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And i just found out it's about James M. Cain!

Number None, Wednesday, 15 April 2009 20:46 (seventeen years ago)

all thoughts are prey to some beast is terrific. i think the record's pretty great; there's a little of him being too authorial (twitching withers and all) but it's really kinda comforting.

corps of discovery (schlump), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 20:50 (seventeen years ago)

Anyone seeing him on his record store tour? I saw him at Sound Garden in Baltimore tonight and it was fantastic. His new songs (and I like the new record a lot) sound even better with just him and a guitar. Fucking potent stuff. And that voice!

buttslam is a pretty good move (circa1916), Friday, 17 April 2009 03:03 (seventeen years ago)

shitty cell phone pic, but yeah, dude's got long hair now:

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c102/OfMarrow/GetAttachmentaspx.jpg

buttslam is a pretty good move (circa1916), Friday, 17 April 2009 03:08 (seventeen years ago)

am gonna be at the other instore after some amount of queueing etc. have never seen him solo so am pumped; there are real nice bootlegs of like conway hall and stuff where he plays a river ain't too much to love stuff solo, sweetly.

corps of discovery (schlump), Friday, 17 April 2009 04:04 (seventeen years ago)

there weren't many people at all at the show i went to, i was kinda surprised. i was looking at some criterion dvd's (not a bad selection Sound Garden!) and Bill walked up onto the stage kinda right down the aisle from me and started setting stuff up. i took a decent standing spot along with like a dozen other people. folks began filing in as he got started and during the set but by the end i'd say there were probably less than 30 people there watching. i was expecting a packed house, the place isn't that big. boo baltimore.

buttslam is a pretty good move (circa1916), Friday, 17 April 2009 05:24 (seventeen years ago)

ok, sorry to keep reviving this thing here, kinda drunk outta my head. listening to the album now again. jesus, these songs sounded so much fucking better and severe and HEAVY with just Bill + Guitar. I kinda wish there were two versions of the album. always bootlegs i guess.

buttslam is a pretty good move (circa1916), Friday, 17 April 2009 09:56 (seventeen years ago)

there are badass bootlegs of the instore tour he did around supper, electric guitar and a tambourine under his foot - playing strayed, blood red bird, etc too. can not wait.

corps of discovery (schlump), Friday, 17 April 2009 13:25 (seventeen years ago)

this album is okay. i'm only really feeling Eid Maw Clack Shaw so far but overall it's certainly an improvement on Woke on A Whaleheart.

jed_, Friday, 17 April 2009 13:31 (seventeen years ago)

i dreamed, it was a dream that you were gone.
i woke up feeling so ripped by reality
yeah, love is the king of the beasts
and when it gets hungry it must kill to eat.
yeah, love is the king of the beasts
a lion walking down city streets.

i fell back asleep some time later on...
and i dreamed the perfect song!
it held all the answers, like hands laid on.

i woke half way and scribbled it down,
and in the morning what i'd wrote i read.
it was hard to read at first but here's what it said:

"EID MA CLACK SHAW
ZUPOVEN DEL BAWM
VERTIPPY VIN SEENER
GO FALLY RAG DOLL."

jed_, Monday, 27 April 2009 00:38 (seventeen years ago)

I love the song after that^ one. The chorus is so warm-sounding.

Also the drums are v much at the front of this album i found.

wilter, Monday, 27 April 2009 01:04 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

I'm kind of in love with the fact that he's got a song called Faith/Void on his new album. A DCHC split I've always loved (well, the one side everyone loves anyway) that I've just now realized is a goddamn perfect pairing of bands/band names and a great goddamn song name.

circa1916, Thursday, 11 June 2009 08:01 (sixteen years ago)

Also loving this album more and more as time goes on.

circa1916, Thursday, 11 June 2009 08:01 (sixteen years ago)

Will stan.

circa1916, Thursday, 11 June 2009 08:01 (sixteen years ago)

just heard it for the first time a couple days back. sounded really, really good.
faith/vod ref is crazy bonus points too.

bear, bear, bear, Thursday, 11 June 2009 08:43 (sixteen years ago)

Who's it referencing? His new album is awesome, but, ironically, I think Faith/Void is the least impressive song on it. My Friend and Eid Ma Clack Shaw are my favourites.

Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 11 June 2009 09:24 (sixteen years ago)

The Faith/Void split on Dischord Records... maybe? Insanely classic DC hardcore

bear, bear, bear, Thursday, 11 June 2009 09:28 (sixteen years ago)

Ah.

Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 11 June 2009 09:36 (sixteen years ago)

Ow, was pretty drunk there but yeah the classic The Faith and Void split on Dischord Records was what I was referring to.

"It's time to put God away." It's gotta be one of my favorites from this new one. I can understand folks not digging on it too much, sucker's almost 10 minutes long and not exactly dynamic, but that resigned mantra is fucking chilling. "This is the end of faith, no more must I strive/To find my peace, to find my peace in the light". The song's kind of rooted itself in my brain and it's a little scary.

circa1916, Thursday, 11 June 2009 18:38 (sixteen years ago)

getting slowly obsessed w/ callahan. 'eid ma clack shaw' worked its way into my itunes most played list pretty quickly.

iatee, Thursday, 11 June 2009 19:12 (sixteen years ago)

is it only me who feels as if callahan's music always sound a bit like a parody on the subject,than the real thing?
(same goes with Oldham as a matter of fact)
i'm not saying this as a negative thing btw.i like his music.

Zeno, Wednesday, 24 June 2009 07:19 (sixteen years ago)

Not sure I'm following you. Parody of what exactly? And how? I've heard Oldham criticized as being "ironic", but I don't really think that's totally fair. I guess a bearded Kentuckian covering Mariah Carey is "ironic", but he never does that sort of stuff in a condescending, winking sort of way. Weird idiosyncratic things like recording the old ragged Palace standards with slick Nashville session musicians seem to stem less from "lol" and more "hey, i like this kind of music too, it would be cool to reinterpret my old songs this way."

I'm rambling about the wrong dude, what's this about Callahan making parodies?

doom shit (circa1916), Wednesday, 24 June 2009 08:07 (sixteen years ago)

maybe irony is a better word to describe it,yes.
what i mean is,that he is obv. influenced by the classic singer/songwriters
but i feel he never sound as serious, or emotionally involved on the music as they were, more like a little wink,a precise and serious gesture to their music,but a gesture still.

Zeno, Wednesday, 24 June 2009 08:25 (sixteen years ago)

I think callahan just approaches songwriting from a very sober, removed sort of place. It's self-aware, yes, and often ironic in that sense ("I am singing a song") but it's in no way unserious.

narly dude lol (Clay), Wednesday, 24 June 2009 08:54 (sixteen years ago)

six months pass...

What was the odd spiky guitar he used up until Dongs (he's playing it on the cover)?

PaulTMA, Sunday, 10 January 2010 19:18 (sixteen years ago)

three months pass...

I Feel like the Mother of the World

^^^^^^^^^best song ever, right?

tart w/ a heart (a hoy hoy), Monday, 19 April 2010 17:29 (sixteen years ago)

past week or so i've gone from feeling like this body of work is 'okayish songwriter dude' to feeling like it is 'essential American genius'

thomp, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 21:21 (sixteen years ago)

like it's only just now that i've paid attention enough to notice that he, like, never uses three chords where two will do - i'm not sure if it's real amateurism or entirely a decision - and i was wondering if that changed, when he went from being 'smog' to being 'bill'

thomp, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 21:26 (sixteen years ago)

past week or so i've gone from feeling like this body of work is 'okayish songwriter dude' to feeling like it is 'essential American genius'

Past two years or so I've gone from feeling like Bill's body of work is "essential American genius" to "okayish songwriter dude" -- exactly the opposite progression.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 22:08 (sixteen years ago)

thotmp

iatee, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 22:10 (sixteen years ago)

"somewhere in the night" will always be a jam

kamerad, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 22:51 (sixteen years ago)

"I Feel like the Mother of the World" is easily my least favourite song on that album.

jed_, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 23:55 (sixteen years ago)

Past two years or so I've gone from feeling like Bill's body of work is "essential American genius" to "okayish songwriter dude" -- exactly the opposite progression.

― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 23:08 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this seems so weird to me. like, the more i get into this dude, the more i love his stuff. in other words, thomp otm

just sayin, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 07:51 (sixteen years ago)

yeah - my estimation of how good he is rises each year. there are few artists whose work every time I revisit it seems better than it did before, but he's one of them for sure. there isn't one release of his, save maybe "whaleheart," that doesn't always yield new treasures when I come back to it.

aerosmith live at the mohegan sun (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 21 April 2010 08:28 (sixteen years ago)

as long as you've previously discovered the hagerty-fried treasure of honeymoon child & day then that's an okay statement

and also yes. his oeuvre is more satisfying than most i think; there are these seemingly arbitrary aesthetic choices he makes for each record which leave listeners with lps neatly suited to different smog moods.

Earning your Masters in Library and Information Science is beautiful (schlump), Wednesday, 21 April 2010 10:17 (sixteen years ago)

always always always classic. listening to him is like being hugged.

peacocks, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 18:10 (sixteen years ago)

O_o

_▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 21 April 2010 18:13 (sixteen years ago)

Like being hugged by a really big mouth.

Brad Nelson (BradNelson), Wednesday, 21 April 2010 18:15 (sixteen years ago)

that's ok with me.

peacocks, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 18:17 (sixteen years ago)

like being hugged, awkwardly, by an autistic stockbroker.

by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 21 April 2010 19:04 (sixteen years ago)

I don't think I would mind that too much either. give me more.

peacocks, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 19:24 (sixteen years ago)

two months pass...

this version of ex-con is stunning. its all velvet undergroundy and great. makes me want to hear him do his back catalog in this style.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrYwWNuR5nw

cajunsunday, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 17:48 (fifteen years ago)

A+

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 18:06 (fifteen years ago)

really great

be told and get high on coconut (gbx), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 18:18 (fifteen years ago)

I remember playing the album version of "Ex-Con" for someone at some point and being asked if it was a Lou Reed song they'd never heard. Now it kind of makes sense.

rope (lloydwabbitt), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 20:38 (fifteen years ago)

when is this from?

iago g., Wednesday, 14 July 2010 20:52 (fifteen years ago)

sorry, got it. 2001.

iago g., Wednesday, 14 July 2010 21:00 (fifteen years ago)

That is great, and I'd forgotten the lyrics immediately before VU fuzzy meltdown section, so that little 1-2 is killing me right now

atoms breaking heart (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 21:08 (fifteen years ago)

this was a b-side of a single iirc.

_▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 21:39 (fifteen years ago)

Shasta, Jean jacket and tie - such a lie or good look?

jed_, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 22:11 (fifteen years ago)


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