Beyonce in 2016 - 'Formation' and Lemonade

tuomaschneider. but not even

I thought it was p obvious who titchy is now

― cher guevara (lex pretend), Thursday, 28 April 2016 07:41 Bookmark

i don't think this is correct btw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gd06ukX-rU

I thought StillAdvance was Titchy actually.

had hoped we could sync menses without naming names

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2dXNnv1rmk

Anyway it strikes me that Beyonce is possibly the only globally successful pop singer who truly appreciates the awesome power of MYSTIQUE, like 17 years or whatever into her career and we still know relatively little about her, which is not something you could fling at Kanye or Taylor Swift or Drake or whoever and expect it to stick. So doing a straight confessional soul-baring record would be a very un-Beyonce thing to do, and the need to preserve that mystique is why I can believe either story here. It's as likely to be a Jay & Beyonce narrative conceit as it is to be a PR-exercise-meets-face saving-retcon.

possibly the only globally successful pop singer who truly appreciates the awesome power of MYSTIQUE

uh

let the people say the hyperbole about the bey

hybeybole

hyperbeyle

beyperbole

hyperbobey

i thought the last album was very soul-baring, like offering us a glimpse at her own process of self-discovery.

some folks like their lemonade with a garnish of bey leaf

oops thought this was the other thread where everyone is talking about beverages sorry

Obviously all the lurking eyerolling lamers come out of the woodwork when you make a claim like that without actually making an argument in response. Also I mean actual A-Listers so don't say 'FKA Twigs' or 'Jute Gyte' or anything.

How quickly we forget Lady Gaga -_-

Lady Gaga doesn't strike me as particularly interested in mystique, not in the way of someone like Beyonce whose public pronouncements seem extremely tightly controlled.

Obviously in the current era of endless trite social media beefs and Twitter arse-fingering then Gaga is positively sphinxlike.

heard a track from Lemonade on v103 it was "sorry, not sorry" and it was kind of cool her voice had this delay pedal sound to it that was very lofi

Just got kinda stonedly blown away by some song on radio and it turned out to be 6 Inch :)

Anyway it strikes me that Beyonce is possibly the only globally successful pop singer who truly appreciates the awesome power of MYSTIQUE, like 17 years or whatever into her career and we still know relatively little about her, which is not something you could fling at Kanye or Taylor Swift or Drake or whoever and expect it to stick. So doing a straight confessional soul-baring record would be a very un-Beyonce thing to do, and the need to preserve that mystique is why I can believe either story here. It's as likely to be a Jay & Beyonce narrative conceit as it is to be a PR-exercise-meets-face saving-retcon.

― Matt DC, Friday, April 29, 2016 8:18 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i like the achievement of this album might be that she gets personal without sacrificing any mystique.

i think the mystique is part of why so many people feel so invested in beyonce. the actual content of the "message" in this album is less important than the fact that she controls it... and not in some wafflish way, but like, she is only going to speak on this affair stuff once and it is going to be in the form of an expensive, elaborate, precisely choreographed visual album.

i kind of like the conclusion, where she takes him back. i don't like jay-z but i think our culture is too saturated with un-nuanced views of infidelity that are like, burn all the cheaters

Obviously all the lurking eyerolling lamers come out of the woodwork when you make a claim like that without actually making an argument in response.

Sorry, I was just astounded that someone could forget about Prince so quickly.

I meant of the current generation, obviously Prince had more mystique in his little finger than most popular stars have in their entire bodies. I think mystique is in general an undervalued currency in *current* pop but his generation really got it.

Actually Prince is pretty much a perfect lesson in how to construct an edifice. No one really knew who he was because the persona he created was so compelling no one really cared. Whereas you know exactly what Kanye West thinks about absolutely everything.

I thought the self-tilted album was the personal album? Sounded pretty personal to me, which is one reason I liked it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tunoFXAZCc4

lol @ everyone calling Daddy Lessons a Beyonce country song. That's some sub-Mumford shit.

is it just me or is 'hold up' just a slowed down pitch shifted 'orinoco flow' sample?

"'love drought' is too rainbow pony princess" is as bad as "'daddy lessons' is some sub-mumford shit"

It is *very* Orinoco Flow but definitely not a sample (different chords for one thing).

http://youtu.be/kO_vKrVxGJM

Also covered by The English Beat and Renegade Soundwave

RE: love drought; it's just a lot of frosting.

"Sorry" has been stuck in my head for days, so that's something.

when I listen to "Sandcastles" this is all I hear

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JI1kq6CA_38

Great show last night. The sound was your typical stadium mishmash -- her vocals were pretty clear, but a lot of the music was just a rumbly mass. Heck of a spectacle, though, and she was fierce throughout. I started imagining that the real beyonce was the 50-foot-tall one on her magic light cube, and the little person onstage just the manifestation of her that our dimension can handle. The setlist was career-spanning. I missed "Single Ladies," but I respect that she's at a point where she doesn't have to play it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v335/gypsyfrocksbedlam/9fb57f55-f18b-41dc-8d1c-aa356c1638ad_zpsybw3kvgo.jpg

My son was suitably astounded, even though he faded toward the end (well past his normal bedtime). He was also jazzed about the opening DJ Khaled set, which brought a ton of people up for single-song cameos: Ludacris, T.I., 2 Chainz, Yo Gotti, Rick Ross, etc.

i'm at the stage of thinking this might possibly be better than the s/t

i'm definitely at the stage of thinking that not only might it not refer directly to beyoncé's marriage, but the point is actually, for the first time in her career, not necessarily her own story

also "all night" works so much better with the visuals!!! i totally got it when i watched the film closely. still think that picking it over anything in the "hold up" thru "daddy lessons" stretch as the highlight is insanity though

also the "formation" instrumental over the credits really drives home what a nutso beat it is, like how did she get hooks and catchiness out of those sounds

i made relatives among multiple generations listen to this last weekend at family dinner. as i was talking about the album, my brother said, "you're just making this record about what you want it to be about." which, yeah: exactly.

fwiw "all night" was the cross-generational fave.

yeah that's precisely why it wasn't my favourite! fuck a cross-generational fave

lol

mine are "hold up" and "freedom." but i'm kinda happy for ppl to like any of these songs.

i'm gonna renege on my earlier negativity toward love drought, it won me over.
this is a good album. still haven't seen the video.

I apparently understated when I said her light cube is 50 feet -- I just read something that said it's 10 stories tall. Big Beyonce.

i like freedom but it sounds like idk a blue jeans ad song to me

also it doesnt touch the self-titled imo

yep

i can confirm that i've probably never felt more powerful ever than when running to "freedom" over the weekend

'love drought' is my fave on this atm, love its ethereal spacy optimism

clearly what i meant by "rainbow pony princess"