Indie Guilt: C/D

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Nate: I was turned to the show by a friend who was a big fan. i was a realy big fan too when it came here but later got turned off by the later horrible writing. Matt Stone and Trey Parker, they can't write worth a shit! 'Thats My Bush' is probably the worst sitcom Evah, which says alot. having said that, i still watch south-park sometimes out of friday midnight boredom.

― rex jr., Tuesday, 25 March 2003 17:57 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah, i think "Underground" is used to describe ideology rather then a gener of sound(VU,Sex Pistols,NWA,Minutemen,Public Enemy). Its totaly different from "Indie" wich is faulsly used to describe a gener of sound.

― rex jr., Tuesday, 25 March 2003 18:16 (twenty-three years ago)

jess this is all your fault

― Dave M. (rotten03), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 19:21 (twenty-three years ago)

i blame hstencil

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 19:23 (twenty-three years ago)

Indie == 60s pop played in an off-key by ex-punkers disguised as either Sonic Youth or ABBA.

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 19:50 (twenty-three years ago)

nine months pass...

haha

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 8 January 2004 08:58 (twenty-two years ago)

I miss this thread. I wish it was started every day.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 8 January 2004 19:36 (twenty-two years ago)

i have indie guilt for the same reasons i have white middle class male guilt.

it's all my parents fault.

― Ian Johnson (orion), Thursday, 8 January 2004 22:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I miss this thread. I wish it was started every day.

You mean it isn't?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 8 January 2004 22:02 (twenty-two years ago)

ah, simpler times.

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 8 January 2004 22:12 (twenty-two years ago)

haha fiddo haha

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 8 January 2004 22:13 (twenty-two years ago)

now that Indie Rock is made with Splenda and Olestra, it's totally guilt-free.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 8 January 2004 22:16 (twenty-two years ago)

indie will come again, the sinners shall be punished, the faithful shall be er....still miserable.

― Moses (Ronan), Thursday, 8 January 2004 22:22 (twenty-two years ago)

sorry gygax, I was not at all sober when I revived this.

...sorry gygax...

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 8 January 2004 22:23 (twenty-two years ago)

This is officially the stupidest ILM thread ever. "Indie guilt"?? WHAT the FUCK???

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Thursday, 8 January 2004 23:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Ha, ethan's Pepsi Guilt accusation still makes me larf

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Friday, 9 January 2004 00:02 (twenty-two years ago)

This thread with the names and dates taken out and auto-summarized to 100 words:

apologetic about liking Indie music...? thread.

apologetic about liking Indie music...? thread.
haha your neighbour is indie!!

I like indie. Of, relating to, or being an indie: an album of indie rock; an indie film company.

cure for indie guilt:
So what's indie, then?

Hair Metal doesn't count= indie Pop

INDIE GUILT

alan = indie
-- indie hiphop. Today's pop is tomorrow's indie. not indie girls though. How indie is that?
WALLOW IN YOUR INDIE-NESS! PERPETRATE INDIE-SENT EXPOSURE!
the dandy warhols are indie?
How indie is that?!?
indie = santa. underground is similar to indie. "Indie guilt"??

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 16 January 2004 02:26 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...

yes.

― mark p (Mark P), Sunday, 27 February 2005 17:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Three years is a long time.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 27 February 2005 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)

yes.

― mark p (Mark P), Sunday, 27 February 2005 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)

"The Golden Age Is When You Were 12*"

― mark s (mark s), Sunday, 27 February 2005 17:43 (twenty-one years ago)

for all intents and purposes, i was 12 in 2002.

― mark p (Mark P), Sunday, 27 February 2005 17:45 (twenty-one years ago)

the fleeting destiny's child/missy elliot affection of last year

This is the part uptop that amuses me the most.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 27 February 2005 17:48 (twenty-one years ago)

the weird thing is ethan really IS in an oingo-boingo covers band now!

― mark s (mark s), Sunday, 27 February 2005 18:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I have no way of telling if you're kidding, Mark, but him living in London can do strange things to a man.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 27 February 2005 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)

This thread should end with a "Where are they now?" sequence.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 27 February 2005 18:33 (twenty-one years ago)

"dom, ned, marks p and s are still posting the indie guilt thread"

― mark s (mark s), Sunday, 27 February 2005 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Woohoo!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 27 February 2005 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey mark s, thanks for linking to I Love Comics without warning us that you were sending us into a different dimension! (You don't expect me to actually read and find out what I'm posting to, do you?)

― RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Sunday, 27 February 2005 19:39 (twenty-one years ago)

oh my lord. three yars ago. i think i was actually drunk the night i was posting.

― nathalie barefoot in the head (stevie nixed), Sunday, 27 February 2005 20:15 (twenty-one years ago)

six months pass...

I'm finally starting to understand this, I think.

Sterling's comment about feeling Palace was his own, private "special" thing that he couldn't share resonated with me, but for me the special thing was jazz. After a brief stint with classic rock, I was a jazz nerd for most of high school - I was a musician, and I was "serious". I also didn't even really know anything about punk or indie - they just weren't on the radar at my school.

Only in college, in my giddy days at the alt weekly, did I realize that post-rock was kinda like jazz and could be my special thing too, and so could old folk and blues records that were too scratchy-sounding for most people to ever like.

But the point is that, holed up in the office on a Friday night, I could happily wallow in my deep lonliness, appreciating what was going on in the new Paul Bley trio disc, seething at the athletic teams and the administration-ass-kissing daily paper, while the drunken whoops of frat brothers echoed in the distance. I certainly couldn't share my late 60s Miles Davis, my Sea and Cake, my Mississippi State Penitentiary songs with a woman, and I couldn't share much of anything else with a woman either.

Out in the world and away from college, into drab offices and co-habited apartments, we are ashamed of our private, special things. We want, understandably, to experience shared humanity, hence the oft-cited point that indie records don't sell and "nobody" listens to them (and you indie fuxors even think of yourselves as nobodies).

― Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 04:13 (twenty years ago)

six months pass...

</wigga>!!!

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 10 April 2006 15:55 (twenty years ago)

i'm just happy i finally know the tag to end wigga, my future posts will be much 'improved'

-- ethan (ethan...), May 29th, 2002.

lol

― ++++++, Monday, 10 April 2006 16:02 (twenty years ago)

back-back-back in the day.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 10 April 2006 16:12 (twenty years ago)

eleven months pass...

I'm shocked to see that the points I was making FIVE years ago, I was making last week in another place. I need to get some new ideas... And maybe finally get rid of my ind1e-gu1lt. ;-)

― byebyepride, Thursday, 5 April 2007 10:08 (nineteen years ago)

It was downhill ever since. Slip sliding away.

― nathalie, Thursday, 5 April 2007 10:34 (nineteen years ago)

I thought we did pretty well getting rid of it the other night! You said you liked the House of Love's version of Pink Frost better IIRC! (x-post).

― Keith, Thursday, 5 April 2007 10:36 (nineteen years ago)

I do! But which is indier?

Also: are you on holiday today? How did the flooring go?

― byebyepride, Thursday, 5 April 2007 11:19 (nineteen years ago)

I certainly couldn't share my late 60s Miles Davis, my Sea and Cake, my Mississippi State Penitentiary songs with a woman, and I couldn't share much of anything else with a woman either.

but now you're married!

also, gygax RIP.
also, best thread ever.

― ian, Thursday, 5 April 2007 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

steve shasta lives

― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 5 April 2007 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

what's indie?

― Surmounter, Thursday, 5 April 2007 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

rock

― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 5 April 2007 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

I don't wear indie clothes but I listen to indie? Does that make me fake? :P

― wesley useche, Thursday, 5 April 2007 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

also, best thread ever.

otm

― artdamages, Thursday, 5 April 2007 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

young mc taught jess to love music you fool

-- ethan, Tuesday, May 28, 2002

tears, almost five years later

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 5 April 2007 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...

http://myspace.com/guiltbyassociation

― jermainetwo, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 11:58 (nineteen years ago)

there'll be fighting on the groves of jacaranda tonite

― 600, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 11:59 (nineteen years ago)

There have never been any indie boybands with guitar (Oh, OK, I'll give you Menswe@r then)

― Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 12:28 (nineteen years ago)

blur

― 600, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 12:29 (nineteen years ago)

shed seven

― 600, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 12:29 (nineteen years ago)

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