Kitchens Of Distinction -- S&D//POO/C or D?

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There was a over wrough novel by Elizabeth Smart called By Grand Central Station I Sat Down and Wept, very intense and hyper emotional. It's kind of interesting but also kind of embarassing. I think it was a Morrisey fave as well.
I'm also curious about the new Tracey Thorn.

Angsty, Thursday, 29 March 2007 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

Right, that's the one. Funny that I've only seen British people making the reference -- I suppose because it's about the (English) George Barker? It'd seem to have some referential currency there that it just does here (hahaha possibly on the grounds that we IGNORE ALL CANADIANS).

nabisco, Thursday, 29 March 2007 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

Not much love for this great band, huh? Their final album. _Cowboy & Aliens_, was almost as good as _Death Of Cool_. You could probably create a much better best-of from post-KoD than post-Chameleons. And I lurv the Chameleons.

Mr. Odd, Thursday, 29 March 2007 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

I was a bit divided on Cowboys & Aliens when I first heard it. I thought half was brilliant and half pretty bad. I think it had a lot to do with the production. I'm going to give it another listen when I go home tonight and this time I'll not skip the tracks I think I don't like.
I guess the lack of love must be in large part down to the whole "gay thing," because they really were pretty commercial in a way. Which is really depressing.

Angsty, Thursday, 29 March 2007 21:28 (nineteen years ago)

Great, GREAT band. My g/f has been revising for exams recently so she just randomly pulls CDs off the shelves for background music, including Cowboys & Aliens at the weekend. I got back in from an errand and she proclaimed it "very good", high praise indeed. Capsule has kept popping up on my mp3 player recently too, reminding me of how spectacular Mad As Snow is too. Shame they didn't put the "proper" version of Elephantine on it though...

Very interesting little article about Patrick's return to medicine below, I don't think it's been linked to from ILM before, but probably one for fans only...

From Music To Medicine

Bill A, Friday, 30 March 2007 11:32 (nineteen years ago)

weird that this got bumped; I just bought the two-CD best-of thing last week. no prior exposure to these guys, and I haven't really given it an in-depth listen, but so far I am really liking what I've heard (which basically amounts to "The Third Time We Opened The Capsule" 50 times on repeat).

bernard snowy, Friday, 30 March 2007 13:01 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, thanks for that article link, Bill -- it's great to hear he is doing well.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 30 March 2007 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

He seems to keep himself quite busy!
The Stephen Hero site has the whole Fruit album for download, it isn't half bad. It's no KoD mind you but still, he has charm in abundance.

Angsty, Friday, 30 March 2007 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

vast rofflage at the spinal tap pic!

i'm almost tempted to e-mail him, but that would be very sad. i shall settle for saying that i loved this band like i have loved perhaps no other, and although i don't listen to them that much any more, it's only because i don't think i could bear the avalanche of long-forgotten (and in many cases deeply embarrassing) emotion it might unleash :)

i have the fruit album somewhere. "fucking relationship" was a big favourite of mine and byebyepride's circa 1996. or was it 1997? i forget.

grimly fiendish, Friday, 30 March 2007 22:13 (nineteen years ago)

vast rofflage at the spinal tap pic!


Seconded! And yeah, revisiting them can be a hard experience on the psyche...

Ned Raggett, Friday, 30 March 2007 23:14 (nineteen years ago)

four weeks pass...
Been listening to Death Of Cool quasi non-stop for the past few months (thanks, thread!) and just yesterday, I've stumbled upon second-hand copies of Cowboys & Aliens and Love Is Hell. So excited, I don't even know which one to start with.

alex in montreal, Sunday, 29 April 2007 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

yeah i got a bunch of this stuff on vinyl now, bu thaven't had to to reevaluate yet.

artdamages, Sunday, 29 April 2007 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

four months pass...

Patrick's new Stephen Hero album it out, if anyone is still listening. His voice is still great and Julian guests on one track - what a tease!

Mr. Odd, Monday, 17 September 2007 01:56 (eighteen years ago)

I've had everything but Love Is Hell for quite a while, and love it all pretty equally. Very consistent band. Still can't seem to track down that first record, though, and I've been looking for years...

stephen, Monday, 17 September 2007 15:18 (eighteen years ago)

So you're saying you need a CDR burn, then.

(Nothing's turned up on Amazon? Odd, it did get a nice rerelease on A&M over here.)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 17 September 2007 15:21 (eighteen years ago)

I don't do a lot of online shopping, too impersonal. Maybe it's time to check Amazon/eBay for this one though.

stephen, Monday, 17 September 2007 15:24 (eighteen years ago)

ah yes, Amazon is loaded. i may have to look into that.

stephen, Monday, 17 September 2007 15:27 (eighteen years ago)

Just placed an order for the 2CD version of Capsule, very excited. Are there any key tracks on the b-sides/live/acoustic/etc. disc that I ought to pay extra-special attention to?

stephen, Friday, 21 September 2007 21:19 (eighteen years ago)

Post a tracklisting for that again. There are indeed some spectacular ones.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 21 September 2007 21:21 (eighteen years ago)

Full tracklisting at http://wc10.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:3zfixq8aldhe

Andy K sez:

The first 2500 copies of the set came with a second disc of B-sides and radio-session versions, several of which wouldn't be undeserving of first-disc placement -- see the alternately dreary and blissful storms of "Glittery Dust," and the anti-Thatcher "Margaret's Injection," in particular, along with the 12" (albeit inferior) version of "4 Men."

stephen, Friday, 21 September 2007 21:53 (eighteen years ago)

Yes to all that.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 21 September 2007 21:54 (eighteen years ago)

I heard a track on the radio and thought it was Patrick from KOD back and not very good.

It turned out to be "An End Is A Start" by Editors.

Alba, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 20:06 (eighteen years ago)

Roffles

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 20:10 (eighteen years ago)

"Prize" is beautiful.

roxymuzak, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 01:18 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

Indeed it is.

"Do I get a prize..."

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 19:26 (seventeen years ago)

Was just listening to the demo version earlier today; because the 3rd time ep was my introduction to them I think I actually even prefer it to the album one.

Bill A, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 19:34 (seventeen years ago)

Hahah, I was listening to the demo yesterday. Mindmeld etc.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 19:38 (seventeen years ago)

Prize was the first song of theirs I heard and it was so good it sort of ruined the rest of their stuff for me.

Enemy Insects (NickB), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 19:40 (seventeen years ago)

Doubtless the KoD fans here have already picked up on the surprising amount of live footage that's on youtube, but may as well link just in case. I like to think it's a measure of the love for them that still exists that people lugged video cameras to gigs back in the '90s and are now uploading that footage years later. I went to this show in Brum, so it's extra weird to find it again, and although you can't see much you can *hear* everything:

Bill A, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 19:55 (seventeen years ago)

nine months pass...

And then there were the Toilets of Destruction:

http://www.dailymotion.com/playlist/xxnh0_RileyELFuk_toilets-of-destruction-12oct-91

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 22:22 (sixteen years ago)

The Ride cover/parody = roffles.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 22:43 (sixteen years ago)

There's a funny version of 'Prize' there too. WHat was this gig all about then?

We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 22:54 (sixteen years ago)

They did random shows in this vein under the Toilets of Destruction name in London every so often -- I remember hearing about them at the time. What's nice is hearing how clearly they all become Kitchens songs thanks to the tone of Julian's guitars in particular!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 22:58 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah, very true, and there's always that voice too. I'd normally hate "wacky" stuff like this, but those are pretty endearing clips.

We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 23:12 (sixteen years ago)

That cover of "Heroes" is great - as you say, Ned, it's unmistakeably Kitchens once Swales gets his guitar all over it.

Bill A, Thursday, 28 January 2010 11:38 (sixteen years ago)

six months pass...

So I knew absolutely nothing about these guys, had only heard the name a couple times before and, for some reason, had a vague notion that they were most post-punk than shoegaze. Anyway, happened across a $1.99 copy of The Death of Cool and, remembering it being on Ned's 90s list, grabbed it without another thought. OH MY GOD. Fantastic discovery, must find more.

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Saturday, 7 August 2010 05:36 (fifteen years ago)

They kind of are more postpunk etc but it's in how you define it. And glad you liked it!

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 7 August 2010 05:45 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah I can see the influence, but in my mind I was picturing something closer to Josef K (I have no idea where this came from!).

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Saturday, 7 August 2010 05:53 (fifteen years ago)

Another great gig from '92, rare *daytime* footage on this occasion. Wish they could have played Manchester's Piccadilly Gardens in such a manner...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYOkZZMy-Eg&feature=channel

Bill A, Friday, 13 August 2010 13:22 (fifteen years ago)

remembering it being on Ned's 90s list, grabbed it without another thought. OH MY GOD. Fantastic discovery, must find more.

This seriously happened to me at least a dozen times from 2005-2007 era.

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Friday, 13 August 2010 13:29 (fifteen years ago)

Ha, well, glad to help!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 August 2010 14:20 (fifteen years ago)

Wow that live clip sounds even better than the record!

daavid, Friday, 13 August 2010 17:36 (fifteen years ago)

I had the same Ned's 90s experiences between about 2000 & 2002.

Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 14 August 2010 06:53 (fifteen years ago)

Tempted to start a "best album from Ned's 136 that I don't already have & love" poll...

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Saturday, 14 August 2010 17:43 (fifteen years ago)

listening to the shimmer in the outro of 'blue pedal' just now, it's like a second sun. i only saw them live twice. i still remember the first show most with kingmaker and bleach and they played shiver, mad as the snow and polaroids consecutively and it was the most beautiful thing ever. what an amazing band.

keythhtyek, Sunday, 15 August 2010 16:14 (fifteen years ago)

"Strange Free World" is just utterly epic - I played it driving home from a music festival and I was pushing 90 before I knew it. "Drive That Fast" indeed!

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 16 August 2010 00:44 (fifteen years ago)

four months pass...

my wife refers to this excellent band as "kitchens of destruction"

ilxor this could be a standout thread for you imo (ilxor), Thursday, 13 January 2011 04:21 (fifteen years ago)

Well there's Toilets of Destruction and all.

And...I happen to be wearing my Strange Free World shirt this very minute.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 13 January 2011 04:40 (fifteen years ago)

a/s/l?

ilxor this could be a standout thread for you imo (ilxor), Thursday, 13 January 2011 05:44 (fifteen years ago)

tell me what else u are wearing ;)

ilxor this could be a standout thread for you imo (ilxor), Thursday, 13 January 2011 05:44 (fifteen years ago)


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