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Garth was great, gigantic. Just obviously not as great and gigantic as he thinks he was. My favorite albums by him are probably The Chase, No Fences, Scarecrow, and Fresh Horses, more or less in that order, though yeah, Hits is the one I put on, and is obviously the place to start with the guy.

Just played Alan's Like Red On A Rose again this morning, first time I've put it on since I bumped it from by Nashville Scene ballot. Which was stupid -- if I had to do it over again, I'd have bumped the Mandrell compilation instead, and Alan probably would have more in the running for my Jackin' Pop as well. It really is a beautiful record. Jazz album of the year, easy! But one thing I figured out is that it sort of blands out in its second half, after the first six tracks or so. My bumping probably over-emphasized that.

I'd say the weakest album of Montgomery Gentry's career was their debut album, and probably rank Some People Change second or third best. Either way, there's been no more consistent musical act this decade, in any genre. I'm not even sure who would come close.

xhuxk (xheddy), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 12:18 (nineteen years ago)

(Oddly, though, I don't think I've ever actually heard Garth's first album, and I retardedly didn't pay $1.60 or $2.40 or whatever it was for the copy I saw at Half-Price Books in Houston two weeks ago, opting perversably for Little Texas and Rick Trevino instead! Thing is, isn't that first album supposed to be a lot more generic, sort of a George Strait wannabe neo-trad just-another-random-hat-act type thing, from before Garth truly defined himself as Garth? Not sure why I think that -- and not sure why I think that would likely make it subpar -- but it's long been my probably misinformed impression.)

xhuxk (xheddy), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 12:22 (nineteen years ago)

And Greg, who are Texas Lightning? I've never heard of them...

xhuxk (xheddy), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 12:35 (nineteen years ago)

Jazz album of the year, easy!

Well, not counting Toby Keith's jazz album, if that counts. But better than Kenny Garrett, Ben Riley's Monk Legacy Septet, or David Ware (all of which I found extremely listenable regardless) for sure.

In other news, Don Allred forwarded me this yesterday. Interesting!!

Club Connection Announces Top Ten Country Dance Hits Of 2006

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (January 8, 2006) -- For the third year, Marco Promotion's Club Connection surveyed over 200 country nightclubs and dance instructors nationwide to determine the most played and most requested dance titles of the past 12 months.

Steve Holy blasted into 2006 with this year's number one club track, "Brand New Girlfriend." The single, which also earned Holy his second #1 radio hit, was released in February with a remix sent exclusively to clubs and dance instructors in November.

Trace Adkins dominates this year's top ten by earning the number two and number six spots with "Swing" and current radio single "Ladies Love Country Boys" respectively. Both tracks are on his 2006 Album Dangerous Man.

The number three spot belongs to Rodney Atkins and his breakout single "If You're Going Through Hell," the title track from his sophomore album on Curb Records.

CMA Award Winners Rascal Flatts capture the number four spot for their Jeffery Steele, Tony Mullins, Jon Stone penned "Me And My Gang." Brad Paisley rounds out the top 5 with "The World."

Toby Keith made his third straight appearance on the top ten with his single "Get Drunk And Be Somebody," charting at number seven.

Country newcomers closed out the 2006 top ten. Pittsburgh, PA natives the Povertyneck Hillbillies chart at number eight with their debut single "Mr. Right Now." The number nine spot belongs to Curb Recording artist Tyler Dean with "Built For Blue Jeans," a track that was released exclusively to clubs and dance instructors. Completing this year's list is Eric Church's "Two Pink Lines," the second single from his debut album Sinners Like Me.

2005's number one dance hit, Trace Adkins' "Honkytonk Badonkadonk," continued its' momentum into 2006 earning the highest re-current rotation. Bomshel's "Bomshel Stomp," which earned the duo the number six spot in 2005, took the number two re-current position. Big and Rich's club mainstay "Save A Horse, Ride A Cowboy," a single that topped the 2004 club hits list and appeared as 2005's number one re-current, earned the third highest re-current rotation in 2006.

Club Connection's Top Ten Dance Hits Of 2006 are:
1. Steve Holy "Brand New Girlfriend"
2. Trace Adkins "Swing"
3. Rodney Atkins "If You're Going Through Hell"
4. Rascal Flatts "Me And My Gang"
5. Brad Paisley "The World"
6. Trace Adkins "Ladies Love Country Boys"
7. Toby Keith "Get Drunk And Be Somebody"
8. PovertyNeck Hillbillies "Mr. Right Now"
9. Tyler Dean "Built For Blue Jeans"
10. Eric Church "Two Pink Lines"

Marco Promotion's Club Connection is a division of Nashville-based publicity and promotions company, AristoMedia Group. Capitalizing on the resurgent popularity of country dance clubs, Club Connection provides services that allow artists to impact larger audiences and increase product awareness. Club Connection has created successful promotion packages for artists including Trace Adkins, Dierks Bentley, Big & Rich, Montgomery Gentry, Toby Keith and Bomshel. For more information about Marco Promotions' Club Connection, please visit www.marcopromo.com or www.marcoclubconnection.com.


xhuxk (xheddy), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 12:44 (nineteen years ago)

And oh yeah, I really wound up liking that 1988 nine-song Ronnie Milsap Greatest Hits record I bought. The guy is just totally a master of understated, sparely orchestrated, slightly soul-inflected sadness and beauty of the type that Alan and Toby seem so enamored of these days. Most of the songs don't blow me away, though "Smoky Mountain Rain" does: toally sounds like its title feels; words (song credited to Kye Fleming/Dennis W Morgan) about heading back to Nashville from LA and stopping at a phonebooth to tell her you're coming home, but she's not there -- I'm not sure if Milsap had the biggest hit with it or not. Second favorite maybe "Back On My Mind Again," with words about how Daytona's nice this time of year set to a melody seemingly partially lifted from the Beatles's wretched (I always thought, though maybe I was wrong?) "Octopus's Garden" (as was one of the melodies on one of my least favorite songs on the good mid-'90s Elevator Drops album I also bought cut-rate in Houston two weeks ago). "It Was Almost Like A Song" has a great ballad upswing to it. "Pure Love" written by Eddie Rabbit mentions Captain Crunch. "Daydreams About Night Things" may not be betta than Loretta (as I said above) but is still a great song, and in Ronnie's version he's watching the clock at his factory job where in Loretta's she's watching it at home. And I'm pretty sure Ronnie sings "Please Don't Tell Me How The Story Ends" better than Kris Kristofferson, who wrote it, could. So: worth the $1.80! (And it all lasts just 28:05, so it's easy in more ways than one.)

xhuxk (xheddy), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 13:10 (nineteen years ago)

Texas Lightning are just an odd little band who somehow ended up being Germany's entry into Eurovision this year. They are a German band, with an Australian lead singer. Their first album Meanwhile, Back at the Ranch is mostly a silly little effort, consisting mostly of country covers of non-country tunes (such as "Like a Virgin" and "Kiss" and "Bad Case of Loving You") and a few covers of traditional country cuts by Patsy Cline and Tex Williams. Completely disposable, the country version of a Me First and the Gimme Gimmes album, and just as bad. But sitting in there is one original song, "No No Never", which is in a lot of ways just a europop song dressed up as country, but which is really pretty. I love the melody and the singer's voice. They released another single last year, another original titled "I Promise" but it wasn't too good.

Greg Fanoe (JustFanoe), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

isn't that first album supposed to be a lot more generic, sort of a George Strait wannabe neo-trad just-another-random-hat-act type thing, from before Garth truly defined himself as Garth?

That's overstating things a bit, and I think the defining Garth-as-Garth has as much to do with his mega-image and arena shows, which he obviously couldn't do behind a debut. But "The Dance" is one of his biggest and most Garth songs; "Tomorrow Never Comes" and "Alabama Clay" are good too. He's always been an under-rated singer.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

RE: Garth: I agree, The Hits is great, but don't forget Double Live, either - that's the one release where you can really get what made Garth, Garth: not just the songs but the personality, the larger-than-lifeness, the interplay with the crowd. (Plus it makes for a decent best-of as well; Garth really, really needs a good 2-disc comp.)

Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

ronnie milsap is kind of more charlie rich than anyone else working in mainstream. his last record was pretty fine, too.

garth, hmm, the first one, '90, w/ "friends in low places," i always liked because it was a bit more relaxed, pre-mega-success. i guess i think "in pieces" is the best of all of them except the first greatest hits package. one of those guys i wish i could divorce the music from that silly-ass way he always cavorted around on stage and so forth. definitely some kind of genius of assimilationist nashville, oklahoma. give me john anderson any day, though, or even keith whitley.

jackson "jazz album of the year," eh? that's the rub, and what a lot of reviewers just seem to have missed. i was talking about charlie rich, and certainly jackson has affinities. rich always gave you a piece of himself, vocally, though, and jackson remains a bit of a cipher, but i guess i say the less "personality" in jazz-pop these days, perhaps the better. a really over-the-top singer might've ruined "like red."

xps

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

Frank, I don't know if someone else already pointed this out to you, but there's a search feature on the main page of the Idolator poll that lets you see who all voted for what.

Here's my Scene stuff:

TOP TEN COUNTRY ALBUMS OF 2006:

1. Alan Jackson – Like Red on a Rose
2. Jenny Lewis with the Watson Twins – Rabbit Fur Coat
3. Julie Roberts – Men and Mascara
4. The Wreckers – Stand Still, Look Pretty
5. Blaine Larsen – Rockin’ You Tonight
6. Rosanne Cash – Black Cadillac
7. Dixie Chicks – Taking the Long Way
8. Vince Gill – These Days
9. Toby Keith – White Trash with Money
10. Keith Urban – Love, Pain & the Whole Crazy Thing

TOP TEN COUNTRY SINGLES OF 2006:

1. Faith Hill – “Stealing Kisses”
2. Sara Evans – “Cheatin’”
3. Carrie Underwood – “Before He Cheats”
4. Kenny Chesney – “Summertime”
5. The Wreckers – “Leave the Pieces”
6. Blaine Larsen – “I Don’t Know What She Said”
7. Toby Keith – “Get Drunk and Be Somebody”
8. Billy Currington – “Must Be Doin’ Somethin’ Right”
9. Dixie Chicks – “Not Ready to Make Nice”
10. Julie Roberts – “Men and Mascara”

COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST MALE VOCALISTS OF 2006:

1. Alan Jackson
2. Toby Keith
3. Vince Gill

COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST FEMALE VOCALISTS OF 2006:

1. Julie Roberts
2. Neko Case
3. Carrie Underwood

COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST LIVE ACTS OF 2006:

1. Tim McGraw/Faith Hill
2. Dierks Bentley
3. Kenny Chesney

COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST SONGWRITERS OF 2006:

1. Lori McKenna
2. Arlis Albritton
3. Robert Lee Castleman

COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST DUOS, TRIOS OR GROUPS OF 2006:

1. The Wreckers
2. Dixie Chicks
3. Deadstring Bros.

COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST NEW ACTS OF 2006:

1. The Wreckers
2. Blaine Larsen
3. Jamey Johnson

COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST OVERALL ACTS OF 2006:

1. Alan Jackson
2. Julie Roberts
3. Rosanne Cash

Josh Love (screamapillar), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

Josh, I thought "Bible Song" was your favorite Sara Evans cut. Maybe it wasn't a single, I dunno.

I'm sure you guys probably talked about this last year, but thoughts on "Brand New Girlfriend"? I think it's great: I love the unabashed heart-on-his-sleeve giddiness, but I can also see someone could find it annoying. None of you voted for it. A little surprised that Frank was the only one who voted for Taylor Swift's "Tim McGraw," too. Not surprised at all that we all seem to agree on the excellence of "Before He Cheats."

I'd like to hear more country this year. I didn't really hear anything until late 2005, and even last year I probably only heard about a dozen or so songs, not including the Dixie Chicks record, which I thought was just okay.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, I saw a video for "Cheatin'" in '06 so I counted it - I definitely like "Bible Song" more but I never came across anything about it being a single or video (though granted I don't watch a whole lot of CMT and rarely listen to country radio).

Josh Love (screamapillar), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

The singles from Sara Evans are "Real Fine Place to Start" (definitely 05) and "Cheatin" (arguable 06 eligibility, but I count it in 05), then in '06 we had "Coalmine" and "You'll Always Be My Baby". A rather uninspired slate of selections, especially "You'll Always Be My Baby" which is I think my least favorite song on the entire album.

Greg Fanoe (JustFanoe), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, "real fine" is the best single to come off sara's record. i don't think the record is as strong as her previous collection, myself.

"bible song" is kinda brilliant, though.

so I gotta give a listen to Jason Michael Carroll's "Waitin' in the Country" promo. anyone heard it yet? beyond "Alyssa Lies"? he does a duet with our new Star, Jewel...

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

Xposted to my blog.

5 Country Albums I liked in 2006, in no particular order:

1. Neko Case - Fox Confessor Brings the Flood
2. Alan Jackson - Like Red On a Rose
3. Rosanne Cash - Black Cadillac
4. Hannah Montana - Hannah Montana Soundtrack
5. Dixie Chicks - Taking the Long Way Around

Five in one year means it's a pretty good year for me for country music. Most years have one country permanent addition to my iPod, if any at all. Unclear if Hannah Montana will be a permanent fixture (though 'Best of Both Worlds' will likely be) or Rosanna Cash, though her album strikes me as beautiful at the moment. The other 3 are no doubt permanent additions.

Amazing moments from these five albums:
1. "John couldn't read it (John couldn't read it) / Get on repeat it / John couldn't read it / Holy, Holy to the Lord" - can you hear Johnny B. Goode?
2. "at the end of the road is another town where the people want to hear a man who sings the blues."
3. "it was a black cadillac that drove you away -- one of us gets to go to heaven, one has to stay in hell" -- can you hear this and not think of joni's yellow taxi?
4. "Living two lives is... a - little weerd!"
5. " And how in the world / Can the words that I said / Send somebody so over the edge / That they'd write me a letter / Saying that I better shut up and sing / Or my life will be over."

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Actually, Frank gave me a reason why Hannah Montana isn't country, but I wonder if anyone can give me some reasons why she is? Or could be? I'm curious, outside of the television show (in which she's called a hillbilly regularly), why I'd think there was something countryish about her.

Mordechai Shinefield (Mordy), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 21:04 (nineteen years ago)

don't know the hannah montana...
jason michael carroll's "waitin' in the country." this record has two songs that rhyme "steeple" and "people." the title song is about escaping to the outer exurbs; the second one uses a modal lick from folk-rock, the one that country often uses, big-ass ninth/seventh guitar lick, to begin the song, and it's also about going wild within a 100-mile radius from a base in the country. "as long as I can beat the train/and they got a passing lane" sums it up nicely. the one that I guess is something of a hit now, "alyssa lies," well, what happens when the girl is not a grown girl but a kid, and *your* kid comes home from school crying because alyssa is lying...not about stealing or cheating, but about "every bruise." and what rhymes with lie that alyssa does, since no one will do anything about anything, including the guy singing the song?

the one with jewel is totally bleh--"no good in goodbye." the best one is maybe "honky tonk friends," about a guy who hangs out with his suburban neighbors and his co-workers and even with his Godly Friends (steeple-people), but who only really loves his h.t. friends.

he gets that macho astringent deep baritone slide up to nasality quite well, and the title track, and especially "sleep when i'm dead" rock pretty good--the latter is, like, about 4 songs all jammed into one, with some amazing twists and turns and that great guitar lick. "anywhere u.s.a" was already done by jason aldean and many others--some of this is big & rich, too, he almost raps, it's a typically wordy nashville country album. not bad!

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 00:38 (nineteen years ago)

there's been no more consistent musical act this decade, in any genre. I'm not even sure who would come close.

Come to think of it, Toby Keith comes close. (And I haven't even heard his early albums, so it's possible he even surpasses MG.) And Craig Finn might come close if you count Lifter Puller stuff I guess. Who else?? Pink has four CDs on my shelf, but I can't say I love any of them. Field Mob have three; third one not great. Um...
Actually, the Dixie Chicks would be up in top five or so, probably. (Oh wait...Lil Wayne! Trick Daddy! Brooks & Dunn, though I only even know three '00s albums by them -- guess I need to research backwards from Steers and Queers. Gore Gore Girls, though they only have two albums and an EP. Eminem's off the list by now... and I might be starting to lose track of Lil Wayne and Trick Daddy.)

I need to give Jason Michael Carrol another shot (and had planned to; was just procrastinating.) I'd taken him for something of a wuss on first listen. (Not that being a wuss is necessarily always bad.)

xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 02:25 (nineteen years ago)

His album seemed less wussy this morning. But I still wasn't playing super-close attention. Yet.

xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 12:00 (nineteen years ago)

"I Can Sleep When I'm Dead" (howdy Warren Zevon!) = DEFINITELY not wussy. I'm really liking "Honky Tonky Friends," too. And the Jewel duet isn't bad. Still on the fence about "Alyssa Lies," though.

xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

More like howdy Bon Jovi!

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

I'll post that country ballot on freelancementalists, eventually, with even more comments; rat now I don't want to drop anything on top of "Dancestand Internationale (2006!"(check it out yall). Can't access Idolator's Jackin Pop section, except for Matos' essay, and that's on three dif computers at two dif locales, and my friend the research librarian at Cornell can't get any further, even on her various kickass machines. Oh well, I'll keep checking, but Daddino's threads have imported some goodies. Meanwhile, here's the Seger bit, although I got hung up on "Persecution Smith" etc. and not as much about new album (and the amazing Greatest Hits 2, which I described in the thing for Anthony's Lefthip round, hopefully making his deadline). But the new(ish) album, Face The Promise, is more good than bad, and he's got rockin Nashville Cats like J.T. Corenflos and Steve Nathan, and the inevitable Kid Rock duet is fun too. More later on freelancementalists, but this is the gist of it: http://charlotte.creativeloafing.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A117085

don (dow), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

Chris Willman just forwarded this to me. It's the line-up for Coachella Festival in So. California.

Saturday, May 5, 2007: George Strait, Alan Jackson, Sara Evans, Jason Aldean, Eric Church, Willie Nelson, Lucinda Williams, Neko Case, Robert Earl Keen, Richie Furay, Chris Hillman & Herb Pederson, David Serby, Earl Scruggs, Nickel Creek, Yonder Mountain String Band, The Grascals, The John Cowan Band, Ramblin’ Jack Elliot, Riders in the Sky, Red Steagall, Waddie Mitchell, Sons of the San Joaquin, Cowboy Nation.

Sunday, May 6, 2007: Kenny Chesney, Brooks & Dunn, Sugarland, Gary Allan, Pat Green, Emmylou Harris, Kris Kristofferson, Raul Malo, Junior Brown, Drive by Truckers, Alejandro Escovedo, Railbenders, Ricky Skaggs, Doyle Lawson and Quicksilver, Marty Stuart, The Del McCoury Band, Abigail Washburn with the Sparrow Quartet featuring Ben Sollee, Sasey Driessen and Bela Fleck, The Flatlanders (Jimmie Dale Gilmore, Joe Ely, Butch Hancock), Garrison Keillor, Baxter Black, Cowboy Celtic, Don Edwards, and Katy Moffat.

Whoah.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 23:28 (nineteen years ago)

it's not Coachella, though it's put on by the same company at the same location (one week after Coachella), but Stagecoach

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 23:29 (nineteen years ago)

Ah OK. Who is sponsoring this thing? The Bank of Switzerland?

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 23:36 (nineteen years ago)

No one's "sponsoring" it, far as I can tell. More details here.

Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Thursday, 11 January 2007 00:09 (nineteen years ago)

Um, surely someone is: http://www.coachella.com:81/sponsors/

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 11 January 2007 00:17 (nineteen years ago)

My bad.

Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Thursday, 11 January 2007 00:22 (nineteen years ago)

that's gonna be like 2 days of 'grand ol opry' style 3 songs and outski stuff

Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 11 January 2007 01:24 (nineteen years ago)

I can't wait for the Garrison Keillor-led super jam at the end.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 11 January 2007 02:08 (nineteen years ago)

I'm liking this Garth Brook's "The Hits" collection but at first couple listens nothing else strikes me as good as "Friends In Low Places" or "Thunder Rolls". I like this album, but am not feeling particularly inspired to go out and by his actual studio albums.

Greg Fanoe (JustFanoe), Thursday, 11 January 2007 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

So Don, have you heard Nancy McCallion's new band?:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/lastcallgirls

The border-jigging sounds pretty good; makes the music more rich than the Nancy solo album I heard last year. But the Mollys worked with a wider emotional range, though, I think. (I.e.--they could be pretty dark.) In all cases, though, I'm realizing that Nancy probably doesn't really have enough vocal presence for me -- She's a competent singer, but kind of dull. It would take a better singer than her for me to decide how good a songwriter she is. But she does seem to surround herself with fairly lively musician friends.

xhuxk (xheddy), Friday, 12 January 2007 12:45 (nineteen years ago)

nothing else strikes me as good as "Friends In Low Places" or "Thunder Rolls".

I'd say "Callin' Baton Rouge," "What She's Doing Now," "Papa Loved Mama," "Two Of A Kind Workin' On A Full House," and maybe "That Summer," and maybe "Ain't Goin' Down (Til The Sun Comes Up)"
(and probably one or two more) come pretty damn close though.

xhuxk (xheddy), Friday, 12 January 2007 12:48 (nineteen years ago)

Pretty lame--"A Different World" first single from Bucky Covington, the 2nd Country artist (after Kellie Pickler) from last season's Amer Idol with a deal. He was more of a Southern Rock guy on the show--singing stuff like "Simple Man"--though he did do a Gary Allen song on Country Night. His voice here sounds like it was run through some program that removes grit & enhances twang. Also it's a nostalgia piece for the 1980s, them good old days of lead paint and hard drinking pregnant women, back when you drank water from a garden hose rather than a bottle, back when Dwayne Wayne glasses were cool (maybe.)

ramon fernandez (ramon fernandez), Saturday, 13 January 2007 01:39 (nineteen years ago)

No xxhuxx, have not heard nor heard of Nancy's new band! Didn't Catherine Zavala's voice, with and without Nancy's, serve Nancy's (and Catherine's) songs pretty well? I miss her so much.Like a young, vital, yet raspystential Marianne Faithful.Apparently she's more involved in the ASU desert groves of academe nowadays (that's a geographical ref only, the groves may well be plush with learnin', for all I know). Occasionally sits in, though, incl with a St. Patricio's Day reunion in 06, or 05, how the years disappear.For anyone who didn't get this email:
Finally saw all of Broken Bridges, but it was better in bits; bet the director's done videos, maybe mostly those. Toby's a good actor though, listens carefully, then little darting quips occasionally, some of which sound improvised. All of which is true to the character, in this case (black sheep, trying to get back into good graces). And true to the aw shucks ma'am discreet black sheep backdoor man asspect of his orig persona. But I'd rather have the soundtrack, if it's got all this stuff. And soundtrack's prob the main worth of this whole project, aside from what it might do for Toby's career.(PS: bit about the listening and quips reminds me that Toby long ago said he wanted to do his own version of "Seinfeld.")

don (dow), Saturday, 13 January 2007 08:08 (nineteen years ago)

frank and i were having a conversation about the two faith hill singles, and how they were or werent country, and i kept feeling bad because i put them on my ns ballot even though i thot they were more cabaret...i was fucking with you tube last night, cause im in TO, at my friends pat and ray--who both mostly listen to modern rock and dance...playing stealing kisses, my love of which is about 1/2 high camp diva worship and 1/2 something else, and i kept saying well this isnt really country, this is her judy garland at carnagie hall moment, and pat said he couldnt understand why i didnt think it ws country (might have been the hair, in both videos, frankly) so, all that worry about it not being country enough was all for moot, if one didnt listen to country.

i also got a best of gene pitney for 6 bucks, which has been the exten t of my record buying this trip, havent listened to it fully, but planning on doing that tomorrow or monday (tonite being the super fancy bday dinner)

(though i did find a copy of carnival strippers, a relvetory, complicated, and proto2ndwavefemminist book of women hardned by love, the road, and male lust--there is a country opus, a hillbillu opera waiting to be written about it, and it made me wonder, what did carnival strippers listen to in 1972, on their circitous way around the country, what did they strip to?)

also outside the country vein, the last episode of studio 60. had the christian singer harriet being offered the role of anita pallenberg in a rolling stone movie, and her joking that tammy wynettr should have been offered, it says alot when tammy is a joke and anita pallenberg is the best role a woman can hope to play.

pinkmoose (jacklove), Saturday, 13 January 2007 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.amazon.com/Carnival-Strippers-Susan-Meiselas/dp/3882439548

pinkmoose (jacklove), Saturday, 13 January 2007 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

recent stuff sort of on the borderline of country maybe:

over the rhine -- matt cibula who loves them probably thinks i'm always trying hard not to like these americanists, but actually just the opposite is true. of course i want to like them: they come from cincinnatti or someplace like that and their name refers to germany i suppose and i've been obsessed with the german cincannatti thing ever since i saw a book that i assume was a history of the city when i was a kid called was du ever im zizinnatti or something like that (richard riegel, please to come here and correct my spelling). thing is, over the rhine have never grabbed me, not once, not even for a song. i kind of figured that their new best-of CD would play down their amorphousness, but sadly no such luck dudes.

royal trux - interesting. i have a prejudice against these people in part because they're one of those bands (like disco inferno -- who may or may not actually exist in real life -- and gary numan) who seemingly have an extremely rabid and obsessed and deluded cult of people i can't otherwise identify on ILM who think they're the greatest artists in the universe, which may or may not be amusing but is definitely way beyond ridiculous. the one album i got all the way through by them before struck me as a shitty version of black crowes, more or less. (it was one of their mid/late '90s "sellout" albums i guess; i think i tried listening to one of their early noisier records once and it seemed completely forgettable even as background sound, at least at the time. i'm willing to concede i may have underrated both of those records though.) anyway, the new one western extermintator has some okay blues guitar jam parts (in "rat will kill") and one song that sounds like hanoi rocks drowning in your bathtub ("balls to pass") and an opening dark gypsy waltz that you might like more than me if you like tom waits or nick cave more than me. so...some of it, at least, is not bad. but mostly the music tends to muffle and distance itself into lifelessness.

cloud cult -- as country as modest mouse if not ugly casanova, which means, well, a little bit country at least. i like this! at least so far! i just don't know how much! they are an indie band from minnesota and have actual songs with words that seem to make sense, and hooks and a good singer and decent beat, but mostly melodies melodies melodies. and there's intersting things going on musically in a modest mouse type way; one of these days i'll pinpoint why i kinda like those guys. so far "the girl underground" is my favorite song, then "2x2x2" and "alien christ," but i have only just begun.

the mooney suzuki - i liked their previous record, the mainstream hard rock one where they finally came to terms with their inner eddie money for an entire album. new album's lamer, and seemingly a deadhead hippie (= roots, sort of) move overall, though the jokey drug spiel "good ol' alchohol" is a decent commander cody type joke. if i had an ipod i'd probably put it on there and chuck the rest, though i'd be intersted if somebody hears something here i don't.

eddie money - covers of great '60s songs like "expressway to your heart" and "land of a thousand dances" and "good lovin'" and "jenny take a ride" and two by the foundations plus james brown, ray charles, sam & dave, etc. which by now means people who buy country records might end up buying this too. so far seems kind of watered down, but we'll see. better than mooney suzuki's CD probably. a cool photo of eddie at 15 in his garage band the grapes of wrath inside.

xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 13 January 2007 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

actually the cloud cult singer is more a talker than a singer, which undoubtedly helps him a lot. i'd say they're more country than the hold steady (but then so are modest mouse, and ugly casanova, and winfred e. eye if they count.) album title: the meaning of 8.

xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 13 January 2007 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

Also sometimes the Cloud Cult guy's voice swishes around like the guy from Placebo, I'm realizing. (Okay, not very county, I know.)

Water Ostanek ("Canada's Polka King and Three Time Grammy Winner" -- he does the odd numbered selections, which sometimes have slightly more intriguing song titles, likke "Hawaiian Polka" and "My Beautiful Slovenia Waltz") and Gaylord Kancnik ("Michigan Polka Hall of Fame inductee", who does the even numbered selections), Polkas United -- Consistently lively dance music behind consistently repressed singing that refuses to acknowledge that rock'n'roll, country, blues, jazz, etc, ever happened. Which might not be bad if said singing had a Polish or German accent (or if its pre-rock pop inflections had some distinction otherwise), but it doesn't.

xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 13 January 2007 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, the Mooney Suzuki song that paperthinwalls linked to doesn't sound bad as a standalone; it'd be better if it was two minutes shorter (it kinda falls apart by the time the soul-sister backup comes in), but Eric Davidson rightly compares it to the Doobies yet ignores how good a rock album their Matrix one was:

http://paperthinwalls.com/singlefile/item?id=406

xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 13 January 2007 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

gary numan is the greatest artist in the universe

identify as: mark s (mark s), Saturday, 13 January 2007 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

I reviewed a Cloud Cult record for some online thing a while back, and I remember kind of liking its textural bias. Don't have the record any more, though. "Advice from the Happy Hippopotamus," and now I remember that I thought they were kinda like Jethro Tull meets Boards of Canada, weird melancholic evocations of lost childhood.

As for Over the Rhine, Chuck, that's a section of downtown Cincinnati that used to be a nice German part of the city and then after whiteflight days of the '50s and '60s turned into pretty much a horrible slum. It might be different now--I lived there in 2002-2003, what a weird place that was, beautiful and in many ways fascinating, a once-major city all sunk in on itself--so that area might be in the throes of urban renewal by now. The German elements in Zinzinnati weren't as obvious by the time I got there, but you could still feel it. Then there's a whole side of town that's settled by people from eastern Ky. and Tenn., the "west side," I think, the city is separated by a big ridge. Where King Records was is just a run-down slum, not much different from where Stax was in Memphis, except you ate "chili" instead of weird tamales and barbecue. Maybe they're changing all that, too. As the band Over the Rhine, never could figure out what the fuss was, boring.

as for almost-country-why-not, Ron Sexsmith. his new one I've tried to like, I mean I like it a little bit and I respect its obvious sincerity and craft, but he's just not much of a singer. He sounds a bit like Jackson Browne, which isn't too bad, and he also sounds uncannily like Ray Davies in spots. he hits the notes but he lacks drama. And the songs are good, but there's just an extra-X element lacking that could take any one of them from OK into really good. he does one about being bummed out by hearing Leadbelly as backdrop for a bookstore ambience kinda thing, and OK, but the obvious riposte is that *his* music does exactly the same thing, it sort of murmurs in that genteel way. Still, he obviously has something, but doesn't in my book deserve the praise he's gotten from lots of people, like, er, No Depression...guy there says his work "not only echoes but rivals that of the Kinks at their most exquisite," but I don't hear it. It's *not* exquisite, is the point, but rather workaday. Maybe I need to be in the right mood, like buying hundreds of dollars worth of books and magazines in Borders while eating a five-dollar muffin and drinking coffee. Plus the Kinks at their best were endearingly crass and Sexsmith doesn't seem to want to ever commit anything so energetic to disc.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 13 January 2007 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

what a weird place that was, beautiful and in many ways fascinating, a once-major city all sunk in on itself--so that area might be in the throes of urban renewal by now. The German elements in Zinzinnati weren't as obvious by the time I got there

I lived there from Kindergarten to 4th Grade, so I guess around 1965 to 1969 or so. Don't remember it much (just like everything else at that time in my life), but the one time I went back to the city in the mid '80s to drop in on Richard R., the greenness and hilliness of its vistas reminded me a lot of Germany around Mainz and Bad Kreuznach, where I'd been stationed in the Army. I should go back again sometime (to both places.) And I should track down that book.

xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 13 January 2007 19:03 (nineteen years ago)

xxxxk i know you been trying to like otr, you been bragging about how hard youve tried for about four years now but you still dont like them so how good could you be at trying?

ohio is a great fucking record because karin is a great singer and songwriter. their followup drunkard's prayer was a conscious pullback away from karin being in charge of the band; it saved their relationship and linford's fragile ego, but at the cost of her truly being able to be free to cut loose. it was boring and i said so. i saw them on both tours and the last time (after they had supposedly gotten back on track with each other) there was a palpable tension between them onstage, no adoring looks, no chemistry, no nothing. it was really weird. so anyway.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Saturday, 13 January 2007 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

sexsmith is sort of ubquitious here, sold in second cups, all over the cbc, and i dont think he is as good as any of the american british options

it sounds a bit like the new teddy thompson but thompson is much more beautiful.

pinkmoose (jacklove), Saturday, 13 January 2007 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, FALSE ALARM ALERT: The more time I spend with the Cloud Cult CD, the more unpalatably emo they sound to me. But they must have something going for them, just for grabbing me momentarily.

As slightly country-inflected indie rock goes, I'm liking Tigers & Monkeys' Loose Mouth more. Singer is Shonali Bhowmik, formerly of Atlanta-based-I-believe better-than-Breeders mid/late '90s Breeders-like art-pop-rock band Ultrababyfat, and she sings with a bit of a drawl these days. That's the country part, which is negligible but still undeniably there somewhere (and as I recall they list country as an influence) and Shonali also has a knack for repeating non-word syllables musically, in a way that sort of reminds me of Frank Blank from the Pixies a little albeit in a way I can actually stomach. But the songs that are hitting me on the album ("You Know," "Rave On," "Fire Escape" which Shonali sez is the only way out and hot hot hot, "The Ballad of the Smoking Gun" which is not a ballad) are more like if PJ Harvey (in blues-rock mode) was actually fun, and they have a decent push and bounce for indie rock, maybe even an okay one for non-indie rock. Most of the other tracks are less good though, but I haven't taken the album out of the CD changer yet. Here is their myspace if you want to judge for yerself:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=6078986

xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 13 January 2007 21:19 (nineteen years ago)

And so yeah, somehow Eddie Money or his producer buffs too much of the rock'n'rolling out of those Soul Survivors and Detroit Wheels and Cannibal & the Headhunters choons. The beat lags, and the vocals seem kinda congested and a wee bit thin; Ed's always been something of an ugly pug vocalwise just like visualwise (mouth at the side of his face), and though his voice has held up better than, say, Bob Seger's, that's not saying all that much. Killer song choice, though.

xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 13 January 2007 21:53 (nineteen years ago)

I like Tigers and Monkeys, mostly because the songs remind me of the mid-1980s and because she's a good singer and kinda indie-cute, and because of Fred Armisen's cameo in the video for "Fire Escape".

Haikunym (Haikunym), Saturday, 13 January 2007 22:04 (nineteen years ago)

Eddie Money or his producer buffs too much of the rock'n'rolling out

Or maybe he just needs a better band! Somebody else figure it out.

xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 13 January 2007 22:07 (nineteen years ago)


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