Lily Allen - This summers biggest racist?

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Tim: I would instantly agree to carry her children.

more than a few of us are going to feel like we've found a soulmate. dawning realisation over the past week: she is THAT good

Janet Kay, Ragga Twins, Ian Dury, Lily Allen...

Paul (scifisoul), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 14:30 (twenty years ago)

finally suss'd she reminds me of Polystyrene

Paul (scifisoul), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 14:38 (twenty years ago)

frank, the beats intl track is actually called "dub be good to me" (norman cook, so clever). i love that tune, have a cassingle of it somewhere. and yeah i'd never been too interested in v.paradis, but then i'd never heard any of her early french stuff either.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 17:04 (twenty years ago)

at least one of the grimish things is More Fire Crew - Oi! I think the junglish track at the end is this http://www.discogs.com/release/157316 but I might be wrong (don't have the mix to hand right now) and it could be that bloke who caused a lot of fuss with that other hiccupy "in-in-credible" pop/jungle tune when it all kicked off (by claiming he invented the whole genre hehe).

fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 17:38 (twenty years ago)

On a "Just be Good to Me" tip, be sure to keep an ear out for this record, which is one of the worst I've ever heard:

"Just Be Good To Me" by Karmah
Release: 10 July (tbc)
We've been wanting to feature this all year and were delighted to hear that dance music's man of the moment Matt Jagger will release it in the UK on the Europa label. The elements are the Police Every Breath You Take guitarline, a rap that is just the right side of cheesy, and the Beats International chorus. Does it work? We think so - and it's an engrossing listen finding out. It's an Italian production from 1997 that did very little back then but its time has come. We heard about it when it start to hog the upper reaches of Shazam's German chart. It went on to spend three weeks at #5 on the German singles chart and it should be a pan- European smash.

My mum in Feb 1988 when Vanessa Paradis was on Top of the Pops for "Joe le Taxi" (No.3 in the UK): "I bet it's just paedophiles buying this record."

("Dub Be God To Me" was No.1 in the UK in Feb 1990.)

Bloke who caused a lot of fuss = M-Beat featuring General Levy "Incredible"

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 17:43 (twenty years ago)

My mum in Feb 1988 when Vanessa Paradis was on Top of the Pops for "Joe le Taxi" (No.3 in the UK): "I bet it's just paedophiles buying this record."

haha, tell it to france gall.

("Dub Be God To Me" was No.1 in the UK in Feb 1990.)

yeah that came out during one of my u.k. sojourns. late '89 was a good time for the pop charts there.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 18:01 (twenty years ago)

Finally got a chance to listen to some of her songs outside of that mixtape and I'm even more sure I like this a lot.

Her phrasing generally is spot on isn't it? She seems to know how to lift the lyrics into sounding really natural & spontaneous, comfortable even. Lily swings, which is actually pretty refreshing compared with a lot of ILM canon blitzkreig pop which tries like buggery to impress you into sensual submission yet ends up simply uptight for all the effort.

fandango (fandango), Thursday, 4 May 2006 08:19 (twenty years ago)

xpost - thanks Raw Patrick

so... is the NME going to jump on the Lily bandwagon?

fandango (fandango), Thursday, 4 May 2006 08:45 (twenty years ago)

she is KEITH ALLEN'S DAUGHTER.
:(

-- You'll Never Put a Better Bit of Butter On Your Knife (dadaismu...), May 2nd, 2006.

this is the bottom line, people.

the Enrique who acts like some kind of good taste gestapo (Enrique), Thursday, 4 May 2006 08:58 (twenty years ago)

Yeah but he's got loads of kids, hasn't he?

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 4 May 2006 09:08 (twenty years ago)

none of us are in with a chance... so what difference does it make? :'(

fandango (fandango), Thursday, 4 May 2006 09:10 (twenty years ago)

watching the video now - not sure about this actually.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Thursday, 4 May 2006 09:51 (twenty years ago)

We have yet to see how she feels about being sprog of Keith, but she does love her nan.

suzy (suzy), Thursday, 4 May 2006 10:21 (twenty years ago)

has anyone got that video in another format? I can't seem to get it to stream (yo Lily marketing dept - youtube?)

I like this but I'm still kinda sceptical about the mega-hype brewing for her... does she have any ballads incidentally? I'm not sure how much, if anything, of an emotional connection I'm getting from her music so far.

fandango (fandango), Thursday, 4 May 2006 16:38 (twenty years ago)

Lily Allen Playground

JW (ex machina), Thursday, 4 May 2006 17:18 (twenty years ago)

I was a little surprised about the video, too, considering that LDN is by far her best song. You'd think they'd spend the big bucks on it.

someone let this mitya out! (mitya), Thursday, 4 May 2006 17:21 (twenty years ago)

The album is called "Alright, Still" according to this here Google sponsored link....

fandango (fandango), Thursday, 4 May 2006 17:41 (twenty years ago)

Cheers Mark Ronson!

SF: You've worked with Mark Ronson on his album, and on your album. His Radiohead cover is hot, but your collaboration on a version of Kaiser Chiefs' "Oh My God" is just jaw-dropping!

SF: Did he pick the track and you to sing it, or did you have some say in it?

LA: I actually picked " no one knows " QOTSA , but he made me do " oh my god " as he thought my voice was better suited to it .

>:(

This can only end in tears...

fandango (fandango), Thursday, 4 May 2006 19:45 (twenty years ago)

does she have any ballads incidentally? I'm not sure how much, if anything, of an emotional connection I'm getting from her music so far.

I've just got back from seeing her live. It was great. More report tomorrow as long as I can skive at work long enough. One of the reasons I was into her is that "Smile" hit me emotionally like no other song this year.

I'm fucking covered in sweat right now. Yuck.

("No One Knows" would be much better than "I Predict a Riot". I feel RONSON is the only thing that can fuck this up for her.)

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Thursday, 4 May 2006 22:05 (twenty years ago)

I fear this is the target Lady Sovereign has been spectacularly failing to hit for the last year.

Yes, Lily could well prove to be the Pat Boone to Lady Sov's Little Richard, although I quite like "LDN".

John Hunter, Thursday, 4 May 2006 22:48 (twenty years ago)

It is very near the mark. Her A&R is the same guy who found Ms Dynamite.

suzy (suzy), Friday, 5 May 2006 00:10 (twenty years ago)

Am I the only one reminded of Nellie McKay?

Matt LC (flightsatdusk), Friday, 5 May 2006 00:41 (twenty years ago)

I'm loving Lily! "LDN" is one of the standout singles of the year so far.

Tape Store (Tape Store), Friday, 5 May 2006 01:13 (twenty years ago)

#8 is selectah "wede man" on hoody records (1993)

DEEDS NOT WORDS (vahid), Friday, 5 May 2006 02:27 (twenty years ago)

i never want to hear this music

strongo hulkington is a guy with a belly button piercing (dubplatestyle), Friday, 5 May 2006 02:28 (twenty years ago)

i mean, the artist is name selectah

the jungle track at the end is origin unknown's "valley of the shadows (31 seconds)", omni trio VIP remix, right?

DEEDS NOT WORDS (vahid), Friday, 5 May 2006 02:29 (twenty years ago)

dude the mix is GREAT! the only thing that lets it down is jammer's "go dj" (#15)

DEEDS NOT WORDS (vahid), Friday, 5 May 2006 02:30 (twenty years ago)

i think i hate england

strongo hulkington is a guy with a belly button piercing (dubplatestyle), Friday, 5 May 2006 02:31 (twenty years ago)

Try not to hate… keith allen’s daughter or not, she can write some sweet lyrics. Anyway, those missing mixtape tunes are 9 is ‘She taught me to yodel’ by Peter Barry, the junglist tunes at the end are ‘Incredible’ by General Levy, not UK Apache and that ‘31 seconds’ tune is called Valley of the Shadows by Origin Unknown from about 1993 (I think) – like someone else said, the mixing is a bit rough but the tune selection is spot on, reminds me of my own tapes :)

runforcover, Friday, 5 May 2006 03:29 (twenty years ago)

i think she's adorable and her music is light & fun like most good pop(and I was totally not sold on MIA or Lady Sov, or Nellie McKay either)

timmy tannin (pompous), Friday, 5 May 2006 05:09 (twenty years ago)

LDN is the happiest song about pimps and crack whores and old ladies being mugged ever.

StanM (StanM), Friday, 5 May 2006 05:37 (twenty years ago)

I lean towards Jess's take for now. It's a case where reading about people's reactions to it probably says more than hearing the music itself.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 5 May 2006 05:43 (twenty years ago)

the mixtape is good, though! "piracy is terrorism" = still great, right?

DEEDS NOT WORDS (vahid), Friday, 5 May 2006 05:49 (twenty years ago)

for rough orientation, think nelly furtado.

(not an insult in my book.)

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 5 May 2006 05:50 (twenty years ago)

Lily vs. M.I.A. is a troubling decision.

reasonably familiar, safe, bourgoise, appealing, genuine knack for vocals

or

"new" sounding, abrasive/exciting/radical popette, charmless, vocally annoying, little ability to own her tunes

It feels about as hip to choose the former as it did admitting that a lot of that Arctic Monkeys album was actually decent :/

fandango (fandango), Friday, 5 May 2006 06:02 (twenty years ago)

Lily vs. M.I.A. is a troubling decision.

reasonably familiar, safe, bourgoise, appealing, genuine knack for vocals

or

"new" sounding, abrasive/exciting/radical popette, charmless, vocally annoying, little ability to own her tunes

And which is who again?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 5 May 2006 06:05 (twenty years ago)

This thread is doomed.

fandango (fandango), Friday, 5 May 2006 06:10 (twenty years ago)

and to reiterate, she put credence on her mixtape

jergins (jergins), Friday, 5 May 2006 06:18 (twenty years ago)

lol look what I have started, I am of no relation to Lily Allen nor do I work for her! jus like the music and thought I should spread the word... which I think i have done succesfully.
I don't like the video, jus looks cheap, cant fault the songs though.

E-clex
www.eclex.bravehost.com

E-Clex (E-Clex), Friday, 5 May 2006 07:35 (twenty years ago)

It's spelt Creedence. And Creedence rule.

(x-post)

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Friday, 5 May 2006 07:40 (twenty years ago)

is this the beginning of a Creedence revival?

StanM (StanM), Friday, 5 May 2006 07:42 (twenty years ago)

(and yes, I'm sorry)

StanM (StanM), Friday, 5 May 2006 07:44 (twenty years ago)

You'd better put some clear water between you and this thread....

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 5 May 2006 07:54 (twenty years ago)

Like Lady Sov or the miserable MIA if they had any talent At. All.

David Orton (scarlet), Friday, 5 May 2006 08:02 (twenty years ago)

The best thing I can imagine this being is the new Betty Boo but I have a horrible feeling I'm going to be disappointed. What exactly are the words Belle and Sebastian doing on this thread?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 5 May 2006 08:18 (twenty years ago)

keith allen’s daughter or not, she can write some sweet lyrics

That's the first thing I always look for in any form of music - good lyrics

Vitbe... *pause*... Is Good Bread (Dada), Friday, 5 May 2006 08:20 (twenty years ago)

Wow this thread has gone from hype to backlash within the space of a week: that's a new ILM record!

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 5 May 2006 08:23 (twenty years ago)

This is feeling more "like" cheese vs. chalk every post, and I'm regretting the Lady Sov comment quite a bit.

fandango (fandango), Friday, 5 May 2006 08:25 (twenty years ago)

actually i think the first strokes thread STARTED as backlash.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 5 May 2006 08:29 (twenty years ago)

Doesn't count then. I haven't looked but I assume the Dave Matthews band one did too.

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 5 May 2006 08:56 (twenty years ago)


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