Husker Du : Classic or Dud, Search and Destroy.

So here's a question that I've had for twenty years:

Why is it that on the inside of Zen Arcade it says "All songs written by whoever sings it except for "Someday" that Grant wrote"?

Didn't Grant also sing it, so it would still fall under "song written by singer" rule?

Ah, I see it's the only song with lyrics on the album that has two songwriters. Still, Grant Hart sang a song that he wrote.

ahem, Bob Mould was a writer for WCW, not WWF.

and, classic - new day rising (the song). fucking great.

Classic. Nothing beats the first side/half of New Day Rising.

Classic. Those SST records are timeless

They could at least have given Greg one of these weird credits like "Yoko: Wind" to beef up his instruments line.

Oops, wrong thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdFryHOAmlQ

Would love to see a copy of the insert from Land Speed record. It had a list of bands that people should check out. It has always stuck in my head that there was a band listed called the Maggot Brains listed which had me wondering about the array of influences on original US punk bands, though it could have just sounded like a good name and only have distant connection to the Funkadelic lp.

I love the band just as they're heading into the psychedelic stuff so Zen Arcade & New Day Rising and the live in London dvd which has me as a skinny 17 year old thrashing about. Probably also Metal Circus though I haven't heard it in ages. & definitely live sets from late 83- around 86.

I also love the Bob Mould '89 tour stuff that was recorded with Tony Maimone and Anton Fier as a rhythm section. Think there may have been a 2nd guitarist for some of that too.
Not sure what exactly is in circulation but do really like it.

The one time I saw Sugar I was so bored I started reading the book that was in my pocket.

There's a how to buy the Huskers in the new Brian Jones cover Mojo as I discovered minutes after my last posting. Thought there must be an edition due so looked it up and lo and behold.

with money?

New day rising

there was an ancient thread specifically for that:

Okay, so I guess Robert Palmer used to cover Husker Du's "New Day Rising" in concert! Does anyone have an mp3 of this??

That was way back when it was merely a rumour though

Re: "I Will never forget you" - talk about feeling something intensely!

Ah, thank you Nick, hold on here...

On Amtrak train now stopping in Redwing, MN. Wondering if maybe Greg Norton will be visible out the window.

http://cdn.mos.totalfilm.com/images/t/there-will-be-blood-03-645-75.jpg

No such luck. Some Mennonites got on in La Crosse though! Not sure if they are the carriage or black bumper brand.

http://factmag-images.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/plectrumrecords2-500x350.jpg

^ rfi: what huskers vinyl is that on the wall of this record store?

that is the bootleg of their 1985 show at first avenue, just as they were working on Candy Apple Grey, and it's pretty amazing tbh. my favourite version of Green Eyes, for sure.
http://www.discogs.com/H%C3%BCsker-D%C3%BC-Live-At-The-First-Avenue-Club/release/2168534

thanks stevie - nice set!

You're So Square

ha, is grant singing that one?

He is! Actually, Bob and Grant share vocals but Grant's dominant on here, and it turns into a terrifying Wit & Wisdom in the middle.

in fact here it is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Elo29fSasCE

I've got one of these bootlegs where they've got "Celebrated Summer" on the track listing as "Sons of Bitches".

hahahahaha what?

"let's go die" is still one of the best song titles ever

the whole track list on Land Speed Record is too fucking good. "Push the Button," "Guns at My School," "Let's Go Die," "Tired of Doing Things."

Track 10:

http://i.imgur.com/AXHCLei.jpg

I think this is the same show as what's on the bootleg vinyl. More songs on the CD though.

it definitely is. Sadly, this performance is very over-used. Shame there aren't more Huskers shows in circulation. I guess there are a couple tapes on YouTube.

weird questions: how seriously am I supposed to take the views expressed in "Real World" & who is the imagined interlocutor ("You wanna change the world by breaking rules and laws")?

I don't really know anything about the Huskers or their politics, but the song's speaker seems to toe the line between common-sense/can't-we-all-get-along thinking & a sort of reactionary conservatism ("I'm afraid of things like that & I lock my doors at night" obviously; but sometimes I even hear the line "I don't rape, & I don't pillage!" in a whiny besieged MRA tone)

so, my question is: do you think the band were satirizing contemporary American attitudes (yuppies! NIMBY!! broken windows policing!!!) or offering a genuine critique of a violent, destructive element within their own scene?

the second one, I think they meant it

(I don't have any support for this, maybe there's an old interview somewhere)

it seems very very Bob

who's the strawman?

everyone. pretty standard mould misanthropy. "everything falls apart" is a better song with the same message, "everything is so fucked up i guess it's natural that way / i guess we like it that way"

also WHEN ARE THEIR ALBUMS GETTING REMASTERED. EVERYTHING BUT THE VINYL SOUNDS LIKE SHIT! huskers and prince. what the fuck is up

seriously, I clicked on this revive for the tiniest glimmer of hope on the reissue horizon

At the time, Real World seemed very obviously directed at the circle-A types who'd get in sidewalk fights with "Nazi" frat boys, and eat out of the Au Bon Pain dumpster, and get very smug about it. Felt like a very sincere pleading for coming down to earth a little. Now it seems more an end run on nihilism- too fatigued to even believe in nothing. But maybe that's cause Mould's persona is much more fixed.

xpost I clicked on it fearing one of them had died (the feeling I get lately anytime I see an unexpected bump of a thread for anyone I like who's over 50) (lol sure symptom I am having a midlife crisis)

i clicked on it wondering what anyone could have to say about HD right now
also because i think Grant Hart is coming back around in a month or so and i'm looking forward to seeing him again even though last time i saw him he was in a crummy mood

He needs hugs iirc

he doesnt look so good these days. is he on the spike again?

Geez I sure hope not.

so, my question is: do you think the band were satirizing contemporary American attitudes (yuppies! NIMBY!! broken windows policing!!!) or offering a genuine critique of a violent, destructive element within their own scene?

Pretty sure the second one. That jumped out at me right away, and I mentioned it when I reviewed the record for my university paper in 1983. I think Minor Threat's "Salad Days" is after something (somewhat) similar.

don't know the Minor Threat; going to fix that now

thanks for the thoughtful replies, everybody!