The Monkees: Classic or Dud?

The complete series/Head/addenda blu-ray box is actually tempting me.

is there a lazier songwriter than Cuomo gah he is so terrible

xpost I'm pretty tempted, too, but not $200 worth of tempted. Hopefully that price will drop at some point.

yeah i was excited when they announced that but $200, nah.

it's also in some kind of needlessly large deluxe box that won't fit on your DVD/Blu-Ray shelf. i find that obnoxious.

That's Mickey on "It Makes Me Laugh," yeah? It barely sounds like him.

yuck what is that crap? give me any random Monkees 60s album filler over this Weezer-Monkees

The Weenkees

Nothing could have conveyed the idiocy of those lyrics better than putting them in the video.

I like it!

"she makes me laugh"? more like, "this song is laughable"!

i'll be here all week.

It sounds nothing like and recalls pretty much nothing of the Monkees so maybe this is finally the sequel to Pool It! I've been longing for.

Micky asked Ami who's that band that her kids like these days and she said she thought they were called Weezer and by the time this conversation got back to her mortified kids Micky had already recorded the song.

It sounds nothing like and recalls pretty much nothing of the Monkees

It sounds like a '60s-ish band with a tambourine player. Lyrically, this is the band that did "Cuddly Toy."

sincerely hope that everybody involved in this cash-in garbage dies ASAP

I think I just read that they did, iirc.

it's not that bad, y'all calm down.

Lyrically, this is the band that did "Cuddly Toy."

I mean that was written by Nilsson, and not specifically for the band, so . . . ?

Cuomo isn't fit to lick Nilsson's shoes

Rivers Cuomo is a better songwriter than 3.5 Neil Diamonds

The complete series/Head/addenda blu-ray box is actually tempting me.

I'm glad I went for it when it was first announced -- the money was there so I thought "Eh, let me just pay now and that way it'll feel like a bonus when it finally comes out." The more they keep adding to it the more I'm intrigued, but it sounds like they've at least reached final cut-off.

It sounds nothing like and recalls pretty much nothing of the Monkees

It sounds like a '60s-ish band with a tambourine player. Lyrically, this is the band that did "Cuddly Toy."

― timellison, Thursday, April 28, 2016 10:08 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

r u serious? "Cuddly Toy" is a great melody, especially that Beatlesy minor key middle 8. i think the lyrics are a bit deeper than you give them credit for, i see it of a mind w "Under My Thumb"/"Get Off My Cloud"-era Stones or Floyd that peculiar British take on psychedelic, a twee/regressive/(proto-punk?) cynical whimsy tinged with sex and drugs

my main problem w this song is the production, it sounds like a robot. the words are all choppy. the swing is not there, you can get a more rock swing from a casio keyboard beat. the meter of the words is just not enjoyable for me to hear.

the melody could be cool maybe but it sounds like someone who has played music so much they don't even know what to do anymore and are just trying bad ideas just for the sake of not being bored while writing song #536

I was just arguing that the silliness in the lyrics does not seem out of character for a Monkees song to me at all, especially a Micky song. If "Cuddly Toy" was not the most apt song to bring up, there are others.

It's not the silly lyrics that make it not sound like a Monkee's song but rather the fact that it doesn't sound like a Monkee's song. And I wouldn't argue that it's bad, just that it doesn't sound like a Monkee's song.

I have no idea why I just possessive-ized Monkees four times.

The Andy Partridge tune is out, and basically sounds like they copied and pasted Mickey's auto-tuned vocals into an XTC demo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_D6XNpYxdU

The phrasing is so Partridge-esque that Schlesinger and Partridge may have directed him line-by-line.

It's okay but I will never think of it again pretty much, I don't hear much in the way of auto-tuning in Dolenz's voice though, I'm sure it was corrected but it's still a little wayward in places.

Drummer sounds like Prairie Prince too

p good, does sound much more like an XTC song than a Monkees one but whatever

"Birth of an Accidental Hipster" is awesome!

the hell this reunion album is kinda awesome huh?? craziness

I mean at least a part of this is the surprise and low expectations but goddamn this is all good-to-great and really nicely produced

really like the very white album/nilsson-y "i was there (and i'm told i had a good time)"

(not to be confused with the actual nilsson song on this album)

I didn't like that Rivers Phoenix tune at all the first time I heard it, so was steering clear of this album, but I finally put it on just now thanks to the accolades and kind of digging it, even that RP tune.

I like the production, neither too modern slick nor too retro schtick.

Ha, I said Rivers Phoenix twice instead of Rivers Cuomo.

http://i.imgur.com/mMRCcSD.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-5E6_qtXAw

I was steering clear because I've had mixed results with non-60s Monkees material but at a bare minimum the song "Good Times" is worth the price of admission for me

In related Monkee news, Wounded Bird has just done an expanded reissue of The Lewis and Clark Expedition album, which iirc has never been officially released on CD before.

This album really is surprisingly (for me, a non-Monkees fan anyway) good. Maybe most surprising is that songs written by actual Monkees (Tork's Little Girl and Nesmith's I Know What I Know) are as good as any of the other (also good) songs by the ringer songwriters.

No surprise about Michael Nesmith, a fantastic songwriter.

The surprise there may be that he's using a good song on a Monkees album rather than saving it for one of his own. Still haven't heard it, except for the Cuomo one, which I may have liked more had I not read the lyrics while listening to it.

Looking at his discography over the last 20 years, he's the opposite of prolific, so he may have been grateful to have a Monkees album to place the one or two really good songs he had in the can.

http://www.rockcellarmagazine.com/2016/06/07/andy-partridge-interview-the-monkees-good-times-xtc-songwriting/#sthash.LtlqW0S1.ok6InECj.dpbs

Mike Nesmith's final Monkees concert is tonight. There's been some good footage on facebook of the last few nights.

Deep regret that thanks to accidental timing I missed both the Veldt playing SF -- which would have been the first time I'd ever get to see them at long last -- and the Monkees down in Monterey, where Nesmith joined them since he lives in Carmel Valley. Ah well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7rphYKTmI8

this song pretty much rules. love the part where he's not singing any words and they play w the echo on his voice. Nirvana would've done done an amazing cover of this.