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LOL at that meme

ArchCarrier, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 19:30 (ten years ago)

I was thinking about his worst projects again, and I think, contrary to popular Prince fan opinion, that the Madhouse albums are pretty poor. Prince's jazz-funk isnt particularly strong IMO, even if it does have some good moments/riffs/licks/melodies here and there. I think fans just like to think Prince could do anything, but as NEWS made pretty clear, hes good at being jazzy, but actual jazz? Nah. I dont hear it. Like, hearing Miles play live with him at that NYE show is fantastic. Hearing a song between them? I dunno how good it would be.

StillAdvance, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 19:51 (ten years ago)

I agree w that, altho I'm having a hard time putting my finger on what it is exactly about jazz that Prince doesn't get.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 20:16 (ten years ago)

Looseness. Swing. Think about how much time he spent working with drum machines. A drummer like Tony Williams would have totally wrong-footed him.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 20:19 (ten years ago)

Prince didn't get that it's best not to approach it as "jazz."

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 20:19 (ten years ago)

"Looseness. Swing. Think about how much time he spent working with drum machines. A drummer like Tony Williams would have totally wrong-footed him."

true, but even NEWS, some decades after madhouse, and several years playing off drummers, wasnt too hot either.

StillAdvance, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 20:23 (ten years ago)

FYI someone on facebook calling themselves His Royal Highness is sharing the most insane collection of bootleg videos and such. shit like 90 minutes of 'out-takes' from the the recording of the Sign O The Times film. he must be 'connected'.

piscesx, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 20:25 (ten years ago)

https://www.facebook.com/His-Royal-Highness-316507635225335/?fref=nf

scott seward, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 20:32 (ten years ago)

The band who opened for D'Angelo at First Ave with St. Paul Peterson, Eric Leeds, etc. was not that good. Great players of course, but without someone like Prince to direct and frame things it was just jams. The only interesting part was watching Questlove try to keep things in check while the other drummer overplayed.

sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 20:34 (ten years ago)

Loved the New Yorker postscript. I've got to admit, I'd never even considered Prince's iconography or pictograph lexicon as avant garde, but of course they were.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 20:34 (ten years ago)

if anyone's unaware of this bootleg it's 1) incredible 2) so nice that i can listen to it at work and completely ignore work

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zQ7SZ1Q014

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 21:08 (ten years ago)

BN, MOMI is showing Purple Rain Friday night, 7:30

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 21:10 (ten years ago)

if i weren't going to a birthday party i'd be there. ifc is showing under the cherry moon may 6/7 at midnight iirc and i will DEFINITELY be there

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 21:11 (ten years ago)

I might be! Never saw the whole thing, and at least he got Michael Ballhaus to shoot it.

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 21:19 (ten years ago)

it's probably the best looking of the three films

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 21:25 (ten years ago)

Going to purple rain on 42nd St in two hours

scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 21:32 (ten years ago)

under the cherry moon looks amazing and is ridiculous and incoherent and is therefore my favorite movie

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 21:33 (ten years ago)

It looks delicious but doesn't Prince get punchable after 10 minutes

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 21:37 (ten years ago)

Brad's estimation of it is pretty otm. I watched it a couple nights ago. (Haven't been able to bring myself to watch Graffiti Bridge, which has the fewest redeeming values of his films - in fact I think the only redeeming values of that one are that Morris Day is in it)

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 21:40 (ten years ago)

i've never seen graffiti bridge. nobody really goes out of their way to say the soundtrack is awesome but imo the soundtrack is awesome

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 21:43 (ten years ago)

you know, i've never seen the sign of the times concert film -- i assume it's worth it, right?

y'all got to SLOW DOWN with posting the rare tracks and concerts and such. i can't keep up!

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 21:55 (ten years ago)

i've never seen it either but i've only heard it's 100 percent revelatory

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 21:55 (ten years ago)

SOTT film is v good. For some reason I seem to remember that Roger Ebert liked it?

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 21:56 (ten years ago)

re: Under the Cherry Moon, Prince is p amusing w/in any given scene, but the scenes don't make a whole lot of sense all taken together

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 21:58 (ten years ago)

yeah Graffiti Bridge is great as an album. if it was all just the Prince tracks, people would love it. the association with the movie didn't help none. and whoever did the artwork wants shootin'

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/A1L3QDvz4XL._SX522_.jpg

piscesx, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 21:59 (ten years ago)

as for SOTT, yeah best 'concert' movie ever even though it was barely a concert at all.

piscesx, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 22:00 (ten years ago)

SOTT movie is great. The 'It's Gonna Be a Beautiful Night' video has been popping up lately.

sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 22:01 (ten years ago)

the version of Forever In My Life is just.. flat out sensational.

piscesx, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 22:03 (ten years ago)

from a Conan O'Brien Simpsons script that, had Prince not rejected it, would have been the Season 4 premiere:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgvhDBXU4AESgV7.jpg

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 22:06 (ten years ago)

Say hel-lo to my lit-tle FRIEND

THE BLUE ANGEL

(Oh my god look at that guitar)

scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 22:24 (ten years ago)

I always thought it interesting how "1999" doesn't start with Prince singing. The only other song I can think that cycles through another vocalist, let alone two, before finally landing on the singer is Stevie Wonder's "You Are the Sunshine of My Life."

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 22:34 (ten years ago)

xp maybe someone has mentioned already, but the simpsons ppl talk about that episode in one of the dvd commentaries - apparently at the same time prince got sent the simpsons script he also received a fan-written script for a simpsons episode featuring him, and in some kind of mix-up thought that one was the real one. he loved it and gave the simpsons producers some notes, and only when they couldn't match up his notes to their script did they figure out the mistake. then he saw their actual script and rejected it immediately

lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 22:35 (ten years ago)

saw the Sign movie when it came out when I wuz 16; it is absolutely exhilarating. Saw Graffiti Bridge, which I remember chiefly from some awesome Morris-jerome bits…

this is one of the Royal Highness vids mentioned above, must be a warm-up at 1st Avenue in early '87… "hot thing" is off the charts…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s6uSt3jR-s

veronica moser, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 22:52 (ten years ago)

holy shit yeah.

this used to do the rounds a fair bit, not sure if it's been mentioned so far. hasn't been available for years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpEgEfgM1vM

piscesx, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 22:58 (ten years ago)

listening to so much of his stuff lately I am reminded of a key element that no one really mentions: Prince was really into taking baths. So much bathing.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 23:02 (ten years ago)

Paisley Park 12" is so fucking good. I don't really understand why this isn't a more renowned Prince song. It might be my favorite on atwiad. Wendy and Lisa's seesaw vocal melody makes me all misty eyed.

scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 23:04 (ten years ago)

Around The World In A Day, Lovesexy and Come r the ones eye seem 2 be listening 2 the most.

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 23:31 (ten years ago)

R U doing that UR self or is there some sort of browser extension eye should be looking 4?

how's life, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 23:35 (ten years ago)

xp maybe someone has mentioned already, but the simpsons ppl talk about that episode in one of the dvd commentaries - apparently at the same time prince got sent the simpsons script he also received a fan-written script for a simpsons episode featuring him, and in some kind of mix-up thought that one was the real one. he loved it and gave the simpsons producers some notes, and only when they couldn't match up his notes to their script did they figure out the mistake. then he saw their actual script and rejected it immediately

― lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, April 27, 2016 6:35 PM (58 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hahaha that's amazing

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 23:35 (ten years ago)

more details:

http://www.stereogum.com/1873291/simpsons-producer-details-rejected-prince-episode-co-written-by-conan-obrien/news/?PageSpeed=noscript

the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 23:37 (ten years ago)

Questove anecdote related on NPR today hearkens back to his infamous rollerskating tale and almost trumps it.

http://www.npr.org/2016/04/27/475721555/questlove-on-prince-doo-wop-and-the-food-equivalent-of-the-mona-lisa

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 23:46 (ten years ago)

late to the party but the full syracuse show is slaying me. although i love his output from before and after this era, ever since i saw purple rain as a kid this is what i always imagined a prince concert to be.

dynamicinterface, Thursday, 28 April 2016 03:48 (ten years ago)

as a showman the dude was on some kinda level

dynamicinterface, Thursday, 28 April 2016 03:56 (ten years ago)

Still bummed. It ends like THIS?

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 28 April 2016 05:30 (ten years ago)

I always thought it interesting how "1999" doesn't start with Prince singing. The only other song I can think that cycles through another vocalist, let alone two, before finally landing on the singer is Stevie Wonder's "You Are the Sunshine of My Life."

― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 22:34 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I found the video interesting that for the intro and half of the first verse he's climbing down from a balcony and nowhere near the microphone. He gets there on time, just.

Mark G, Thursday, 28 April 2016 06:34 (ten years ago)

VV on the Sign film

http://www.villagevoice.com/film/he-rocked-that-mother-to-the-max-tragically-prince-s-best-film-is-not-commercially-available-8541822

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 28 April 2016 08:32 (ten years ago)

SOTT is superb, but for a straight concert video, lovesexy is unimpeachable.

not watched GB since 1992 or thereabouts (though the artwork for the album/movie is amazing!). dont really need to but UTCM is underrated! it looks great. though i do sometimes think prince should have just let morris day act in his place.

StillAdvance, Thursday, 28 April 2016 09:52 (ten years ago)

Still bummed. It ends like THIS?

Me too, just about coming to terms now. Wanting for there to be a giant Undo button somewhere because this isn't the path that reality was supposed to travel down.

Supposed Former ILM Lurker (WeWantMiles), Thursday, 28 April 2016 10:17 (ten years ago)

i wish he hadnt died in an elevator, but then, where do most people die? you cant pick where your life ends. :|

StillAdvance, Thursday, 28 April 2016 10:27 (ten years ago)


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