Beyonce in 2016 - 'Formation' and Lemonade

"My Girls" is not copped from Frankie Knuckles. It's a three note arpeggio that was written and performed on a piano before MPP was released. They had trouble recording the original loop so they used a synth instead. It's not a cop at all, it's an accident. It's three notes!

the actual explanation for Koenig's credit is pretty lol

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cg6C9tHUYAEUDoZ.jpg

god forbid I make a stupid joke about video games

actually it's about ethics in video game jokes

is there going to be anywhere legit (not tidal) to watch the film?

― cher guevara (lex pretend), Monday, April 25, 2016 10:15 AM (1 hour ago)

the cd release will contain a dvd of the film as disc 2 according to the amazon listing

https://www.buzzfeed.com/davidmack/she-just-wants-to-cook-brunch#.ynmbeQBZQ

this is kind of the funniest thing ever

The iTunes album package also has the film included. Not sure what software I'd need to watch it with. No doubt there's something already on my MacBook that plays it. iTunes probably!

(*Full disclosure: I've never watched the DVD of videos that came with the s/t CD.)

https://twitter.com/anthonyblsmith/status/724676347050729473

'aj soprano' is a reasonable look.

I am currently playing "Hold Up" and "Sorry" a lot

same

what a time to be alive, part 435234652345

not sure an arpeggio counts as a heinous theft of the entire song "your love". and also It's not a cop at all, it's an accident. It's three notes!

It is the primary music material of that song, it is a specific three-note arpeggio that phases cells of three against a 4/4 beat, it is married to "new lyrics" about turning one's back on "community" and instead building a castle and filling it with wife and offspring; prob the worst song ever recorded

Note that AnCo's "accident" is an exact compositional lift of a very famous and important song, note that AnCo did not give Frankie Knuckles any co-writing credit (whereas Beyonce did for her own team's "accidental" theft of the weighting of "material things"); if we must talk any more about this song let's talk about it in another thread, a thread filled with old garbage

it really does grate to see people, presented with an album by a black woman about black womanhood, go on and on and on AND ON AND ON AND ON about the white dudes featured or quasi-featured on it, especially when they aren't even the only people there

This is why it has been so delicious to discover that it was an Ezra tweet! paraphrasing a YYYs song! and two words from an AnCo song! and whatever FJM is doing there! it feels like a hilarious trap for Beyonce's indie-interested listeners

god damn it don't make me defend animal collective

also since we're giving credit where credit is due, "Your Love" is by Jamie Principle not Frankie Knuckles

True!

Anyway this "visual album" is as perfect a piece of art as I could ever imagine existing and it's on repeat around here

The "visual album" is up there with Hounds of Love and Bitter as a structurally sound concept album with the weight of literature.

so much overlap between beyoncé and indie audience, don't think it's really relevant.

otm

If you don't think it's a big deal that these bear-market indie musicians are credited on a Beyonce record, and then very funny that they're basically credited for next to nothing at all, that's OK! I think it's very funny

I don't think it's a big deal, I just wish people gave a shit about anyone else in the credits

*not a big deal

If you don't think it's a big deal that these bear-market indie musicians are credited on a Beyonce record, and then very funny that they're basically credited for next to nothing at all, that's OK! I think it's very funny

― fgti, Monday, April 25, 2016 5:21 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

how do we know they did next to nothing

animal collective aside but that's far from the first time post-"blurred lines" that an artist has gotten a dubious co-writing credit

"I just wish people gave a shit about anyone else in the credits"

we should talk more about soulja boy.

oh the indies claimed him long ago

wasn't even aware Soulja Boy was credited

Meanwhile, more on Warsan Shire, who wrote the spoken interludes:

http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20160425-theres-more-to-warsan-shire-than-the-beyonc-video

Panda Bear is gonna get a second Grammy for this

If you don't think it's a big deal that these bear-market indie musicians are credited on a Beyonce record, and then very funny that they're basically credited for next to nothing at all, that's OK! I think it's very funny

― fgti, Monday, April 25, 2016 4:21 PM (38 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

...he says he & diplo did the demo that became the song but ok

like, idk if im not doing a good enough job branding myself here or what but i could give 2 fuxx about the indie bands featured on this, nonetheless making this out to be some brilliant narrative to mock white ppl's negligible contributions seems like a really weird & twisted reading of what likely happened

but has Anthony Fantano weighed in yet?

Occam's razor suggests this is not some brilliant secret meta-joke by Beyonce about copyright and race relations that to date only one person appears to have gotten, but I could be wrong.

fgti, I love you, but you're suggesting this record's aesthetic success is in part contingent on the imagined reactions of indie white boys.

a meta narrative i might buy into even if i risk being overly lex-ian is "beyonce makes silk purses out of indie pig ears"

Nothing says taking the power back like having your lawyers offer handfuls of your money to white people that would have never asked for it

Panda B can finally afford a roof for those four walls and and adobe slabs

a meta narrative i might buy into even if i risk being overly lex-ian is "beyonce makes silk purses out of indie pig ears"

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40),

I thought indie guys didn't have ears

yeah, I was talking to someone today about the Blurred Lines effect, and how so far, it's only benefitted indie artists like AC, the YYYs, and artists past their prime like Billy Corgan.

and soulja boy

panda... panda... panda...

in pop music these days anyone who breathes near the track gets a songwriting credit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWqq-CYKs50

father john misty says:

About a year and half ago, my friend Emile Haynie played Beyonce some of my music, along with some tunes I've written for other people, back when she was looking for collaborators for the record...Pretty soon after they sent along the demo for "Hold Up", which was just like a minute of the sample and the hook. I'm pretty sure they were just looking for lyrics, but I went crazy and recorded a verse melody and refrain too that, unbelievably - when you consider how ridiculous my voice sounds on the demo - ended up making the record - right between picking up the baseball bat and decapitating the fire hydrant.

I was mostly kind of in the dark, my involvement with the record kind of ends with me just sending off the demo, it wasn't until she came to my Coachella set in 2015 and told me personally it had made the record that I really had anything concrete with which to convince my friends that I hadn't actually gone insane.

the timeline of this seems weird

i think it speaks to how long she was crafting this album and its themes, probably with Jay-Z's full knowledge, that "Hold Up" is over a year old

note that AnCo did not give Frankie Knuckles any co-writing credit

i love "your love" about as much as any record and it barely even occurred to me that some indie guys shouting over indie music with an arpeggio was in any way similar whatsoever. if they copied it might sound similar. it's always amusing when someone who hates a record also claims it is nothing but a ripoff of a record they like, as if that doesn't imply difference from the get go.

seriously bullshit invoking of "your love" itt anyway. it has nothing to do with this album.

It's fiction, y'all.

how very typical that the original koenig version of "Hold Up" (or at least chorus) was about god.

Occam's razor suggests this is not some brilliant secret meta-joke by Beyonce about copyright and race relations that to date only one person appears to have gotten, but I could be wrong.

― Tim F, Monday, April 25, 2016 6:09 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

if only jay would show up james brooks-style on beyoncé ilx threads to set us straight on these matters