things Billy Corgan said to Kim Thayil in Australia in 1994 poll

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I like how BC made a riff out of distorted harmonics on "Zero".

Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Sunday, 24 April 2016 12:57 (ten years ago)

which was why it was so difficult for me to play reading it from the tabs in Guitar magazine

Neanderthal, Sunday, 24 April 2016 13:39 (ten years ago)

Yeah, it's quite a neat trick. Eye seem 2 remember Corgan being interviewed 4 that Rush documentary, and Alex Lifeson plays a lot of riffs based on harmonics on stuff like 'Cygnus X-1 Book II: Hemispheres' and 'Red Barchetta' ... It's possible Corgan may have picked up designing a riff around harmonics from listening 2 Rush.

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Sunday, 24 April 2016 13:52 (ten years ago)

i can dig this Prince-posting style

Neanderthal, Sunday, 24 April 2016 13:54 (ten years ago)

The Kor the <3 Music

PiL Communication (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 24 April 2016 13:56 (ten years ago)

I could see that. There's a striking distinction for me in that "Red Barchetta" is based on the 2nd to 4th harmonics (12th, 7th, and 5th frets), which give you octaves and fifths that are not too far from their equal-tempered counterparts. "Zero" uses the 5th, 6th, and 7th harmonics, including a just M3 and just m7 that are more distant from equal temperament. Obv, at the same time, it's more simple-minded: he just slid his finger along that stretch of the string with a tonne of distortion.

2xp OTM re posting style!

Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Sunday, 24 April 2016 14:02 (ten years ago)

what the hell is the solo to "Zero" btw. like it's this out of key weird alien sounding thing. have always liked it but didn't know if it was just achieved with a fuck ton of pedal effects or if he was just mashing frets in the 22 - 24s and bending them weirdly

Neanderthal, Sunday, 24 April 2016 14:04 (ten years ago)

Feel like this thread has lost sight of it's original focus guys. Can we bring it back to stupid things Billy Corgans says/has said? Thanks.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Sunday, 24 April 2016 14:28 (ten years ago)

"what the hell is the solo to "Zero" btw. like it's this out of key weird alien sounding thing. have always liked it but didn't know if it was just achieved with a fuck ton of pedal effects or if I was just mashing frets in the 22 - 24s and bending them weirdly"

Neanderthal, Sunday, 24 April 2016 14:29 (ten years ago)

- Blind Willy Corgs

Neanderthal, Sunday, 24 April 2016 14:30 (ten years ago)

It's a shame 2 c both 'U Hurt Me Deeply' and 'What Sign R U?' get no votes in hindsight.

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Sunday, 24 April 2016 14:34 (ten years ago)

Well first is better when you add "in my heart" so I get that one (esp. when you imagine him tapping the Superman S on his chest).

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Sunday, 24 April 2016 14:36 (ten years ago)

'What Sign R U?' would make a great Prince song title, come 2 think of it.

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Sunday, 24 April 2016 18:20 (ten years ago)

what the hell is the solo to "Zero" btw. like it's this out of key weird alien sounding thing. have always liked it but didn't know if it was just achieved with a fuck ton of pedal effects or if he was just mashing frets in the 22 - 24s and bending them weirdly

― Neanderthal, Sunday, April 24, 2016 10:04 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that's one of James' rare shining moments in a SP studio recording. painstakingly pieced together, and yeah it's run through like half a dozen harmonizers and pitch shifters

flappy bird, Monday, 25 April 2016 21:58 (ten years ago)

"Zero" is a remarkably powerful and compact song, their shortest epic. one of his most distinctive riffs, for sure. lots of layering going on with the rhythm tracks:

"Zero"
We like to call this style of our music "Cybermetal." "Zero" has six rhythm guitars, with two line-in 12-string acoustics, plus those wacky Iha leads. Tracked live with overdubs added later, this is a true mover as well as the first song that was recorded for Mellon Collie, James has always said this reminds him of Judas Priest.

http://www.starla.org/articles/gw5.htm

flappy bird, Monday, 25 April 2016 22:00 (ten years ago)

I actually bought that issue of GW!

Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 25 April 2016 23:39 (ten years ago)

two weeks pass...

ok now he's gone too far

Sharia Laws and Lambchop (The Yellow Kid), Thursday, 12 May 2016 19:37 (ten years ago)

why Prince and not this jackass

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 12 May 2016 21:50 (ten years ago)

if we had to lose one chemtrails believer...

Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 May 2016 21:51 (ten years ago)

Why does he look like a hobo

Pentenema Karten, Thursday, 12 May 2016 23:01 (ten years ago)

sometimes hobos have valid ideas. See: Regis Philbin, Kenneth Arrow, Charlotte Bronte

Poliopolice, Friday, 13 May 2016 00:00 (ten years ago)

Regis Philbin was invented by a hobo?!

sisterhood of the baggering vance (Doctor Casino), Friday, 13 May 2016 02:28 (ten years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMc2x8DZLZc

flappy bird, Friday, 13 May 2016 02:34 (ten years ago)

http://boingboing.net/2016/05/13/billy-corgan-upset-that.html

Billy Corgan upset that "the wrong racial epithet" could destroy his career

ejemplo (crüt), Friday, 13 May 2016 13:43 (ten years ago)

billy-corgan-upset

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 13 May 2016 13:44 (ten years ago)

Why does he look like a hobo

When was the last time you saw a hobo with a monogrammed hat?

Sam Weller, Friday, 13 May 2016 15:28 (ten years ago)

welcome to Boston

i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Friday, 13 May 2016 15:34 (ten years ago)

Billy Corgan upset that "the wrong racial epithet" could destroy his career

to be fair, we do have some weird problem in our society where we say that people are the worst things they've ever done or said. It's not a great way to view the world, in my opinion.

Poliopolice, Friday, 13 May 2016 17:42 (ten years ago)

heresy

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 13 May 2016 18:27 (ten years ago)

we have this other problem with white bros who are preemptively worried that if they start spewing some racist garbage they might get their feet held to the fire a little instead of just given the "aww, Billy, he's just being Billy! let the man have his epithets, after all he's made so much terrible music!" treatment

The bald Phil Collins impersonator cash grab (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 13 May 2016 18:33 (ten years ago)

Billy's just such a pathetic fucking dweeb.

Elvis Santana (stevie), Friday, 13 May 2016 19:48 (ten years ago)

Going after that Gamergate dollar like a chump.

Elvis Santana (stevie), Friday, 13 May 2016 19:49 (ten years ago)

so i ended up falling in this alex jones hole because of corgan and anyway i found this crazy ass sequence where he went on a reverie to The Doors and I ended up making a negativland type LA Woman/Alex Jones thing....the last 2 minutes when it's just him is stunning radio

http://soundcloud.com/matthew-lee-helgeson/mojowars-feat-al3x-j0n3s-the-d00rs

rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 16 May 2016 19:48 (ten years ago)

Love this - great job! Rich lung cleanse baritone, just like Morrison.

BlackIronPrison, Monday, 16 May 2016 19:54 (ten years ago)

the power of DNA force

rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 16 May 2016 21:06 (ten years ago)

billy corgan has a career?

Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Monday, 16 May 2016 21:40 (ten years ago)

SP sorta flies under the radar these days but they sell out every place they play. granted, those are 2,000-5,000 seat theaters, but he's doing pretty good for himself. fwiw, this latest run of In Plainsong shows was the best he's sounded in years.

flappy bird, Monday, 16 May 2016 22:30 (ten years ago)

so basically, he is at the same stage of his career now as the guy from styx was in 1992

Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Monday, 16 May 2016 22:47 (ten years ago)

Sounds approx right.

hardcore dilettante, Monday, 16 May 2016 23:21 (ten years ago)

Chris Cornell is doing the same... Pearl Jam are the only contemporaries of his that are still playing arenas & stadiums.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 00:12 (ten years ago)

m@tt this is awesome! have you tweeted this yet? can i tweet it?

a goon shaped tool (some dude), Tuesday, 17 May 2016 01:04 (ten years ago)

Yeah go ahead and tweet it anyone and thanks!

rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 May 2016 11:39 (ten years ago)

Chris Cornell just played the Royal Albert Hall in London, which is pretty prestigious tbh, and Soundgarden headlined Hyde Park a few years back (though it did not sell out, and they were support to Sabbath there two summers ago)

it's getting ott in here / so take off all your clothes (stevie), Tuesday, 17 May 2016 15:31 (ten years ago)

SP just did three nights at the Beacon Theater in NYC, I saw them at the Lincoln Theater in DC, all were sold out... i think they're operating at the same level rn

flappy bird, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 17:08 (ten years ago)

i tweeted it

goole, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 18:07 (ten years ago)

chris cornell has a valid and estimable solo career

akm, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 05:08 (ten years ago)

eight months pass...

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Billy-Corgan-surprises-Laredoans-with-impromptu-10887693.php

"I must believe that my charm was not in my ass." (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 29 January 2017 06:15 (nine years ago)

one month passes...

I just watched Author: The JT Leroy story on Amazon and did not know how involved Corgan was with the whole saga!

Better yet I can now confirm actual audio of a phone message in which Billy refers to himself in third person as "the Corganator"

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 01:04 (nine years ago)

oh my god that is excellent news

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 01:05 (nine years ago)


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