Anyway, my other thought was that in terms of cultural roles Bowie and Prince both occupied a similar space that was safe and inviting for freaks and weirdos. If you felt like an outcast for whatever reason - because of your race, sexuality, or just general interests - these were successful, huge artists that created a cultural space that welcomed you. Nowadays everyone is a "freak" - Miley Cyrus performs as a horny tree or whatever - and the straight-laced monoculture is less and less of a thing, so I'm not sure there's anyone playing a similar role today, the social climate is just different.
― recommended sex webinar (contenderizer), Friday, 22 April 2016 17:37 (eight years ago) link
This morning's shuttle ride I considered the most incongruous fictional cover versions of Prince songs: Pearl Jam doing "Delirious," Eric Clapton's "Alphabet City," Jason Derulo's "Controversy."
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 April 2016 17:39 (eight years ago) link
Many xposts:
I don't think you really need to look any further than the Black Album versus Lovesexy for the perfect example of Prince's struggles between morality and hedonism.
― Austin, Friday, 22 April 2016 17:44 (eight years ago) link
Re: his later in life religious stuff, does anyone know the timing of his rebirth or embrace of JW, especially surrounding the death of his child and brief marriage to Mayte?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, April 22, 2016 1:32 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I recall that Larry Graham is to blame, but it was post-emancipation I think. Wasn't it around the time of Rave un2 the Joy Fantastic?
― Οὖτις, Friday, April 22, 2016 1:34 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
After Rave Un2 and before Rainbow Children
― scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Friday, 22 April 2016 17:46 (eight years ago) link
As for incongruous actual Prince covers, most of these are shit, but Richard Thompson's "Kiss" is amusing:
http://coverlaydown.com/2016/04/rip-prince-june-7-1958-april-21-2016/
― rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Friday, 22 April 2016 17:55 (eight years ago) link
I like RTs kiss a lot. His hit me baby one more time is even better actually
― scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Friday, 22 April 2016 17:57 (eight years ago) link
xxxxxp I'm dreading the possibility that Gaga will do the same with Prince as she did with Bowie earlier this year.
― an opportunity thick enough to taste (snoball), Friday, 22 April 2016 17:59 (eight years ago) link
my money is on them having alicia keys do it.
― dc, Friday, 22 April 2016 18:01 (eight years ago) link
https://www.instagram.com/p/BEe-jTBwa1O/
― sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Friday, 22 April 2016 18:04 (eight years ago) link
I'm a little surprised to not hear sly stone as a reference. I associate the two for some reason
― Heez, Friday, 22 April 2016 18:05 (eight years ago) link
would rather the grammy-type tributes be handled by the likes of janelle monae / miguel. obvious choices but good ones.
xxp
― dc, Friday, 22 April 2016 18:05 (eight years ago) link
i will only accept D'Angelo.
― sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Friday, 22 April 2016 18:08 (eight years ago) link
as long as we're posting ?uesto prince stories, this is my favehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfhoI6iX5ng
― ulysses, Friday, 22 April 2016 18:13 (eight years ago) link
Prince's debt to Sly is blazingly clear, in the bands he formed to back him up, his vocal delivery, his keyboard playing, his general formal assimilation of multiple styles. I would think most fans are aware of this.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 22 April 2016 18:15 (eight years ago) link
yeah, seems like if you're going to point to any precursor it'd be sly. did they ever meet? if they did it probably would've been awkward.
― tylerw, Friday, 22 April 2016 18:17 (eight years ago) link
I don't think so, Sly was awol/coked out of his mind for most of Prince's career
― Οὖτις, Friday, 22 April 2016 18:23 (eight years ago) link
found this funny story ... One day Prince comes home [from the recording studio] all excited because he met Chaka Khan. She called up and asked, “Is Sly [Stone] there?” Prince happened to answer the phone and he said, “Yeah, baby, this is Sly. Do you want to come down?” About two hours later — this is like 2 in the morning — she opens the door and sees Prince. She says, “Where’s Sly?” He goes, “Ha, ha, ha. That was me.” I guess she cussed him out.
― tylerw, Friday, 22 April 2016 18:32 (eight years ago) link
gave up and threw on the superlong version of I Would Die 4 U
halp i am drowning in str8 fire
― scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Friday, 22 April 2016 18:33 (eight years ago) link
i told a jokeabout the woman who asked her lover"why is your organ so small"he replied "i didn't knowi was playingin a cathedral."vicki didn't laugh at all...
― ulysses, Friday, 22 April 2016 18:37 (eight years ago) link
oh man that 20+ minute i would die 4 u
― tylerw, Friday, 22 April 2016 18:38 (eight years ago) link
Kind of quietly impressed with the number of folks I know who wore purple today without any kind of dumb groupthink mobfule organizing.
― Three Word Username, Friday, 22 April 2016 18:38 (eight years ago) link
― tylerw, Friday, April 22, 2016 2:38 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
with friends like these who needs Space Ritual?
― scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Friday, 22 April 2016 18:45 (eight years ago) link
Back in 1997, my friend was playing in a cover band in Alabama. Prince and his band happened to be in the audience and joined them on stage to play Raspberry Beret. A huge star doesn't have to get on stage with a cheesy cover band, but Prince did. My buddy described him as very gracious and generous.
Here's a pic from that night with my friend standing next to him:
https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/t31.0-8/13041408_10209433808020794_4206524429507391042_o.jpg
― Darin, Friday, 22 April 2016 18:52 (eight years ago) link
best copy i could find -- beautiful acoustic version of "Reflection"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dz9sUt8V_yA
― bodacious ignoramus, Friday, 22 April 2016 19:01 (eight years ago) link
1997 was a terrible time for sideburns
― ejemplo (crüt), Friday, 22 April 2016 19:14 (eight years ago) link
another local Minneapolis legend (at least to the Takoma crowd), Peter Lang posted this:
My late friend and producer Jim (James Hauck) was a friend of Chris Moon, who was Princes first manager and recorder/engineer/producer. I met young Mr. Nelson at Moon's studio when Moon had teamed up with a gent whose name was Chase Walker, and together they started a booking/ production company called Moon Walker Productions with the idea of making others as well as me famous.
Prince was there almost every time I went over. He was a nice quiet respectable kid. I met him several times over the ensuing years, and he was incredibly stand-offish if he didn't know you, but he warmed up quickly when he figured out that he did know you.
My spin on Prince is that he could have gone coastal and left us all behind. But he didn't. He built here (Minneapolis). He lived here. He worked here. He recorded here, and he did his videos here. He broke a lot of Minnesota artists into the big time, and invested a huge amount of time and money in our local talent, and our service industries. I met him on a number of occasions in Video Post houses working on his stuff when I was producing animation. Although I am not a great fan of his genre, I respect it, and I respected him a great deal more for remaining both humble, and loyal to his friends, family, and community. He was a big shot who did not behave like a big shot. He has always had my great respect for that. It is a tragedy to be loosing so many luminaries in such a short amount of time. If you love their music, go see it,. Life is short, and death is but a breath away for us all.
“To die, to sleep -To sleep, perchance to dream - ay, there's the rub,For in this sleep of death what dreams may come...”― William Shakespeare,
― rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 April 2016 19:16 (eight years ago) link
― Οὖτις, Friday, April 22, 2016
Because Hendrix is still more a figure in rock mag mythos, Sly gets mentioned less as an influence. Besides, to my ears Santana was a bigger influence on Prince than Hendrix.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 April 2016 19:18 (eight years ago) link
this won't probably mean much to the non-Minnesotans (if you don't know Sid Hartman*) but anyway this is fucking priceless
"Hey Prince! Prince! Hey Prince!"
"...Hello Mr. Hartman...how are you?"
http://espn.go.com/blog/minnesota-vikings/post/_/id/18664/that-day-when-prince-met-sid-hartman
*in short, legendarily cranky Minnesota sport columnist, still writing at age 96, literally covered the first Super Bowl, etc, actually has worked for the paper for 84 years because he was a newsie when he was a kid
― rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 April 2016 19:22 (eight years ago) link
The Muppets Tonight clip, before he goes into Starfish & Coffee, shows himdoing some Hee Haw schtick in a country-fried voice that is so funny, and he's obv having a ball
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, April 22, 2016 12:57 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I think it's safe to say this was the only time in his life when Prince wore overalls.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 22 April 2016 19:23 (eight years ago) link
matos piece is up on mtv.com
― scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Friday, 22 April 2016 19:25 (eight years ago) link
Jesse Johnson recorded a song called "Crazaay" with Sly in like 85 or something. That's the closest association as such I know of.
― veronica moser, Friday, 22 April 2016 19:26 (eight years ago) link
ha -- I just mentioned "Crazay" on Facebook.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 April 2016 19:33 (eight years ago) link
really love hearing all these minnesotan anecdotes but they're making me homesick
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Friday, 22 April 2016 19:34 (eight years ago) link
Big time
― scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Friday, 22 April 2016 19:35 (eight years ago) link
I hear Sly's influence all over "Lovesexy".
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 22 April 2016 19:36 (eight years ago) link
― rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 April 2016 19:22 (12 minutes ago) Permalink
Prince was Sid's guy before he was your guy
― chr1sb3singer, Friday, 22 April 2016 19:37 (eight years ago) link
Besides, to my ears Santana was a bigger influence on Prince than Hendrix.
nah, if we're talking about his electric guitar work, Prince's #1 ref point is Eddie Hazel
xp
― Οὖτις, Friday, 22 April 2016 19:38 (eight years ago) link
Also I can't believe that when Prince & Sid met at the Super Bowl the whole thing didn't explode in a fiery cataclysm that wrote the word MINNEAPOLIS in a giant smoke cloud
― chr1sb3singer, Friday, 22 April 2016 19:38 (eight years ago) link
for one moment prince was only the second biggest diva in the room
― rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 April 2016 19:40 (eight years ago) link
Candy Dulfer did "Purple Rain" last night at a show in Germany:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1Id0qmDYpg
― T.L.O.P.son (Phil D.), Friday, 22 April 2016 19:52 (eight years ago) link
/Besides, to my ears Santana was a bigger influence on Prince than Hendrix./nah, if we're talking about his electric guitar work, Prince's #1 ref point is Eddie Hazelxp
This thread is tl;dr until the weekend, so I want to ask if anyone posted that video interview of his friend talking about his charitable works upthread?
― Freakshow At The Barn Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 22 April 2016 19:52 (eight years ago) link
Eddie Hazel no doubt but that astringent tone is all Santana.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 April 2016 20:01 (eight years ago) link
btw check out how fake Prince this is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHadudeqP4
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 April 2016 20:02 (eight years ago) link
whoah never even heard of this before
― Οὖτις, Friday, 22 April 2016 20:04 (eight years ago) link
I wonder whether timing was a problem. Fall '86 was a bit late for floppy hats and colors and dance troupes (summer '85 nah). Also: it's just not very good fake Prince.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 April 2016 20:07 (eight years ago) link
Paul Westerberg: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/paul-westerberg-remembers-prince-i-cant-think-of-anyone-better-20160422?page=2
I remember a little scuffle broke out in front of the stage one night and Prince said, "Stop fighting, you'll mess up your clothes."
lol see what I mean? comedy
― Οὖτις, Friday, 22 April 2016 20:14 (eight years ago) link
I like Tuomas' word - "mischief" - that's the perfect word for the wicked little grin he'd give
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 22 April 2016 20:16 (eight years ago) link
ha yes
― Οὖτις, Friday, 22 April 2016 20:19 (eight years ago) link
I just listened to half of Purple Rain with my 7 and 4 year old, full blast, all of us just bouncing the fuck around the room and pretending to play every instrument. and once it was over somehow it ended up in a 'jam session' with me on guitar, one kid on 'drums' and the other on a variety of harmonicas and other noisemakers and, you know, even if they don't feel that sucker punch to the gut that the song Purple Rain always gives me, even when Prince was ALIVE, the fact that we could all just spin out of this music recorded some 30 years ago into our own exhilarating rock noises basically until we got too tired to do it any more somehow makes me feel better.
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 22 April 2016 20:21 (eight years ago) link