Bob Dylan: The Bootleg Series

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So basically ... a reissue of the reissue?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 April 2016 17:22 (ten years ago)

yeah

tylerw, Monday, 18 April 2016 17:26 (ten years ago)

When originally released in 2007, The Traveling Wilburys Collection debuted at #1 in the U.K. and six other countries

Yeah, but each one of those countries started a band.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 18 April 2016 17:28 (ten years ago)

xpost basically, with streams and downloads (very handy for me)

dow, Monday, 18 April 2016 17:30 (ten years ago)

Yep, we remember...
The Travelling Wilburys are number one on the album chart!! (This is not a very old thread)

Mark G, Monday, 18 April 2016 20:21 (ten years ago)

(It is now..)

Mark G, Monday, 18 April 2016 20:22 (ten years ago)

one month passes...

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/20/movies/da-pennebaker-interview-bob-dylan-documentary-dont-look-back.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Farts&action=click&contentCollection=arts®ion=rank&module=package&version=highlights&contentPlacement=1&pgtype=sectionfront

Pennebaker interview in association with an exhibit at the Morrison Hotel Gallery in SoHo.

Did you want to have a preliminary conversation with Dylan?

We arranged to meet in a bar down in the Village with Bobby Neuwirth, who was his road manager. We sat and talked, and then he said, “I’ve got this idea for a film where I take a whole lot of sheets of paper and write lyrics for a song, and hold them up as the lyrics come up in the song and then I just toss them away.” And I said, “That’s a fantastic idea.” So we brought along about 50 shirt cardboards, and that’s how we did the whole thing in the alleyway [“Subterranean Homesick Blues”].

curmudgeon, Friday, 20 May 2016 14:20 (ten years ago)

i just rewatched Dont Look Back, i think it's my favorite movie

tylerw, Friday, 20 May 2016 22:22 (ten years ago)

HMMMM, don't think any of this has ever been bootlegged before.
http://www.collectorsmusicreviews.com/dylan-bob/hot-new-dylan-releases-on-rattlesnake/
http://cdn.collectorsmusicreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/dylan-soon4-300x298.jpg
http://cdn.collectorsmusicreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/dylan-soon41-300x251.jpg
‘After The Empire’ is a 16 track studio outtakes CD of ideas that were recorded after the ‘Empire Burlesque’ album but were ultimately unreleased. This is made up of mostly new Dylan originals with the exception of one cover version. The running time of the CD is just over 70 minutes.
that is some real good bootleg cover art.

tylerw, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 22:22 (ten years ago)

loving the Seinfeldian smirk

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 1 June 2016 09:09 (ten years ago)

"Why don't they call it Roundtine?"

dow, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 15:00 (ten years ago)

needs "you know, stadows" word balloon

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 15:58 (ten years ago)

may as well plug this thing i wrote here: http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/1157-beyond-the-bootlegs-bob-dylans-unreleased-holy-grails/
i've already been contacted by a "super collector" setting me straight on some of this ...

tylerw, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 16:00 (ten years ago)

also, a major announcement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFyP9JjmZ80

tylerw, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 16:04 (ten years ago)

Awww, I don't wanna enable Adobe---what is it, huh?

dow, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 19:21 (ten years ago)

Also, what did the "super collector" say? Quite a fun read, anyway.

dow, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 19:26 (ten years ago)

you need adobe to watch a youtube clip? anyway, it's kind of a dumb joke about a forthcoming bootleg series being "The Bathroom Tapes."

supercollector was extremely skeptical about the existence of a Jim Dickinson-produced Time Out Of Mind, says the JWH outtakes are amazing, says there are "thousands of hours" of tapes from the Rundown Era (1977-81), says the (mostly) unreleased Bromberg sessions from the early 90s are "beautiful." I asked him if he could send me the JWH alternates and he said: "Unfortunately I cannot."

tylerw, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 19:45 (ten years ago)

Aww. Thanks!

dow, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 19:47 (ten years ago)

Nice piece tyler!

niels, Thursday, 2 June 2016 14:19 (ten years ago)

thanks!

tylerw, Thursday, 2 June 2016 14:28 (ten years ago)

Nice piece, Tyler! Have you ever happened across any outtakes from Masked and Anonymous? The 4 songs on the soundtrack were incredible performances... Apparently they recorded 20 or so? and I've never been able to find any evidence of them.

hardcore dilettante, Thursday, 2 June 2016 23:14 (ten years ago)

Yeah I've read about that stuff, never come across any unreleased things -- some info here: http://www.bjorner.com/DSN24025%20-%202002%20Summer%20sessions.htm
I do really like the songs on the soundtrack, that was a killer band. Guess that is the only time "dirt road blues" has been performed, which isn't that exciting but it's a little exciting...

tylerw, Thursday, 2 June 2016 23:53 (ten years ago)

two weeks pass...

In light of Tyler's awesome article, thought I would see if anyone round these parts has had a listen to this newly unearthed 80s material that's popped up in the last few days? Haven't got to the sessions with Tom Petty yet but this other stuff from 1985 is great!

It's a total dark period for me as a Dylan listener, up until now I've pretty much stopped at Infidels then started up again with Oh Mercy, but I'm enjoying this new stuff a lot more than I thought I would going in. Obviously unfinished demos / rehearsals, very stripped back compared to the other mid-80s stuff I've heard and it sounds like he's having fun

Windsor Davies, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 21:19 (nine years ago)

nothing amazing/revelatory on either of these new things, but both are fun listens nonetheless. dylan straining for the high notes on "under the boardwalk" is hilarious.
couple of things on after the empire that could've been developed into good tunes, but I get the feeling it's all pretty much off the cuff/on the spot. definitely seems to be enjoying himself...

tylerw, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 21:45 (nine years ago)

four weeks pass...

Got the two volume Cutting Edge v cheap recently, the revelation for me has been that first take of Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window, definitely prefer it to the Band version - Dylan's singing seems much more passionate, for one thing. Lyrics an example of that old Dylan prescience - lines like "With his businesslike anger and his bloodhounds that kneel" and "While his genocide fools and his friends rearrange/ The religion of little tin women/That backs up their views but your face is so bruised/Come on out the dark is beginning" seems to anticipate Trump (I guess it's partly a song about tyrants)

Foster Twelvetrees (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 13:40 (nine years ago)

two months pass...

yow

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/premieres/bob-dylan-plots-massive-36-disc-set-of-1966-live-recordings-w442099

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 14:57 (nine years ago)

haha, pretty crazy ... i do want to hear it all though. at least once. that Paris show should be interesting!

tylerw, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 15:00 (nine years ago)

Haha... never change those EU copyright laws

niels, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 15:05 (nine years ago)

seems that they're putting the "real" royal albert hall gig out as a 2CD set too ...
i do miss the curatorial aspect of the bootleg series, but i also am not going to complain about getting the whole damn thing.

tylerw, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 15:09 (nine years ago)

Ha — I just posted that to the "shit that looks like an Onion article" thread.

dinnerboat, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 15:10 (nine years ago)

http://img.wennermedia.com/760-width/rs-dylan-24fd506f-c65d-45bc-a9c4-4342fe35725d.jpg

tylerw, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 15:16 (nine years ago)

form the rolling stone article -- this is wrong:
The title of this release corrects a previously released official bootleg from 1998 that identified a Manchester show – the infamous "Judas" performance – as having taken place at Royal Albert Hall
obviously confusing since they called it "the royal albert hall show" in quotes, but they knew the show took place in manchester.

tylerw, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 15:17 (nine years ago)

Not optimistic about the pricing on this. If the 18-disc thing went for $600 (granted, with 45s, a piece of film, and a bag of gravel from the road he crashed his motorcycle on), this'll probably be...$1000? Ugh.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 15:41 (nine years ago)

I thank in advance whoever is gonna boil this down to 4 CDs of the most killer shit

I wish you could see my home. It's... it's so... exciting (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 15:43 (nine years ago)

they're saying it'll retail for around $150 -- think the packaging is going to be more bare bones, less bells n whistles (which is fine by me)

tylerw, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 15:46 (nine years ago)

Yeah, that sounds fairly reasonable. I would've thought this was the opportunity to release Eat the Document, but apparently not.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 15:51 (nine years ago)

yeah, would be great if they stitched together the performance footage into a cohesive concert film! probably will happen sometime?

tylerw, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 15:52 (nine years ago)

Remember thinking Eat the Document was kind of bad when I saw it decades ago on PBS, but still would be interesting to see again.

Berberian Begins at Home (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 16:17 (nine years ago)

"While doing the archival research for The Cutting Edge 1965-1966: The Bootleg Series Vol. 12, last year's box set of Dylan's mid-Sixties studio sessions, we were continually struck by how great his 1966 live recordings really are," Adam Block, president of Legacy Recordings, said in a statement.

He pretend continued. "I mean, you'd think if this stuff was really so good, someone would have told me. Who did you say his backing band was again?"

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 16:20 (nine years ago)

http://www.ultimatemovierankings.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Claude-Rains-Casablanca.png

Berberian Begins at Home (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 16:25 (nine years ago)

I thank in advance whoever is gonna boil this down to 4 CDs of the most killer shit

― I wish you could see my home. It's... it's so... exciting (Jon not Jon)

This ^^^
Although I don't even know if I'd even buy a 4-disc distilled version of this. Feel I've got enough mid-60s Dylan.

Duke, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 18:44 (nine years ago)

I'm still waiting on hearing the last box set, I don't have the money to pay for that shit :(

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 18:51 (nine years ago)

Likewise I still need to hear the last box set. I am really in an old-man phase of waiting to buy this stuff (because if I stream or whatever I'll listen once and never really grapple with it), but knowing at the same time I'll probably never buy it cos my money needs to go on more boring things.

Eyeball Kicks, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 22:31 (nine years ago)

hold on now! After tylerw's article linked upthread, he got some static: supercollector was extremely skeptical about the existence of a Jim Dickinson-produced Time Out Of Mind, b-but in that previously linked Stone piece from early March: Chaiken has only begun to dip into the hundreds of hours of raw Dylan recording sessions, but he's already come across a completely different version of 1997's Time Out of Mind produced by pianist Jim Dickinson, so there!

dow, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 22:55 (nine years ago)

woah....that would be intriguing, time out of mind has such a lanois sound to it, it would seem like a completely different album

Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 22:57 (nine years ago)

At least they agree on worthiness (also existence) of John Wesley Harding outtakes.

dow, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 22:58 (nine years ago)

it's circular dow -- I got my info from that RS article, after which the supercollector got in touch with me, said it doesn't exist. chaiken then told me that RS got things mixed up -- there are different mixes, unreleased songs and jam sessions that Jim was a part of, but the production duties were all handled by Daniel Lanois.

tylerw, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 22:58 (nine years ago)

Close enough!

dow, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 23:00 (nine years ago)

That's what I usually look to prev. unreleased Dylan legit & boots for: more songs, not more versions.

dow, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 23:07 (nine years ago)

But I'll take different mixes, esp. by J.D., and jams too.

dow, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 23:09 (nine years ago)


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