Weezer -- Classic or Dud?

xp funny how poor brian didn't even want thought i knew on the record, and complains about it in the liner notes of the album itself. must've been sad to have tried for years to get a song on a record and then have it be a botch released against your will. (then again, i'm sure he's psyched for his well-earned credits on la girlz and endless bummer!)

my heart songs is great. i like red album the most of the post-green LPs

Just listened through the White Album again and it's very sunny and I feel excessively good about it right now. I love the little semi-motifs from L.A. Girlz that crop up in California Kids and Do You Wanna Get High?. It all holds together so well.

http://imgur.com/UfR8eLR

same, small, new england, farm, town

oops

http://i.imgur.com/UfR8eLR.jpg

good interview here - http://n.pr/23CsP3E

thanks for linking that ^ ... good listen

feel pretty sad for him when I hear him obsessing over Metacritic scores

Rivers is an absolutely fascinating psych case

He was on Song Exploder a couple weeks ago talking about his songwriting process:

http://songexploder.net/weezer

Uh, now that I'm listening to the NPR thing, I guess the content may be pretty similar.

https://vine.co/v/MTI3l0AKlDh

was talking about that in-depth song interview last week, realized how utterly depressing it was to hear about spreadsheet songwriting

Saw them a couple nights ago thanks to a friend with free tix - the awkward medley-ing of older songs was NAGL (eg, playing all of "Beverly Hills" but only sections of "The Good Life" and "Surf Wax America"). Not sure I've ever had a faster pivot from embarrassment/rage to joy as I did when Rivers started singing Drake and reading out tweets about the show displayed on the venue screen (including at least one icky one), then pulled up a keyboard on started on "El Scorcho."

also at one point he paused the show to read out the full lyrics to the chorus of the (not terribly inspiring) newer song they were about to play, for some reason

like to think that Weezer permanently broke up after Pinkerton and that every album after that = Cuomo going solo and sucking but it isn't so

The best Weezer song of all time is the one where Rivers Cuomo just lists the age of consent of every Japanese prefecture

— stefan heck (@boring_as_heck) April 26, 2017

Bush did 9/11

— Rivers Cuomo (@RiversCuomo) June 20, 2017

So... there's a new album!

*fart*

Ha!

https://vimeo.com/249694026

lmao that's really well done

woulda never thought to call weezer "nirvana in a major key" but there you are

Not bad, though this is probably my favorite "Poppy" take on Smells Like Teen Spirit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnAgMvSJmcA

That first one sounds much more like Third Eye Blind

The Black Album is the worst music I've ever heard in my life

I'd say "worst music I've ever heard in my life" is maybe underselling it a tad but practically every track makes me want to listen to something else. "Can't Knock the Hustle" is just a really bad modern Cake song. "Living in LA" rips a hook from The Police. "Piece of Cake" is like Dukes of Stratosphear with a lobotomy. And so on. I can't believe Rivers is 50 years old and still writing songs like this; I've never encountered a successful musician with less to say.

I keep seeing Weezer everywhere lately, and it feels like they weirdly might be like...the most popular rock band for non-music nerds right now? Along with....Queen again? I didn't realise they were classroom-instruments-and-barbershop-skit-on-Fallon big. Music's weird, man.

Didn't they just release an all covers album on the heels of Africa?

they were and are garbage

the white album is so fucking good, it's a shame rivers is like... an extremely cynical songwriter?

Who would have thought they would be the last (?) '90s radio rock band standing

Pearl Jam and the Foos still going.

Dare I say it, half of the Black Album is fine. Byzantine especially:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWzThKlk2Ac

PJ isn't making many albums (especially widely popular ones), are they? Foo Fighters probably are, idk, I always forget how many people seem to like them.

PJ pretty consistently make records every 3-5 years and never took a hiatus like Weezer/Rivers did. The records are definitely the secondary consideration compared to touring, though. (By a lot, at this point.)

I never understood why Weezer had this sort of eternal popularity on the backs of two decent albums instead of say, Everclear

Rivers being sort of a troll probably has something to do with it

god i had forgotten about everclear

So Much For the Afterglow is better than both of Weez's "classic" albums in my opinion

i liked that album at the time but can't remember anything about it.

worth revisiting, pretty perfect record

Everything Will Be Alright was about half ok.
White Album was actually solid.
2 or 3 songs on Pacific Daydream were ok.

Teal/Black are garbage - zero jams. RIP

the singles and the reviews made me expect that the black album would have a lot more actively terrible musical decisions on it than it did but unfortunately the rest of the album was mostly just bland and poorly executed pop rock, meaning it wasn't even as entertaining of a trainwreck as raditude was

i guess it's a bit disappointing that rivers is back to following his worst impulses after three albums that ranged from relatively pleasant (ewbaite, pacific daydream) to quite good (white) but there's really so little reason to have expected anything at all from this band these days so i can't complain at all

I never understood why Weezer had this sort of eternal popularity on the backs of two decent albums instead of say, Everclear

Feel like this is 100% the fault of people my age +/- two years (class of 2000) who were the core of the backlash to the Pinkerton backlash.

(class of 2000)

h.s. or college(?)

Pinkerton University

lol

Everclear's '90s singles all sound like boomer-grunge to me. No weirdness. No sense of humor. I've tried to get into them many times, but they're way too VH1 imo.

always thought of them as a grunge/power-pop hybrid with an emphasis on the latter

It's funny how their career after their third album has seemed mostly like an exercise in pissing off as much of their old fanbase as much as possible.