shifts in popular opinion you have noticed

the new amy winehouse documentary has gotten quite a bit of attention

Her impact was so huge and underrated at the time, I feel like she was this multivalent icon in the sense of having also impacted style and such in a way that has probably only recently been replaced by Lana Del Rey

there's always a lane for fake-motown. i'm thinking of ceelo, but his big hits were a while ago i guess.

winehouse seems the exception that proves the rule imo
i kinda forgot about leon bridges and i think anyone under 40 has too but maybe i'm wrong?

Is Sharon Jones very popular? Of course I know not Winehouse levels.

everything about Winehouse's career is sad and pathetic, including her music but also her whole living-out-a-cliche-with-tragic-results thing

there's always a lane for fake-motown

isn't this Adele's lane

everyone loves it when British ladies do Motown, personally I find it incredibly boring but I feel like there's always been at least one of these at any given time over the last few decades

Did Duffy ever reach the US?

Billy Duffy, guitarist from the Cult?

winehouse's music isn't sad and pathetic, wtf

sorry, that was a stupid stupid post. xp

xps Adele doesn't really fill that lane any more, nothing on the new album evokes Motown to me. Her lane now seems to be:: Elton John, if he only sung ballads.

everyone loves it when British ladies do Motown, personally I find it incredibly boring but I feel like there's always been at least one of these at any given time over the last few decades

― Οὖτις, Thursday, April 7, 2016 1:38 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

adele is supremely boring and bad btw

Sharon Jones is hella popular and is the queen imo but is something of an outlier
She just toured with Derek Trucks iirc which is the right audience to get her paid i guess but there was a brief moment when she was playing with prince where i thought i was gonna see like "ne yo feat. sharon jones" and that woulda made me happy

Duffy. See they are even more 'British ladies doing Motown' than you think - and she really was doing Motown.

... I'll try that in English next time.

where IS mari wilson these days?

we were fond of dusty here in the states. and petula.

Adele is what you get when music execs want to find the next amy winehouse but also want all the edges sanded off, even the ones that don't involve anything bad or self destructive. She does seem like a pretty charming person, i guess.

When i was 19 in 1988 i moved to Philadelphia and after I got a job I went to 3rd Street Jazz every week and bought a Can album until I had them all. I'd never heard them! I don't know what I read that made me do that. They had every album on vinyl there too.

Krautrock was played constantly on WXPN from the late 70s (and presumably earlier, but I wasn't listening before then) through the station's big change in (I guess) the early 90s (and the death of Diaspar). I never loved most of it, and was surprised to see all the post-internet online enthusing about it, maybe especially here on ILM.

I find late teens/early 20s are more interested in talking about general technological changes. A couple of them were completely amazed that I was still using a typewriter to write papers in college.

i think adele could make a really great album. she's got the voice and the drama. the latest album didn't sound exciting to me but i am so not her audience. she is really inspiring to people.

it's lol u old i suppose but while interviewing for interns, one of the kids i spoke too said he was a fan of the oldies: LL Cool J, Duran Duran, George Michaels

whenever i hear an adele song i totally get the appeal, she does have the voice and the drama yeah.

I kinda liked the first Adele album. Haven't listened to it in a while.

i keep expecting that i will figure out who adele is

Who she is REALLY?

*writes thinkpiece*

everything about Winehouse's career is sad and pathetic, including her music but also her whole living-out-a-cliche-with-tragic-results thing

― Οὖτις, Thursday, 7 April 2016 17:37 (30 minutes ago) Permalink

Pvmic also posts very much RONG

Amy winehouse was great bc the retro trappings were just trappings, she sang in a thorough modern way w un-affected contemporary slang and a sense of real personality. Larger than life, a real star IMO

lol maybe i don't know that much about adele either because i thought this really terrible song called "me myself and i" that i keep hearing on the radio with this awful corny "i've got that fi-uh in my sou-uhl" enunciation was adele singing the chorus but apparently it is some albanian-american singer named bebe rexha?????

the only thing Winehouse and her music evokes from me is pity

in a "I am sorry you bought into playing this role" kind of way

Have you seen the documentary?

i don't think shakes is keen to let any facts get in the way of a perfectly good opinion

amy winehouse's music was good

Amy Winehouse made one very good album, almost entirely produced by Mark Ronson, and one really nowhere near as good album, produced by a bunch of other people.

They also had a gigantic, inescapable hit song a few summers ago so if popular opinion has shifted it would probably only be in a seasonal kind of way where last year's flavor isn't hot right now.

Guess we won't know until the next DP album comes out in 2019 or whatever, but I wonder if it's going to be anywhere near the big event album that RAM was. I don't think I've ever seen an album that inspired so much reaction so quickly.

I heard get lucky in a shop the other day

today I ate a crêpe with some coffee

Amy Winehouse made one very good album, almost entirely produced by Mark Ronson, and one really nowhere near as good album, produced by a bunch of other people.

― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, April 7, 2016 1:43 PM (29 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

??? I think Frank is just as good if not better as Back to Black and there were some contributing producers but the project was def directed an helmed by Salaam Remi.

She also wrote her songs, you see her writing on acoustic in the movie. So trying to frame it as all Ronson is straight up bullshit.

xpost
flavor of the decade muse says: "nope, best to hang it up while you're WAY WAY WAY ahead". Sorry folks, don't kill the messenger

I think Frank is just as good if not better as Back to Black

Ha ha, OK then.

She also wrote her songs, you see her writing on acoustic in the movie

Would you want to listen to a bunch of acoustic guitar Amy Winehouse songs? Cause I fucking wouldn't.

Amy winehouse was great bc the retro trappings were just trappings, she sang in a thorough modern way w un-affected contemporary slang and a sense of real personality. Larger than life, a real star IMO

super falling star

I heard get lucky in a shop the other day

― Kevin Ageusia Smith (wins), Thursday, April 7, 2016 2:45 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i heard "doin it right" in starbucks. i explained to my mom who panda bear was and how in 2004 i would never have expected panda bear to be featured on a hit song, much less one played at starbucks. she cared about this less than i have ever seen anyone care about anything.

oh ffs, a bunch of people write their music on one instrument while working out melodies/harmonies/lyrics and then work with producers and others to do the instrumentation. the fact a song starts with vocals + guitar means nothing xxp

there's zero wrong with using producers or contributors or whatever, i just brought up the fact that you see her writing songs because there seemed to be the suggestion that she was some sort of puppet of ronson's

yeah, I was responding to the "would you listen to acoustic guitar Winehouse songs" comment

it seemed to be of the "she may have written songs on guitar, but that doesn't count but who wants to listen to that"