shifts in popular opinion you have noticed

I don't like Jeff Beck, either. Of the big British guitar players, he's the one I have the least use for, including Clapton.

Ok I put on some Enya and this shit is still awful, possibly the most unpleasant music I have ever heard.

Truth rules. even if you hate Jeff Beck. it's just a great album.

It makes me feel like someone is tightly holding a silk sheet over my face. xp

I think I started a thread once where I rated Truth over Zep I (and I'm a huge Zep fan).

is popular opinion shifting away from Led Zeppelin? I feel like about the time grunge happened, Zep's profile was higher than ever, and then over the years, they kind of faded into the background again.

Faces' Four Guys Walk Into A Bar... box is essential; can't say the same about the individual albums (except maybe A Nod Is As Good As A Wink).

Every Picture and Gasoline Alley are great, too, but Stewart basically never gave a shit if he was taken seriously or not. He never even made a clumsy/fumbling/self-conscious late-career attempt to get back to his early '70s peaks.

the crematorium where both my grandfather and later my great-grandmother were cremated in the early 00s had the title track from Watermark piped in as background music during the cremation; which seemed kind of odd. I suppose you could choose specific music if you wanted to, but Enya was the default?

Yardbirds stuff + Truth the only Jeff Beck i own. and need to own. kids should get into the Yardbirds. post-Clapton Yardbirds anyway. best band.

Ha, are you young enough that precocious girls from my high school cohort could have been your teachers?

oh nah, they're about the same age as my aunt (70s), and in fact engage with enya in roughly the same way i think (all the other music they listen to is classical and abba, which i think informs what they enjoy about enya)

and yet ABBA still hasn't become a cool favorite

In America.

But, hey, it's an American thread.

Truth rules. even if you hate Jeff Beck. it's just a great album.

― scott seward, Tuesday, April 5, 2016 4:23 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I wouldn't say I hate Jeff Beck (certainly not his playing in the Yardbirds), but this is otm. I love Truth and haven't been the least bit tempted to dig into any of his other shit (except Beck-Ola which has mostly the same band, but is much worse).

"is popular opinion shifting away from Led Zeppelin?"

if all i carried in my store were zep, floyd, and beatles records i swear i could make a decent living.

he's a hokey maudlin goofball to some people now

I've always kind of felt this way about Tom Waits but felt like I was very much in the minority and was missing something that everyone else apparently saw.

I am part of that minority.

But, hey, it's an American thread.

we're an american thread!
we're coming to your town!
we'll help you party it down!

Some of the circa-Truth live sets are said to be Beck Group at its best, when he had Waller and Wood in there (with Rod o course)---posted here and there, I'm also told, but can't be arsed (too many boots, gotta take a break)

The move from identifying yourself with a tribe (metal, rock, jazz, alternative, etc) to the expectation that your tastes will dip into everything at least a little.

He never even made a clumsy/fumbling/self-conscious late-career attempt to get back to his early '70s peaks.

Well, he decided he wanted to be Frank Sinatra, Jr. instead.

I like some of Waits' songs, especially on the tribute album New Coat of Paint, or just about anywhere, as long as *he's* not "singing" them;

I've actually had the opposite happen a couple of times - songs I thought kind of sucked until I heard his versions and they totally made sense in that context.

speaking of Rod Stewart!

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/b0/a6/de/b0a6de2b6ba48d01192f6426aac69401.jpg

jazz fusion surely has had a reappraisal right

though i guess jazz fusion means a lot of things, some of which are perennially hip e.g. electric miles, some of which are never hip e.g. spyro gyra, some of which change, e.g...idk...weather report?

wait no not weather report, maybe more like return to forever

Patti Smith: My wife was surprised when I told her that I saw Patti in a half-full theater in 2000. I think if she played the same theater now (which she probably wouldn't), she'd sell it out fast. It's not that she wasn't a legend 16 years ago, but she was a middle-aged legend, and middle age is hard on a lot of music careers. Now she's an elder statesperson, a living link to '70s NYC bohemia, en eminence grise. It's interesting the shifts people go through as next generations either embrace them or don't.

There was definitely a subset of jazz people who were sour on electric Miles, and I think that set has mostly died out or quieted down.

wait, DO young people like/listen to patti smith? we would have to ask one.

can we get whiney's world of young people in here

My impression is that young hipsters have definitely embraced her. I don't know if that extends beyond streaming Horses and owning a used copy of Just Kids, but I think she's beloved at least in theory.

She's like Woody Guthrie - everyone reps her no one listens to her.

some people dislike her

Patti Smith is interesting as a person/figure but man her records (apart from "Gloria") are such a snooze

i'm still fond of people have the power. that's like the one thing i always like hearing. bernie should make that his theme song.

wait, pissing in the river was cool too. don't forget that one.

I will rep for Easter and "Dancing Barefoot," but that's a different thread...

bowie. played shit like Phoenix Festival (*twice*) in the mid 90s. there was an odd period between say Live Aid and headlining Glastonbury 2000 where he felt like more of a cult artist.

i tried to listen to horses and lost interest. she looks super rad on the cover though

yea i think i have made at least 4 unsuccessful attempts to listen to horses

Patti was elevating 70s schmaltz right from the start. Yacht rock pioneer!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j90pMqadsII

lol marcos

Another conversation with my wife: trying to explain to her that Asia was actually a really huge band for a few years. ("Heat of the Moment" came on while we were at a restaurant.) Not that I'm expecting an Asia revival.

i thought i saw patti smith in a bar recently and then i thought it was actually charlotte gainsbourg, who looks older in person. turned out it was an unfamous person.

"bowie."

for real major big time! younguns loooooove bowie! 70's bowie anyway. and his stuff could be found cheap forever until like 5 years ago. and was going up up in price on vinyl even before he died.

interesting. i bought like all his 70s records for 2-5 dollars a piece a few years ago. is that impossible to do now? i haven't been looking for bowie albums recently

I feel like Elvis Costello has been declining in popularity amongst the youngins, or at least that's the vibe I've gotten from the declining rating trends for his album on RYM.

Asia was actually a really huge band for a few years

The end of the corporate rock era. That record and Hi Infidelity by REO Speedwagon were both huge at the same time.

Rush have definitely become cooler.

i think elvis costello has been a nonentity with the young folk for....uh, decades.

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I feel like Elvis Costello has been declining in popularity amongst the youngins, or at least that's the vibe I've gotten from the declining rating trends for his album on RYM.

I always thought of Elvis Costello as a big thing for people 10 years older than myself tbh.

lol 2xp