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we'll do a "minimal synth" version of "windchimes" for the flip

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 04:19 (nineteen years ago)

BEST IDEA EVAH

― trees (treesessplode), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 04:45 (nineteen years ago)

Even fictitious credit is too much credit for Mike Love.

― Makrugaik (makrugaik), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

ALLEZ ALLEZ ARE TEH SHIT

― trees (treesessplode), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 21:01 (nineteen years ago)

So how would you like to see Mike Love perish?

― dmr (Renard), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 23:22 (nineteen years ago)

Don't necessarily know about teh beardo label for this one, but lfam gave me this for my birthday:
ihttp://www.banquetrecords.com/graphics/envun05.jpg

And it is fucking sweet.

― trees (treesessplode), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

so, nearly (good lord) 10 months on from my initial post on this thread, i remain unconvinced that this stuff is anything more than the new dancerock, the middleaged flipside of the mstrkrft/ed banger shit, with "cooler" inputs. (what sort of world have we woken up in when soft-rock is "cooler" than punk/metal.) (a: a good one.)

that said, i still love it all. even if it's the fakest dance genre ever. i want it to go EVEN MORE soft-rock/prog-rock. like a 2006 update of chill out or something.

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

actually, the more i think about it, this is like what would have happened had daft punk chosen alan parsons over michael mcdonald.

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

yeah the less of a beat this stuff has the better it gets!

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

listening to Gong's You LP from another thread, and it has beardo written all over it!

― Dominique (dleone), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

shabba ranks, I've actually had a weird feeling about some of this stuff too, if only because I always hated acid jazz, and a lot of beardo-y stuff approaches that same kind of MOR funkiness. and I'm also w/you wrt a cool thing that could happen to a lot of this music is to go oven further over (under?) the top

― Dominique (dleone), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

the question is not what makes this better than (acid jazz / trip hop / dance rock) but why you hated those things in the first place??

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

as far as ed banger / electroclash goes, well, thomas bullock WAS in ARE weapons, but i don't think there's much of a tangible connection other than both beloved by NY scenester types ... which is something, along the lines of why chemical brothers fans listened to dave clarke back in 1995, but it doesn't really show that chems = dave clarke or anything like that

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

well no i dont think there's a tangible connection at all, really. this is all theoretical rock critic mind games on my part.

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

hey wait ... you have a beard, right?

HYPOCRITE

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

i said i loved it, didn't i!

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

i remain unconvinced that this stuff is anything more than the new dancerock

the lindstrom/prins album is just updated post-rock

― jaxon (jaxon), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

yeah see that's kinda exactly what i'm talking about. it's not the NEW dancerock so much as its dancerock expanding outward from JUST 78-83.

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

and again, FRANCIS GRASSO, y'all. while i'm glad rub'n'tug are out there mixing shit up, i remain unconvinced this is anything NEW. (doesn't have to be "new" to be good, mind you.)

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

how popular is this stuff?

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

like it got popular among my close friends because i gave it to them but i'm sort of out of the loop right now

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

not very popular at all, i would guess.

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

though popular enough to rate a fabric mix.

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

basically it's the dance music equivalent of crate digging isn't it??

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

yes ... so it's acid jazz / trip hop 2006 style

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

so confusing

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

i stand by my non-original "it's possible to be crate digging music and dance-rock at the same time" thesis

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

yeah yeah blah blah big beat blah blah

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

np: "in/flux"

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

haha vahid do you want me to turn off the email notifications thing btw?

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

i'm not really sure where those email notifications are going ... i don't actually even check my hotmail, it's like a dedicated junk mail email address.

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:19 (nineteen years ago)

it's not new but maybe a return to old, or just an expanding of the dance music canon...but let it be known that even as eclectic as the mixes/playlists/blogs suggest, the actual dance sets are usually almost as insular as before. Not as bad, but still. There's an aspect to some of this which is like, "I've decided this is a cool song to dance to, I DARE you to agree" knowing that of course everyone will fall in line, lest they seem rockist when sayng "no, that was crap then and it's crap now". This statement makes it seem like I agree with the latter, when I'm more in line with the former, btw. But it's also the crate-diggers joy of finding the stuff, like, everyone's bored with al lthe "disco" and "italo" and "house" or whatever but did you know this AM gold artist had a b-side recorded in jamaica that's really dubby and dancey? Did you know that even though for 20 years everyone's considered this disco crossover record was crap we've all decided it's actually cool because you know what, we like disco.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

i like to think that every time we post on this thread, it's like stepping on a crack in the sidewalk and dan selzer gets a stabbing, migraine-like pain behind his eyes.

haha xpost

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

unless you're british, in which case it's the ultimate dance rockism of "oh, it's just balearic again innit"

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

re: what I hated about acid jazz in the first place: MOR

basically agreeing with the notion "it's possible to be crate digging music and dance-rock at the same time" -- see "Losing My Edge" as exhibit A, not to mention a lot of Lindstrom stuff. It does appear to be difficult, however, to produce tracks using this really mellow source material without in turn mellowing, smoothing it down even more (possibly to accomodate the extended forms of most electronic dance music?), and taking more of the edge off.

― Dominique (dleone), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

"I've decided this is a cool song to dance to, I DARE you to agree"

i think this is an appropriate thing to say re: all the balearic stuff

xpost!!

― jaxon (jaxon), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

why don't I understand a single thing vahid ever posts ever?

for the record...I don't remember a time A.R.E. Weapons were actually popular, even with NY hipsters. Their shows were just parties filled with their friends, and they had lots of friends, but it never seemed to go any further then that.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

generation gap??

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

i have no problem with crate digging, though! even cheeseball shit. the "alchemy of the mix" and all. i actually wrote about rub'n'tug this week and my basic, uh, argument (other than that it was the new dance-rock, mostly so i could tie it to mstrkrft in the piece because they're playing here this week) (not as tenuous as you think, i swear) was that what makes them good was their "curatorial" skillz. (and the cheap trick of slowing down spoonful of leather.) (also forgot the fabric mix doesn't come out for like another month...oops.)

xpost: dan, vahid is actually like the little boy who dunks the girls pigtails in the inkwell because he secretly likes her, don't worry.

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

what are peoples arguments against crate digging?

― jaxon (jaxon), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

balearic's been a big reference point to all this, but at the same time, it has a decidedly "chilled out" aesthethic that makes it only part of the story. Cosmic is a step more diverse, weirder stuff, noisier stuff, then you get into the whole dance-punk v. 1.0 mudd club/hurrahs/danceteria/99 records etc...I'd think most of these DJs may start or end on the balearic tip, but it's all about "slamming" beats at some point in the night.

generation gap??

how old are you?

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

LOOK TO THE FUTURE < /s. reynolds>

xpost

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

i was kidding!!!

(almost 30)

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

unlike pop bloggers, crate diggers tend to be pale, overweight, unsightly shut-ins w/ bad personal hygeine

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

i was kidding!!!

Well it's something!

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

nyc vs. cali

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

alt: death row vs. bad boy

― shabba ranks (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

the term balearic makes my flesh crawl.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

did quiet village project get their name from the ritchie family track 'quiet village'? medium tempo disco with wailing synths flying all over the place? i know there was also a martin denny song of the name. it seems like if you crossed the two you would get quiet village project...

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Thursday, 12 October 2006 02:05 (nineteen years ago)

oh the ritchie family track is a version of the les baxter composition that denny was working with, too

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Thursday, 12 October 2006 02:06 (nineteen years ago)

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