the Sturgill Simpson c/d

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he seems even more full-on into bad 70s country trope mode. WTF, cotton in his gums like Brando in the Godfather?

terrible

Thomas H. Handy (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 24 March 2016 17:31 (ten years ago)

whut the heyul

human life won't become a cat (man alive), Thursday, 24 March 2016 20:27 (ten years ago)

the addition of "to love someone" at the end of that line is hilarious unintentional irony

human life won't become a cat (man alive), Thursday, 24 March 2016 20:29 (ten years ago)

You guys go to hell

van smack, Thursday, 24 March 2016 22:07 (ten years ago)

kinda wish he'd gone all the way with it

He likes to shoot his gun
But he don't know what it means
To love someone
The way I love you...

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 24 March 2016 23:03 (ten years ago)

really not sure why anyone is bemused by this cover, it...sounds like a sturgill simpson song, just like he made "the promise" sound like one of his songs

tbf it's not half as good as "the promise" but it's totally fine

if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 14:28 (ten years ago)

NYT Profile

...it’s Elvis on Mr. Simpson’s mind, and in his mouth.

“T.C.B., baby!” he yelled, a reference to Presley’s band. Mr. Simpson is partial to Presley’s later years, the Stax era, “when they were laying it down hard and heavy. Elvis was a way bigger influence than Waylon Jennings, but you don’t wanna tell people, ‘I never really listened to Waylon.’”

Now I Know How Joan of Arcadia Felt (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 31 March 2016 21:58 (ten years ago)

in fact he does seem to wanna tell ppl he never really listened to waylon.

from the quoted lyrics to that father-son song, i'd guess jason isbell's "outfit" made an impression on him when they toured together.

dc, Thursday, 31 March 2016 22:15 (ten years ago)

I see Dave Cobb is not part of this new one.

― van smack, Tuesday, March 22, 2016 1:

I think in the NYT profile he talks about why he produced this one himself

curmudgeon, Thursday, 7 April 2016 14:09 (ten years ago)

this feels kinda half baked with a lot of strings on top

Heez, Friday, 8 April 2016 03:52 (ten years ago)

It has its moments, but it ain't great.

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Friday, 8 April 2016 04:29 (ten years ago)

Album works pretty well as an entry point to his music (which this is for me, never got around to Metamodern, will probably go back now though).

Jeff W, Sunday, 17 April 2016 11:38 (ten years ago)

Liking this a lot.

Haven't had time to absorb much of the lyrics, which might be a bit heavy-handed from what I read. But it sounds fine overall.

Half-baked profundities. Self-referential smirkiness (Bob Six), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 07:20 (ten years ago)

Welcome To Earth (Polywog) is my favourite song so far this year

Jerry Lee Lewis: The Total Film-Maker (stevie), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 13:11 (ten years ago)

Rest of the album is very strong too, I think

Jerry Lee Lewis: The Total Film-Maker (stevie), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 13:12 (ten years ago)

Finally listened to it this morning after not caring for either of the songs he released beforehand. I don't even know if I like it or not. I don't hate it, but it's just so fucking dull.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 13:40 (ten years ago)

one month passes...

Saw his performance on The Daily Show and liked it.

Streaming the album on Spotify and it seems like it'll be the one country album I like this year.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 02:34 (ten years ago)

three months pass...

From FB:

http://www.musicrow.com/2016/08/acm-creates-award-to-celebrate-merle-haggards-legacy/

Many years back, much like Willie and Waylon had years before, Merle Haggard said,
"Fuck this town. I'm moving." and he left Nashville.
According to my sources, it was right after a record executive told him that "Kern River" was a bad song. In the last chapter of his career and his life, Nashville wouldn't call, play, or touch him. He felt forgotten and tossed aside. I always got a sense that he wanted one last hit..one last proper victory lap of his own, and we all know deserved it. Yet it never came. And now he's gone.

Im writing this because I want to go on record and say I find it utterly disgusting the way everybody on Music Row is coming up with any reason they can to hitch their wagon to his name while knowing full and damn well what he thought about them. If the ACM wants to actually celebrate the legacy and music of Merle Haggard, they should drop all the formulaic cannon fodder bullshit they've been pumping down rural America's throat for the last 30 years along with all the high school pageantry, meat parade award show bullshit and start dedicating their programs to more actual Country Music.

While Im venting about the unjust treatment of a bonafide American music legend, I should also add, if for no other reasons than sheer principal and to get the taste I've been choking back for months now out of my mouth, that Merle was supposed to be on the cover of Garden & Gun magazine's big Country Music issue (along with myself) a few months back.
They reached out to both of us in October of last year while I was on a west coast tour. Merle was home off the road so I took a day off and traveled up to Redding.
He was so excited about it and it goes without saying that I was completely beside myself along with my Grandfather who has always been a HUGE Merle fan. We spent the whole day of the interview visiting in his living room with our families and had a wonderful conversation with the journalist. Then we spent about two hours outside being photographed by a brilliant and highly respected photographer named David McClister until Merle had enough...he was still recovering from a recent bout of double pneumonia at the time and it was a bit cold that day on the ranch.
But then at the last minute, the magazine's editor put Chris Stapleton on the cover without telling anyone until they had already gone to print. Don't get me wrong, Chris had a great year and deserves a million magazine covers...but thats not the point.
Its about keeping your word and ethics.
Chris also knows this as he called me personally to express his disgust at the situation. Dude's a class act.
The editor later claimed in a completely bullshit email apology to both Merle's publicist and ours (Chris and I share the same publicist) that they didn't get any good shots that day.
David McClister..
2 hour shoot..
no good photos..
OK buddy,..whatever you say.
Anyway, Merle passed away right after it came out.

Some days, this town and this industry have a way of making we wish I could just go sit on Mars and build glass clocks.

Sturgill

a full playlist of presidential sex jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 29 August 2016 15:59 (nine years ago)

Right on

Wimmels, Monday, 29 August 2016 19:02 (nine years ago)

Saw him live to celebrate a friend's birthday. It's not a show I would ever have chosen to see myself, and yet the sheer galactic maximalism of it all was completely mesmerising. And the crowd! What a lovely crowd. Everyone dancing!

tangenttangent, Monday, 29 August 2016 20:14 (nine years ago)

If Sturgill was a rock artist, I'd be telling him to chill the fuck out and just roll with the progression of things, but since he's not and country actually HAS BEEN a bunch of bullshit for 30 years that has zip to do with the traditional songwriting style and musicianship of country music, I am pumping my fist.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 02:03 (nine years ago)

Sturgill is mythologizing. His past never existed.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 02:05 (nine years ago)

never MIND the fact that Miranda Lambert has made better records

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 02:06 (nine years ago)

Inasmuch as country industry has always been dominated by "inauthentic" hucksters and jingoism u are correct

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 02:07 (nine years ago)

Country industry has also always been about a mythological past too tho

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 02:08 (nine years ago)

I love u Alfred, but I can't understand the manner in which you staunchly defend the most garbagey ends of Nashville.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 02:09 (nine years ago)

I want him and Isbell to sell records (even though Isbell's records are the equivalent of dust on old furniture), but, really, they've done well on AAA/Americana insofar as anybody does in 2016, and they (and Lucinda Williams) would've joined Uncle Tupelo or whoever on that format twenty years ago too.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 02:09 (nine years ago)

I love u Alfred, but I can't understand the manner in which you staunchly defend the most garbagey ends of Nashville.

― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever),

love you too boo but I can't understand why you're such a reactionary. And are you suggesting Lambert, Clark, Jackson, etc are garbage?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 02:11 (nine years ago)

Lambert and Ashley Monroe are two of the best singer-songwriters in any genre at the moment.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 02:12 (nine years ago)

xp Brandy Clark is delightful, as a musical writer of course, but particularly as a lyricist/storyteller.

Ashley Monroe and Miranda Lambert are hardly any different than top 40 factory pop, only with "Nashville" signifiers—musically, at least. And since I'm always a music person first and lyrics person a distant second, I get turned away by how ordinary the songs sound.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 02:20 (nine years ago)

I was pleasantly surprised by some of that Lee Ann Womack album from 2 years ago that you championed because of how musically rich it was.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 02:21 (nine years ago)

Ha -- to me they play as _sound_ first. Lambert's records sound great: full, lived-in like good Martina McBride, expert dynamics.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 02:22 (nine years ago)

(And I do agree with you on Isbell. Dust on furniture is a perfect visual.)

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 02:22 (nine years ago)

Ashley Monroe and Miranda Lambert are hardly any different than top 40 factory pop, only with "Nashville" signifiers—musically, at least.

Ashley Monroe and Miranda Lambert sound like the Chainsmokers, Sia, and Rihanna? Oh.

We better drop this subject.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 02:24 (nine years ago)

Chainsmokers and Rihanna, no. Sia? I hadn't thought about her, but totally in some cases.

Someday I'm gonna lock myself up for an entire weekend and trace how we got from the very vibrant musicality of the 80s (and every decade before them) to what happened in the 90s and beyond where everything got really blocky and cut-and-paste with numbing cadences and geometrically square bass lines. Started with Nirvana and Garth Brooks, moved into Weezer and post-Weezer rock and Shania Twain, took hold in teen pop boom at the end of the 20th century, and then Coldplay and OneRepublic oozed it all over everything since.

I know I've talked about the Mutt Lange-ification of Nashville in the past, but it's a real thing that happened, and it took a subsection of popular music that had, for many decades, sounded completely different and then sounded very much NOT different.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 02:33 (nine years ago)

I will shut up now.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 02:40 (nine years ago)

I am interested in this theory and would like to subscribe to your newsletter

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 02:40 (nine years ago)

I know I've talked about the Mutt Lange-ification of Nashville in the past, but it's a real thing that happened, and it took a subsection of popular music that had, for many decades, sounded completely different and then sounded very much NOT different.

The country and A/C charts of the '80s had records whose sounds and mixes were indistinguishable (Ronnie Milsap, Kenny Rogers, Crystal Gayle). It's true that Van Shelton, Yoakam, Travis, Rosanne Cash, etc dropped much of the gloss but not by much.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 02:44 (nine years ago)

I only know enough musical theory to be dangerous. Not enough to actually describe the whys and hows popular songwriting got super boring in the last 25 years (other than a lot of it has to do with Logic/Pro Tools and digital recording). xp

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 02:46 (nine years ago)

I like what our Jess said on FB: "this strikes me as very similar to indie hip-hop at the height of the shiny suit era: the rhetoric was so confused because they were simultaneously saying "i don't want your damn recognition" and "why won't you fuckers pay attention to the *real shit*?" you can either attempt to change the system or you can stand proudly outside of it. this wishy-washy in between shit just makes you look like a chump."

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 02:46 (nine years ago)

The country and A/C charts of the '80s had records whose sounds and mixes were indistinguishable (Ronnie Milsap, Kenny Rogers, Crystal Gayle). It's true that Van Shelton, Yoakam, Travis, Rosanne Cash, etc dropped much of the gloss but not by much.

interesting that sturgill specifically calls out the last 30 years of nashville vapidity, when 30 years back is exactly the beginning of yoakam, travis, van shelton, black, et. al., which i would think would be up sturgill's alley. i'd think he'd be totally into what music row was pushing 30 years ago.

but if he can get his own "are you sure hank done it this way" out of all this, then power to him and good for everybody.

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 05:35 (nine years ago)

Sturgill is mythologizing. His past never existed.

Country industry has also always been about a mythological past too tho

both otm. and sometimes they get really good songs out of it.

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 05:38 (nine years ago)

The country and A/C charts of the '80s had records whose sounds and mixes were indistinguishable (Ronnie Milsap, Kenny Rogers, Crystal Gayle).

what i want to know is WTF happened to country-music rhythm sections in the 1980s? you still get some great songs, but even many of the best albums--like say merle haggard's--have this no-bottom, metronomic, equalized-out-the-motherfucker rhythm section sound that seems deliberately lifeless to me. i don't get it.

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 06:09 (nine years ago)

i mean compare that to waylon's rhythm sections -- even into the early 1980s -- which have a lot of bottom and are almost funky. well actually they /are/ funky at times. and of course much earlier country where the WHAP of the drums is always there.

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 06:10 (nine years ago)

i was listening to some country station out of virginia recently, they play "classic" country which to them means 60s-80s, i guess. and the shift from almost anything pre-1982 or so to anything later was often really pronounced. the bottom just disappears, the dynamic range shrinks.

(there's this other thing where in a certain subset of country balladry of the late 1970s through the early 1990s, a premium seems to be placed on sounding as sedated as possible. i'm all for minimalism, where a height of expressivity is reached via a minimum of means or at least a minimum of perceivable strain and variation. but some of this stuff---like kenny rogers and ronnie milsap and eddie rabbit, and those are the dudes i kind of LIKE--sounds like they invented the singing somnambulist.)

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 06:12 (nine years ago)

i guess this belongs on another thread or something.

i like sturgill simpson well enough except sometimes his aesthetic (and voice) gets uncomfortably eddie bedder-like.

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 06:13 (nine years ago)

*Vedder

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 06:13 (nine years ago)

Thee Anthony FantanoVerified account ‏@theneedledrop 14 hours ago
There's no better person than Sturgill Simpson to really GIVE IT to the country industry right now. I'm getting hot just thinking about it.

salthigh, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 06:24 (nine years ago)

I love Eddie Vedder and I don't really hear it in Sturgill, who I also lost

the opening track to the latest album is still the best thing I've heard all year

beer say hi to me (stevie), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 07:33 (nine years ago)


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