pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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yeah, i mentioned that upthread. of all the slogans to rip off, they went with CNN. lol

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 23 March 2016 17:32 (eight years ago) link

Don't know if this has been commented upon, but when did Pitchfork become "The Most Trusted Voice in Music"?

― MarkoP, Wednesday, March 23, 2016 1

Walter Cronkite called him that in 1961 iirc

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 March 2016 17:32 (eight years ago) link

is there some reason designers are incapable of like styling designs to fit the platform?

if you mean like having different device-specific designs versus the currently more popular device-responsive approach where the design, in theory, adapts to your device then the reason is that there are way too many devices with wildly varying screen dimensions now. also, there was some idea that the old m.website.com-style mobile site confused readers who were used to the look of the desktop site.

also the shift to mobile-dominated traffic is just a fact, especially for younger-skewing media companies. saw a presentation from a Buzzfeed dude the other day and he said ~70% of their traffic is mobile.

rob, Wednesday, 23 March 2016 17:42 (eight years ago) link

it's not up to the designers. web standards are constantly changing. for the 90s it was a lot of static self-contained HTML pages. nowadays every webpage is modular and dynamic whether it's designed for mobile or not. everything cross-platform all the time.

automated processes are there to help apply a brand style to every piece of posted content. but nobody goes in anymore and individually adjusts the text and photos for each article. it becomes a dance of tweaking the computer's input (often an in-house proprietary developed set of editing tools) to get the right balance where it looks closest to the sample someone designed way way way back in the process (before it had _this_ widget and _that_ widget added in for good measure).

honestly it's a miracle we see any of it at all.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 23 March 2016 18:22 (eight years ago) link

people saying that homepages aren't that important remind me of the gag where the cover of a book is misprinted and someone goes "you're ok, nobody looks at the...cover"

― some dude, Wednesday, 23 March 2016 17:14 (1 hour ago) Permalink

This would make sense of people frequently accessed books by reading a single page after seeing it on their Facebook page

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 23 March 2016 18:28 (eight years ago) link

Today they bnm'ed Wadada Leo Smith & Vijay Iyer and Charles Bradley's new Black Sabbath cover. Are they changing away from indie-hype as well?

Frederik B, Wednesday, 23 March 2016 18:52 (eight years ago) link

Nah, they just looooove Vijay Iyer. They've been polishing his knob for well over a decade.

Historicity

Accelerando

Solo

Tragicomic

In What Language? (with Mike Ladd)

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 23 March 2016 19:15 (eight years ago) link

A Charles Bradley cover that was originally released in 2013, and then later re-released late last year in promotion of his upcoming album now gets "Best New Music"? Better late than never, I guess.

MarkoP, Wednesday, 23 March 2016 19:22 (eight years ago) link

Charles Bradley's retro soul is standard fare for indie fans as well

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 23 March 2016 19:24 (eight years ago) link

kinda feel like indie is not a thing anymore, like it doesn't exist

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 March 2016 19:25 (eight years ago) link

lol, sorry to rail on this one more time but now they have to do a quasi-news item to explain that they've named something a best new track:

http://i.imgur.com/Xtt1aa1.jpg

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 23 March 2016 20:16 (eight years ago) link

"there's got to be a better way"

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 23 March 2016 20:18 (eight years ago) link

Because it's a "big deal" duh!

Evan, Wednesday, 23 March 2016 20:23 (eight years ago) link

lol at Charles Bradley's Cover of Black Sabbath's "Changes" is Named Best New Track. Too bad the Senate will never vote to confirm dudes.

Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Wednesday, 23 March 2016 20:37 (eight years ago) link

Would find it really funny if this "news" gets reported by another Music website, given that a lot of them just seem to report on the same stories.

MarkoP, Wednesday, 23 March 2016 20:47 (eight years ago) link

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ulysses, Wednesday, 23 March 2016 20:54 (eight years ago) link

baaaaha, i thought it was just a one off mistake but it looks like it's a thing

http://i.imgur.com/8LTm4l7.jpg

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 23 March 2016 21:17 (eight years ago) link

Pleeeeease let a band called Track release a really good song with Track in the title, so it can be named best new track, given the best new track tag, and also the tracks tag

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 23 March 2016 21:18 (eight years ago) link

i don't ask for much

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 23 March 2016 21:19 (eight years ago) link

they'll be reviewing the reviews next

Number None, Wednesday, 23 March 2016 23:40 (eight years ago) link

Charles Bradley's Cover of Black Sabbath's "Changes" is Named Best New Track, And That's Okay

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 23 March 2016 23:46 (eight years ago) link

is the blessed impossible day upon us

is ilm seceding from pitchfork

Laertiades (imago), Wednesday, 23 March 2016 23:58 (eight years ago) link

every site looks like pitchfork now. blame facebook. (kind of not kidding.)

maura, Thursday, 24 March 2016 13:55 (eight years ago) link

I usually just blame Apple.

MarkoP, Thursday, 24 March 2016 14:35 (eight years ago) link

surprised (okay, very slightly) that ratings below 5 are hardly used if this index is correct:
http://www.albumoftheyear.org/ratings/1-pitchfork-highest-rated/2016/10

niels, Tuesday, 29 March 2016 11:46 (eight years ago) link

btw redesign has introduced abstracts for all reviews, thx p4k!

I'd be like "hey good point we should probably include those summaries in the actual reviews as introductory paragraphs in boldface or smth like they do in the papers"

― niels, Tuesday, February 9, 2016 2:31 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

niels, Tuesday, 29 March 2016 11:49 (eight years ago) link

x-post Not too surprising, as p4k tends to only review the sorts of albums they are predisposed to like (as opposed to Spin or RS reviewing Dave Matthews records and such)

Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Tuesday, 29 March 2016 12:02 (eight years ago) link

yeah, that does make a lot of sense too - guess it's kind of old school to position yourself through disliking (even if any reader will get the implicit dislike in ignoring a popular artist entirely)

niels, Tuesday, 29 March 2016 12:12 (eight years ago) link

Bad reviews/ratings seem really scarce in the whole world of music publications, not just P4K.

moans and feedback (Dinsdale), Tuesday, 29 March 2016 12:13 (eight years ago) link

That's because everything's awesome now. Right?

Wimmels, Tuesday, 29 March 2016 12:52 (eight years ago) link

its that buyers guide/curatorial/RIYL thing that the internet has brought about. equal parts Amazon and insane rock list-makers. discarding/ignoring the bad stuff (or what people think is bad stuff) and focusing on whatever your niche is. makes sense with so much stuff out there. people don't want to read a ton of bad reviews they want itunes/spotify playlist choices.

scott seward, Tuesday, 29 March 2016 14:15 (eight years ago) link

there need to be more "worst songs/albums of the year" lists.

and then just for fairness there should also be like "the 20 most bleh middle of the road songs/albums of the year that were approximately a 5 out of 10"

billstevejim, Tuesday, 29 March 2016 17:17 (eight years ago) link

You would think more publications would be down to review Twenty One Pilots since it can be kinda fun to write bad reviews.

billstevejim, Tuesday, 29 March 2016 17:18 (eight years ago) link

where is the pitchfork version of this book?
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51WGnJIEHQL._SX314_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

billstevejim, Tuesday, 29 March 2016 17:22 (eight years ago) link

i feel like in film or lit or many other mediums, getting one star or zero stars or whatever is common because there's a sense of like, this movie was botched so badly on some fundamental level that there's no audience that would think highly of it, whereas with music, i dunno, i think there's a greater sense of, we're only writing about it because somebody does like it, it holds some value for some audience, or there are good songs but as a whole it's not great.

back IN MY DAY most of my PF reviews were under 5/10, but that was when they would make people review any old garbage from the promo pile.

some dude, Tuesday, 29 March 2016 17:22 (eight years ago) link

i've often thought that there's a niche (likely online) for eviscerating and ONLY eviscerating reviews; don't get why whiney isn't doing that

i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 29 March 2016 17:29 (eight years ago) link

i think you kind of have to wait for bad records to come to you for it to not seem forced, if you're just doing a performative IT STINKS schtick it doesn't really have the same effect

every month i write about my 10 favorite albums that came out that month and one 'worst' record, and there've been ties when the 'worst' review will get more attention than the others, although i don't go scorched earth every time, sometimes i'm just genuinely disappointed in a record i was looking forward to.

some dude, Tuesday, 29 March 2016 17:42 (eight years ago) link

If only Pitchfork would tackle the upcoming Lukas Graham album.

MarkoP, Tuesday, 29 March 2016 17:44 (eight years ago) link

I remember when an ilxor wrote a semi-negative review on p4k and Genius annotated it to explain to her how wrong she was

Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Tuesday, 29 March 2016 18:09 (eight years ago) link

she went against THE BUZZ and that's unconscionable. similar fits were pitched about their Lil Yachty review.

some dude, Tuesday, 29 March 2016 18:21 (eight years ago) link

me and maura pitched a book like that after our F2K posts did monster traffic in 2009

http://www.villagevoice.com/music/f2k-the-50-worst-songs-of-the-00s-6629282

No one wanted it.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 29 March 2016 18:24 (eight years ago) link

lol somehow I missed that there's an actual artist going by "Lil Yachty" and I was trying to figure out if that was a reference to something else

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 29 March 2016 18:39 (eight years ago) link

I remember when an ilxor wrote a semi-negative review on p4k and Genius annotated it to explain to her how wrong she was

Is this about Wet?

MarkoP, Tuesday, 29 March 2016 18:50 (eight years ago) link

come to think of it, i haven't read a good/funny negative review in a long time.

scott seward, Tuesday, 29 March 2016 18:51 (eight years ago) link

If only Pitchfork would tackle the upcoming Lukas Graham album.

I mean there's a charlie puth review. anything is possible

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Tuesday, 29 March 2016 18:53 (eight years ago) link

I just learned that I went to high school with two of the writers of 7 Years.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 29 March 2016 18:58 (eight years ago) link

@billstevejim have you seen this

http://www.amazon.com/Worst-Rock-Roll-Records-Time/dp/0806512318

i bought it for less than 3 at a waldenbooks when i was 16, and it probably changed my life.

maura, Tuesday, 29 March 2016 19:14 (eight years ago) link

also guys don't you know that negativity is out unless you're talking about out-of-context photos of people in embarrassing situations

maura, Tuesday, 29 March 2016 19:15 (eight years ago) link

is this the point where i say that I think "Seven Years" is very poignant and the right kind of saccharine sentimentality for me to unreservedly enjoy

i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Tuesday, 29 March 2016 19:23 (eight years ago) link

a data-journalist should graph the evolution of the distribution of pitchfork scores to test the 'no more negative reviews' hypothesis

the end of negativity is possibly an undesirable side effect of the positive development of too much music. at one point Scott Plagenhof was on some ilx thread saying 'we genuinely prefer to review an album we like over one we don't', and as the # of albums increases if they stick to that principle the % of neg reviews should decrease (assuming music as a whole doesn't get worse). so they don't go out of their way to shit on a random indie album as much anymore (or only Ian Cohen does). but i feel like they still have some degree of integrity and if a notable album sucks they'll give it a nice salty review

flopson, Tuesday, 29 March 2016 19:30 (eight years ago) link


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