Daft Punk - Human After All

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(Also deej., speaking as someone who likkes to play the semantics game and redefine words so that he can use controversial language to make innocuous statements, no matter how much you protest you're not going to change DC's interpretation of the word "rockist"; furthermore, looking for hard work from a band doesn't strike me as particularly "rockist" in the sense that most rockists I know don't really privilege rehearsal and effort.)

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 03:47 (twenty-one years ago)

ROCK :)
ROBOT ROCK :O
ROCK :)))
ROBOT ROCK :(
ROCK :D
ROBOT ROCK :/
ROCK :>
ROBOT ROCK ]:-)

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 03:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Dan is, generally speaking, entirely crazy but he is right about "Technologic" and to the haters who call it "self-parody," I don't see it.

xp to Dan - if this is the case, then the word rockist is useless. If we use it as a word to define any and all logical fallacies related to music appreciation, it is actually a very useful word.

― deej., Tuesday, 25 January 2005 03:48 (twenty-one years ago)

if this is the case, then the word rockist is useless.

YES IT IS.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 03:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I have downloaded it and I will listen to it tomorrow if it is a nice day.

Your discussions scare me.

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 03:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Matos will be mad, Dan.

― deej., Tuesday, 25 January 2005 03:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Dan, you should listen to Discovery again and review it here!!!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 03:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Can somebody please just take their compression plugins away from them? And all these square waves are seriously annoying. Not very impressed at all. Mediocre songwriting and bland production. Big fucking deal.

― Andrew (enneff), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 04:02 (twenty-one years ago)

grumble fume etc

I am patiently waiting for my DL to finish. Meanwhile, I'm still coming to terms with "Robot Rock" as alleged total ripoff of that Breakwater track -- and also why said ripoff is not actually that big a deal.

― What's this place, Biblevania? (natepatrin), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 04:29 (twenty-one years ago)

i actually think it is a big deal, and i alluded to as much on another thread, but once "robot rock" (a song i was previously only lukewarm on) revealed itself to be one of the best on the record, it felt like less of an issue.

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 04:32 (twenty-one years ago)

"intertextuality vs Plagiarism is necessary; progress implies it"

― Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 04:33 (twenty-one years ago)

whats that from, sebastien?

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 04:35 (twenty-one years ago)

part of it is from a couple of people; Debord, Lautréamont ...& me on the "copier/coller" thread I made on the net art board. In the present context, I mean what daft punk are guilty of, exactly? They haven't followed the rules of proper "intertextuality" by failing to id their reference on that album that is yet to be released or what (I go with "or what" because progress= friend of daft punk logic)

― Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 04:44 (twenty-one years ago)

can someone type out the lyrics to technologie? thanks.

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 04:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, not a big deal to its detriment, maybe. (xp)

― What's this place, Biblevania? (natepatrin), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 04:51 (twenty-one years ago)

well, fwiw i don't think they're 'guilty' of anything, especially not for leaning on samples, and i'm certainly not interested in finger-pointing, but i do think it's relevant to the extent that they have a reputation (whether rightful or not) for being gymnasts in the studio and that reputation informs people's expectations of their work (see: this thread). so if knowledge of their source material (and the extent to which they've copped it) is a big deal, then maybe it's because i think it could lead to a critical re-evaluation of the whole daft punk as tapehead musos thing. i mean i understand that this knowledge doesn't change the end result one lick but i am interested in process, if for no other reason than because it helps with forecasting..

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 04:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Point made, though when I first heard the singles from Homework I didn't hear so much muso gymnastics as I did the phenomenal ability to pick the best 5-to-10-second loop to ride and subtly tweak for 7 minutes.

(More thoughts on the context of the Breakwater track here.)

― What's this place, Biblevania? (natepatrin), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 05:01 (twenty-one years ago)

but he is right about "Technologic" and to the haters who call it "self-parody," I don't see it.

I think I am the only "hater", but surely you can see how redundant it is compared with "Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger", especially in the lyric department.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 05:11 (twenty-one years ago)

i cant help but listen to "technologic" without thinking it was purposely made to soundtrack tomorrow's electronics and it commercials

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 05:14 (twenty-one years ago)

so, i still stand by a lot of my criticisms upthread... but listens 5 and 6 make a lot more sense than listens 1 and 2 did. i'll play this out a lot more than i will at home though.

and mark p. completely otm about how this song is made for apple's 'rip mix burn' campaign.

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 05:14 (twenty-one years ago)

and not to rub it in or anything but i feel really sorry for the people receiving notification emails from this thread...

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 05:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, imagine how long this thread will be by the time the album is released.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 05:17 (twenty-one years ago)

i am interested in process, if for no other reason than because it helps with forecasting..

I have no problem w/ this.

― deej., Tuesday, 25 January 2005 05:21 (twenty-one years ago)

ROCK ROCK ROBOT ROCK....DON'T STOP

― tylero (tylero), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 05:34 (twenty-one years ago)

can someone type out the lyrics to technologie? thanks.

Buy it, use it, break it, fix it,
trash it, change it, melt - upgrade it,
charge it, pawn it, zoom it, press it,
snap it, work it, quick - erase it,
write it, get it, paste it, save it,
load it, check it, quick - rewrite it,
plug it, play it, burn it, rip it,
drag and drop it, zip - unzip it,
lock it, fill it, curl it, find it,
view it, curl it, jam - unlock it,
surf it, scroll it, pose it, click it,
cross it, crack it, twitch - update it,
name it, read it, tune it, print it,
scan it, send it, fax - rename it,
touch it, bring it, obey it, watch it,
turn it, leave it, stop - format it.

Technologic, technologic, technologic, technologic.

― Andrew (enneff), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 05:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Technologic is great, lighten up people. And the Brainwasher *totally* hits it, dancefloor wise, more than Robot Rock anyway.

I think now that the excitement of "Wow! I'm listening to the new Daft Punk album!" has worn off, I basically agree with Stevem. This isn't as good an album as Discovery but the best tracks are very good indeed. Its all about Human After All, The Brainwasher, Technologic and Emotion. I don't like Steam Machine at all.

Human After All is basically a joke on Kraftwerk's The Robots, isn't it?

I fear my first listen to Kish Kash has permanently coloured my reaction to every album I've heard since. I've never recaptured that "OMG THIS IS SO, SO FUCKING GOOD!" feeling ever since.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 09:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I've never recaptured that "OMG THIS IS SO, SO FUCKING GOOD!" feeling ever since.

Not even with Rex The Dog's "Frequency," Matt?

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 10:17 (twenty-one years ago)

(albeit that was a single, not an album)

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 10:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I have just listened to the first three tracks on the way to work.

Initial impressions:

'Human After All' - hmmm... nothing surprising here. Scene-setting kind of track #1, rather than a mind-blower?

'The Prime Time Of Your Life' - this is more like it. I think the "prime time of your life" line is exactly what I want to hear right now. I am officially shaking off post-weekend blues. Doesn't open out into the track I expected, but I think that's OK.

'Robot Rock' - heard this before and was a bit underwhelmed. Apparently also heard it at the End on Saturday, but I have sketchy memories of much of that evening. Now it sounds ferocious. I love life.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 10:27 (twenty-one years ago)

It's OK... just not that inspired to me. I mean, its not that a group has to do new shit on every album but I have dozens of 12-inches from the mid 90's that sound like any of these songs. They basically have one filter setting they've used for their entire careers...

― DougD, Tuesday, 25 January 2005 11:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I gather you live pretty close to work, Alba.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 11:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Err yeah - 15 mins walk. I did actually catch the first minute or so of the next track but felt it unfair to comment.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 11:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Alba do you remember hearing '...Primetime...' at The End? it was a great moment

― Stevem On X (blueski), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 13:45 (twenty-one years ago)

seriously people you need to hear these tracks in a club LOUD with people everywhere, then come back here

i'd like to take the good tracks on HAA and the good tracks on Discovery and have The Greatest Album Of All Time

― Stevem On X (blueski), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 13:46 (twenty-one years ago)

They sound so completely different though! This works so much better this way.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 13:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Alba do you remember hearing '...Primetime...' at The End? it was a great moment

I would like to do Saturday again, differently.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 13:55 (twenty-one years ago)

They sound so completely different though! This works so much better this way.

If you think about the themes of Discovery, and the videos, many of the tracks on HAA would fit into that reasonably well e.g. 'The Brainwasher' being the bit where they have their memories erased, 'Human After All' would become 'Alien After All' haha. But yes I5555 has such romance and fantasy whereas HAA is an overly darker work.

― Stevem On X (blueski), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 14:05 (twenty-one years ago)

'Emotion' is just begging to sound track the most glamourous 'Emulsion' advert ever.

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 14:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I am the only "hater", but surely you can see how redundant it is compared with "Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger", especially in the lyric department.

"Technologic" pisses all over "HBFS" (which itself is an inferior reworking of "Around The World" anyway).

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 14:37 (twenty-one years ago)

If you think HBFS is like Around The World you're a complete spazzer.

Sorry, just joining in the general antsy vibe.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 15:13 (twenty-one years ago)

"Technologic" pisses all over "HBFS" (which itself is an inferior reworking of "Around The World" anyway).

Ah well, I think exactly the opposite, Dan. But we Boston folk must stick together! Otherwise we'll never get rid of the stench of Aerosmith.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)

"HBFS" has a great chorus...but I remember nothing else about it, generally.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 15:20 (twenty-one years ago)

that's YOUR error, carbon-based unit

― Stevem On X (blueski), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 15:29 (twenty-one years ago)

RobotM has his data straight.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 15:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I like this part:

04. Steam Machine - hotttttttttxxxxxxxxxxx
05. Make Love - afterglowmeltdown

― bnw (bnw), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

you forgot

06. PISTONPUMPINGASLIIDILSALJFLEIFJE!!!!!!

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)

And, very important:

I AM THE BRAINWASHAAAAA!!!

― Omar (Omar), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

has anyone got a fresh link to this?

I was in Barcelona all weekend and although Mark P was kind enough to mail me a link I couldn't download anything obviously.

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 16:12 (twenty-one years ago)

ronan, check the dido thread.

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 16:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I was going to download this last night, but when I got home I had to break up a fight between my dog and my cat and completely forgot about it! With any luck this situation will be rectified tonight.

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 16:19 (twenty-one years ago)

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