Come anticipate or vaguely boggle at the VINYL rock and roll HBO series from Martin Scorsese, Mick Jagger & Terence Winter!

this is embarrassing

hbo has sort of gone to shit. silly stuff like Veep & Silicon Valley pretty much the only reason i turn it on anymore

Yup

the last season of the leftovers is probably one of the best seasons of a tv drama ive seen. but of course no one watched it.

Wait, so I haven't seen this show, but does it seriously start off at that same New York Dolls gig that kicks off the Will Hermes book? Seems like kind of a ripoff, since I haven't seen him credited in any way (though, from what y'all have been saying, I guess he might not want credit).

man the fuckin bo diddley scene

First 10 mins of episode 2 so much better than the entirety of 1. Maybe it was Marty?

Ok. Wait. Now the VU and Nico have made an appearance. Wow.

Lol wut this was straight garbage. I'm done.

Yeah this is terrible. Hahaha

pros: looks great, cast of sidekicks is entertaining, cons: everything else is fucking nauseatingly bad

Wish the music sounded like live music. It does a bit with the New York Dolls song, but VU didn't sound or feel live and took me out of the thing. Hope this gets Ray Romano some quality roles in the future, at least.

the needle-drops every 30 seconds are so oppressive. The Velvets! The Carpenters! CCR! Stevie Wonder! all within the space of five minutes, just so lazy and stupid.

scorsese has lost his mind. uh not that i've seen this. but i think he has. i couldn't bring myself to watch wolf on wall street. just the trailer alone gave me a headache. he should direct some quiet one-act plays in his golden years.

WOWS is great. this is not. and he didn't direct the 2nd episode.

have we talked about how terrible all the pointless faked musical interludes are - here's Jerry Lee Lewis, playing a song that has no piano on it! Here's a woman dancing around with a tambourine! just gtfo

Woman with tambourine was Ruth Brown singing her hit song, but yeah, not clear why these interludes are there(Ruth was on Atlantic I guess)

In the HBO filler bit regarding the pilot episode they of course admit that the NY Dolls were not onstage at the Mercer Arts Center when the building collapsed, but it works better that way in the story.

I don't think the brutal murder/self-defense bit in the 1st episode worked.

the needle-drops every 30 seconds are so oppressive. The Velvets! The Carpenters! CCR! Stevie Wonder! all within the space of five minutes, just so lazy and stupid.

― Οὖτις, Monday, February 22, 2016 12:20 PM (52 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

scorsese has lost his mind. uh not that i've seen this. but i think he has. i couldn't bring myself to watch wolf on wall street. just the trailer alone gave me a headache. he should direct some quiet one-act plays in his golden years.

― scott seward, Monday, February 22, 2016 12:22 PM (50 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

WOWS is great. this is not. and he didn't direct the 2nd episode.

― Οὖτις, Monday, February 22, 2016 12:24 PM (48 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I agree that WOWS is great, and the way it incorporates music sits in stark contrast to the fumblings in Vinyl. Robbie Robertson was Scorsese's music consultant on Goodfellas, Casino, and WOWS, and the music cues on all of them are brilliant. Apparently, Robertson had nothing to do with Vinyl.

the needle-drops every 30 seconds are so oppressive. The Velvets! The Carpenters! CCR! Stevie Wonder! all within the space of five minutes, just so lazy and stupid.

this shit drove me bananas

it's like the showrunners are afraid you're going to get that this show is about the music maaaaaaann

to FORGET

is it true that scorsese had never heard of ray romano before he cast him in the part? read that today.

this show should have just been about ray romano as a mild-mannered accountant for roulette records-style mob front in the 60's who gets in over his head with some risky business and all that. would totally watch that in a second.

(but then who ends up a big record mogul in hollywood in the 70's obviously.)

haha yeah that does sound better!

Romano - who I never cared for in the past - is the best thing in this. Would watch a show centered on his character.

Scott! We almost wrote the same post. Crazy.

Everybody Loves Rayola.

Wouldn't doubt that Romano elevates the scenes he's in. He did the same when he joined (the sometimes weepy) Parenthood in its later seasons.

ray stretched a bit on those seasons of Parenthood that he was on. he brought some weird reality to that white people fever dream world.

parenthood x-post

He has a naturalistic style on Vinyl too that makes everyone around him less credible.

the second episode makes the first episode look like a masterpiece

this show should have just been about ray romano as a mild-mannered accountant for roulette records-style mob front in the 60's who gets in over his head with some risky business and all that. would totally watch that in a second.

― scott seward, Monday, February 22, 2016 1:31 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is otm, didn't realize how much i liked ray ramano lol

um… feel like it's somewhat gross to post shit I wrote…but enough of you guys have identified the same issues that I guess its okay…this has a few ILM dogwhistles as well…

http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/overwrought-nostalgia-gets-in-the-way-of-martin-scorseses-episode-1-of-vinyl-20160215

You guys never saw that show Men of a Certain Age with Romano and Andre Braugher, did you? It was surprisingly good. Scott Bakula was in it, too, and even he was tolerable.

this show feels like it exists in marc maron's brain

Yeah I think I'm gunna drop this. Pure cheese. Ray Romano was good, but please don't overlook Bobby Cannavale, who is doing great stuff with the material he is given. Also Juno Temple I have a creepy obsession with (to the extent of writing comic books about her in the past). Which one is the Jagger kid, is he the singer in that band? He is BAD, whoever he is. Warhol wrong as well.

John Cameron Mitchell's Warhol was like some shitty David Spade impression.

Crispin Glover's Warhol wasn't bad.

Poor Robert Plant. He didnt deserve that.

Crispin Glover's Warhol wasn't bad.

def one of my favorite onscreen portrayals. (I doubt it's veracity but sure is fun)

the two scripts so far have been godawful in a way that no amount of visuals and vibes could ever fix. which is ironic for a show whose central premise is that bands and singers and basically all music is meaningless if there isn't a "song" there. the entire show is basically the very thing that its own characters have spent three hours railing against so far.

Crispin Glover > Jared Harris > David Bowie > was that John Cameron Mitchell? fuck I used to respect him

yeah that's how I'd rank the good ones too

I don't hate the show as much as anyone here, but I haven't seen the second ep yet.

I will say that the show will definitely suffer from Studio 60 syndrome, where the comedy show that everyone was raving about in the world of the show was neither good nor funny. (Forget the cast and the hype and the acclaimed creator parallels for a sec...actually nevermind, Vinyl is Studio 60). The music on Vinyl will never be nearly as good as the people on the show act like it is and considering how clunky the writing is when they describe the actually good music featured on the show, I'm sort of scared to see that.

2nd ep of this was a lot better than the 1st

still not ~good~ exactly but ill @ least watch another

Just realized WKRP did this better.

Wolf of Wall Street was horrendous.

anyway HBO has ordered seaon 2 of this.