Shady scams and other silly business ideas to take advantage of earnest new vinyl collectors

Arthur Lyman LPs rule btw

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No prices listed... the original shady scam to take advantage of new vinyl buyers.

― skip

so, so true

see also: Bop Street in Seattle

The record shop I liked in Seattle was the one that opens early serves breakfast. All my favorite things in one place!

Going back to those half-speeds for a minute (or would that be two, or 30 seconds, or...), I like in the posted article that it's mentioned you really can't hear the difference unless you have a deluxe set-up, which definitely gets lost in the discussion of such matters. OTOH, the snake oil aspect of this process is reinforced my the fact that some of the titles in this first lot (particularly Exile... & Fire and Water) are notoriously murky productions, allowing for that "You've never actually heard...until you've heard the half-speed" which is truly buying real estate on a lot that isn't there.

i own multiple arthur lymans, you won't hear any complaints about him from me. one of the best of the cheap LP bin regulars.

i am no rabid audiophile, but good equipment makes a HUGE difference. it really does. i hate to say it, but money can buy you some amazing sound. there's just no way to get around it.

with an amazing needle, table, speakers, etc, an excellent record will open up sound-wise in ways that might surprise you. they bloom! i swear i am not making this up.

but for a Simple Minds album? lol

early simple minds records sound amazing. later ones not so much.

A £200 Pro-Ject Essential II makes a huge difference. You dont need to spend a grand on a TT

listening to one now. leckie majik.

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I don't doubt the difference about equipment...it's just that the real money in regards to selling these new press records (and roached old ones) is in the wallets of people with Crosley Cruisers & such

after empires and dance even better though sound-wise.

if you have to ask the price, you can't afford the yacht
haha this is great...

Yup, made all the more comical that the yacht in question was $15.

sort of related:
there's a record store near me that regularly posts pics of "new arrivals" on facebook, and recently I commented, asking the price of one of the records shown.

owner said: "Can't tell you, you have to come in to the store" ... which is odd. I mean, it already had the price tag on it. what difference does it make if he tells me the price?

I wouldn't be able to resist following that up with a phone call myself.

Yeah, that's ridiculous.

My friend who owns a record store posted this article a while back about a shop owner who kept a notebook of all the dumb shit customers have done/said over the years; kinda funny http://dangerousminds.net/comments/how_your_pretentious_local_record_store

"vnyl" is pronounced to rhyme with "denial", correct?

ss i was have to check that out, i haven't heard early Simple Minds, only know them from the Breakfast Club

the first 7 simple minds records are great. after that, not so great.

playing their first album now.

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terrible picture. sorry. i don't have good lighting over or around my turntable.

I grew up in an era when they dominated the scottish airwaves with utter shite. I keep getting told the early stuff is amazing but i just cant forget how fucking miserable they made me. everyone at school loved them.

If I ever saw their early lps for a quid each id maybe check em out

probably pretty cheap where you are. i don't see nice u.k. pressings of the early stuff around here at all anymore.

if you are a fan of foxx-era ultravox and felt like midge was a drip, then the early run of simple minds records are a PERFECT replacement for vienna fatigue. or i've always felt that way anyway.

i am a fan of Ultravox! with the !

Those early SM albums arent that cheap tho. Its the late 80s ones that are. Belfast Child ep clogs up charity shops everywhere especially. The early ones will be cheaper in the US i bet.

1985 was just a bad year. it happened to lots of people. simple minds from 1979 to 1983, all good.

lots of things turned to shite in 1985. end of a golden era of pop 79-84

i don't think the first simple minds album came out here. the 2nd one came out on PVC here but you REALLY want the u.k. pressing. the third album didn't come out here either. 4th album didn't come out here. you definitely need the original u.k. Virgin pressing of that. 5th album didn't come out here either. new gold dream made them a name here. their 6th album. and found everywhere. then the same with sparkle in the rain. then the john hughes nightmare began.

live aid and its big issues big sound big hair crap to blame

for instance, sister feelings call wasn't released here in the u.s. until 6 years after its release. due to their newfound fame.

all the new horrible phil collins recording tech blowing up by 1985 too. all the stuff that makes everything sound like 1985. 1984 was the end of an era. that's why Crass broke up in 1984.

early simple minds is great if you like velvets/bowie/roxy music/eno/kraftwerk/magazine. real to real cacophony is the best if you like weird artpunk, the next couple (empires & dance, sons & fascination) move towards towards taut funkier sounds, then they start getting a bit more widescreen from new gold dream onwards

scott, life in a day was the debut, real to real cacophony is album #2

my copies of empires and dance and sons and fascination sound wonderful... at the time i thought "hmmm must seek out other polydor stuff from this period"

just for "fidelity" reasons

sorry, i mean ~warmth~

wait a second, simple minds were on virgin. i must be thinking of somebody else.

siouxsie? the passions?

There should be a Simple Minds subscription service... Get on it, VNYL!

small town record stores are the best, really. i went to one in Ithaca this past summer that was in the basement of a bookstore and the prices were wonderful. i'd have bought fifty records if i wasn't on a budget and could easily get them back to L.A.

― nomar, Friday, February 19, 2016 3:30 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yes! I've been there, and it's fabulous. Only store that matches it is Scott's (also in a small town!).

Besides the lower dynamic range, there are other issues that make vinyl worse in sound reproduction, such as the fact that low bass sounds have to be mastered in mono to stop the needle from jumping out of the groove.

― Tuomas, Friday, 19 February 2016 14:15 (9 hours ago) Permalink

Not an issue, because the omnidirectional nature of deep bass makes it difficult to place where it's emanating from. The same reason you only need one subwoofer even on multichannel systems, and why subwoofer placement is far less crucial than midrange or tweeter placement.

Anyway, where is everyone getting their dirt-cheap CDs that have been repeatedly mentioned? Yes I see occasional "I'm selling my whole CD collection for $25" offers that can be major paydirt if their musical tastes overlap mine, but I don't know of anywhere to go to pick out individual CDs for very low prices (save for a few places with very small selections).

idk why anyone would want to own a CD in this day and age. if you want digital files just grab MP3s, is how I see it.

CDs are cool, come on now

Anyway, where is everyone getting their dirt-cheap CDs that have been repeatedly mentioned?

thrift stores, record shows, book/library sales

record stores still seem to think their standard issue used CDs are worth 8 bucks, but they are wrong.

sometimes I can score decent CDs in their budget bins for 3 bucks or something

I don't think I've purchased a CD in ten years.

i just kind of hate the feeling of having all this music crammed onto my laptop.

MP3s are lately starting to cost more than used (and sometimes new) CDs. Also, weird copy protection gremlins, varying bitrates, and hard drive failures all count against MP3s (to say nothing of long-term storage). All of my vinyl records play, but worse than when I bought them; all of my CDs play, and all of them sound the same as the day I first heard them (the oldest is 28 years old). The few MP3s I've purchased, some still play fine (though are at lower bitrates than I would like; didn't know anything about those at the time of purchase), and some mysteriously won't play at all.