If you don't mind keeping your computer on you could use it as a server with software like Serviio
Yeah, this is the same as what Subsonic does, but I chose it because its Android apps have Chromecast support, so you don't have use the mirroring trick I mentioned above. Don't know if Serviio apps have that function too?
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 10 February 2016 13:52 (eight years ago) link
I quite like the AppleTV, the 'hockey puck' ones (version 2 and 3) work great without a TV attached. You'll need an amp that has digital inputs (HDMI or optical) but then you're set. And they're hitting the second hand market in large numbers now that the new one is out, you can pick a perfectly good one up for 40-50 bucks.
what happens if you upload your pirated collection?Nothing, except that it refuses to upload MP3's that were bought on Google Play and subsequently distributed.
― Siegbran, Wednesday, 10 February 2016 13:52 (eight years ago) link
Everything about setting up Sonos has been a dream, the app is amazing, sound quality is great, recognises my server and my shared music fine.
Except for some reason the simple act of trying to add a second phone controller is an absolute fucking nightmare. Anyone else had this problem?
― Matt DC, Thursday, 11 February 2016 21:46 (eight years ago) link
part 1 : phew.part 2 : no idea.
― mark e, Thursday, 11 February 2016 21:57 (eight years ago) link
oh, and this morning i had an update of the app (windows pc as opposed to phone) : it now will connect to Apple Music.
― mark e, Thursday, 11 February 2016 21:58 (eight years ago) link
Also the Soundcloud and Mixcloud integration is fantastic. Just started listening to random old Essential Mixes on my stereo just for the sake of doing so at the touch of a button.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 11 February 2016 22:26 (eight years ago) link
damn, never even thought about connecting sonos to my mixcloud/soundcloud accounts!?
time for mouldy old dough on the stereo properly ...
― mark e, Thursday, 11 February 2016 22:31 (eight years ago) link
basically, i have never looked into the services as i only ever use it to play my local archive ..
― mark e, Thursday, 11 February 2016 22:32 (eight years ago) link
Assuming your second device is connected to your wifi network, what happens when you launch the Sonos app? I didn't have any issues adding a second controller.
― early rejecter, Thursday, 11 February 2016 22:41 (eight years ago) link
Hmmm. There was no problem here with other devices - we've got three phones, and ipad and a laptop successfully controlling it.
― woof, Thursday, 11 February 2016 22:45 (eight years ago) link
It just couldn't find the Sonos, tried several times. Might have been a brief blackout or something but I'll try again tomorrow. My phone stopped seeing it at the same time.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 11 February 2016 22:53 (eight years ago) link
Also right now I'm really regretting allowing 15 years' worth of shitty metadata build up.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 11 February 2016 22:57 (eight years ago) link
Re uploading stuff to google play - what happens if you upload your pirated collection?
I don't know, I don't have any pirated files. :) But if I did, I guess I wouldn't upload them, though I can't seen how Google would differentiate those from legal files... It's not like they're gonna ask me to send receipts for everything I've uploaded.
i have tons of said mp3s on my google drive
― uptown garfunkel (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 11 February 2016 22:59 (eight years ago) link
re soundcloud : bloody hell, if you have not connected, then bill brewsters account is stuffed with brilliance !
hearing this stuff via my stereo as opposed to crappy laptop is a revelation.
― mark e, Thursday, 11 February 2016 23:01 (eight years ago) link
right, makes sense - the one annoyance was moments of it not quite connecting, but I've fiddled with router positioning a bit and that helped.
― woof, Thursday, 11 February 2016 23:14 (eight years ago) link
re router chaos : if the wi-fi is acting up, then turn your electrical power points into a direct ethernet connection to your router. hello tp-link.has transformed my house.advert over.
― mark e, Thursday, 11 February 2016 23:33 (eight years ago) link
Also, check the channel your router is set to. I think SONOS works best on 11. There's documentation about this on their support site.
― brotherlovesdub, Friday, 12 February 2016 01:27 (eight years ago) link
Which TP Link do you have? Tell us more, I could use something like this.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 12 February 2016 02:59 (eight years ago) link
Like Google remotely gives a shit about your pirated music, they know all about it anyway.
― Matt DC, Friday, 12 February 2016 10:18 (eight years ago) link
i'm always fairly impressed by the sound quality. i have one sonos 1 and you can get huge volume and quality - i would say two of them would be a great setup - i keep intending to buy a second one.
― japanese mage (LocalGarda), Friday, 12 February 2016 10:40 (eight years ago) link
i use this to extend my wi-fi, and hardwire my sonos connect into the router via an electricity power point :
http://www.tp-link.com/en/products/details/cat-18_TL-WPA4220.html
there are non wi-fi versions which i have a few. they are a bit cheaper :
http://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-LINK-PA411KIT-Powerline-Adapter-Starter/dp/B0084Y9N3O
― mark e, Friday, 12 February 2016 11:02 (eight years ago) link
Yeah I plugged mine straight into my existing system and it seemed to take little bit of time to warm up, quality-wise, but now it sounds great. Will probably buy a second speaker for the kitchen though.
― Matt DC, Friday, 12 February 2016 11:06 (eight years ago) link
Forgive the dumm question but with a SONOS could I have a speaker in say a totally different room and decide I want to listen to music just on that speaker? And then theoretically someone in another room could listen simultaneously to something different?
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 12 February 2016 11:27 (eight years ago) link
yup
― niels, Friday, 12 February 2016 11:43 (eight years ago) link
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― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 12 February 2016 11:56 (eight years ago) link
I'll second the plug for powerline Ethernet adapters ... I use several to support my multi-room system, the bandwidth and reliability are much better than wifi
― Brad C., Friday, 12 February 2016 17:09 (eight years ago) link
even though the spotify app nominally supports chromecast audio, for some reason i can never see the chromecast in the list of devices unless i first cast something to it from my phone. very annoying...
but i found a solution: https://github.com/andresgottlieb/soundcast
this application that allows you cast the native osx audio to the chromecast. it just puts a little button in the menu bar at the top (just like airplay) that you can press to turn casting on and off. i can now listen to music from itunes, spotify app, anything
― tpp, Saturday, 13 February 2016 12:38 (eight years ago) link
So I went and bought an additional speaker for the kitchen at the weekend, so I guess you could call me a true believer now. Amazed at how powerful and detailed the sound is for quite a small unit (and that the whole house synced up so seamlessly).
― Matt DC, Monday, 22 February 2016 16:36 (eight years ago) link
Like, just being able to press one button on your phone and for an album to immediately play on your hifi and in another room in the house is beyond classic in a way that I hadn't really appreciated in theory.
― Matt DC, Monday, 22 February 2016 16:39 (eight years ago) link
Ha, I know the feeling. I make an effort to moderate my enthusiasm when people ask about wireless streaming options so I don't come across as a corporate shill, but it's hard to overstate the degree to which this system has enhanced the experience of listening to music in my home.
If you have access to an iOS device the Trueplay room tuning is pretty cool -- it really opened up the sound of the Play:1 in the kitchen (they haven't been able to implement it for Android because with so many manufacturers they don't have a standardized internal microphone).
― early rejecter, Monday, 22 February 2016 17:28 (eight years ago) link
I have that Marantz too, and it's frustratingly patchy on the network: AirPlay just dies/drops/refuses to connect quite a lot. It sounds great when it's working, mind.
― stet, Monday, 22 February 2016 18:02 (eight years ago) link
been on an archiving groove of late.
current Sonos stats :
MAX 65000COUNT 59123
at this rate it looks like i have another year before i have to figure out my options.
― mark e, Saturday, 27 February 2016 18:18 (eight years ago) link
Why use a short to hold ids? It's 2016!
― koogs, Saturday, 27 February 2016 18:36 (eight years ago) link
https://en.community.sonos.com/wireless-speakers-228992/future-the-65k-limit-6046321
― mark e, Saturday, 27 February 2016 18:50 (eight years ago) link
limits aside, i love the sonos connect.
i think the way i will workaround this is to switch on media streaming on the NAS.
then tap into the NAS drive using the 'media servers' option as opposed to mapping the folder location as a drive.
pretty certain that will bypass the 65k limit.
― mark e, Saturday, 27 February 2016 18:55 (eight years ago) link
as i approach the 65K limit i came to find out that sonos does not actually support DNLA, so switching on media streaming on my NAS makes no difference.
humph.
― mark e, Thursday, 19 May 2016 16:41 (eight years ago) link
Wait so what's the 65k limit? If I have a laptop with a local iTunes library of say 80k, can a sonos play from that library?
― droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 19 May 2016 17:48 (eight years ago) link
its an inbuilt limit from way back when they started making the hardware (a mix of s/w and ha/w restrictions apparently!).basically, if you have a local digital library of more than 65K individual tracks then sonos cannot index it all.it's a massive issue for people like me with NAS based archives as opposed to the streaming options that sonos has focused on in recent times.i am at 62K at the moment, but still have quite a lot of my cd archive to digitise, hence the eye on the horizon.there are a multitude of options to get around it (set up a stripped back simple windows media server to index the archive, as sonos can 'see' windows media servers), but all the alternatives are rather fiddly.i will probably have two separate digital archives, and index then as and when i need.not ideal, but an easy workaround. however, if sonos enabled DNLA compatibility then all would be lovely, but i am not holding my breath.
― mark e, Thursday, 19 May 2016 18:05 (eight years ago) link
Ugh. I was thinking of getting one but my library is like 85k do I guess it's a no-go. I don't want to do workarounds because the point of getting a sonos would be ease of use. I really just want a speaker that's good enough to fill my 30m2 room and that I can play to from iPhones and my MacBook. I don't currently have any plans for a streaming subscription.
― droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 19 May 2016 18:17 (eight years ago) link
that seems like too much music. how can you guys possibly like/consume that amount of music?
― sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Thursday, 19 May 2016 18:20 (eight years ago) link
The rather similar denon alternative HEOS supports dlna
― niels, Thursday, 19 May 2016 18:21 (eight years ago) link
does that HEOS push a networked digital archive into a hi-fi amp ? i don't do sonos wireless speakers stuff, just the 'sonos connect'.as that seems to the be the best way to feed my archive into my amp easily via a desktop app.(i used to have a set up whereby the amp could see the archive, but the album/track selection was all via an onboard 3 line display - f*cking impossible to use !)
― mark e, Thursday, 19 May 2016 18:38 (eight years ago) link
Have you considered something like Amazon Music? They'll let you upload 250,000 tracks for $25/year and stream through Sonos. 256kbs I think though which I guess isn't enough for some people.
― early rejecter, Thursday, 19 May 2016 19:41 (eight years ago) link
With me, Chromecast + Subsonic virtual server on the computer + Subsonic app on my pad allows me to cast anything as FLACs from my computer to the amp, browse music on the app, create playlists, etc. No upper limits on the library size, AFAIK. I doubt I'll need anything fancier soon.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 19 May 2016 19:44 (eight years ago) link
never seen that before.could be an option.
― mark e, Thursday, 19 May 2016 19:51 (eight years ago) link
ahh .. the small print seems to indicate that you have to be an amazon prime subscriber in the uk, which i have considered signing up for, but still.
― mark e, Thursday, 19 May 2016 19:53 (eight years ago) link
found the option for £21.99 pa. blimey .. yeah, thats a solution.
― mark e, Thursday, 19 May 2016 19:58 (eight years ago) link
actually, it looks like you need to be an amazon prime subscriber to get sonos to connect in, and then upgrade the amazon music option to get the 250k tracks option.as they say on dragons den : 'i'm out .. '(but a cracking idea !)
― mark e, Thursday, 19 May 2016 20:08 (eight years ago) link
yeah it is a lot of music...I don't have a hifi or speakers atm (sold everything prior to moving overseas) so I liked the idea of an integrated speaker/receiver. In principle I'd like a nice system but realistically something for 3-400€ that has a good enough speaker and can p seamlessly handle iPhone / MacBook libraries would be great. Only need it for one room, don't anticipate having a big flat ever again. I don't want to buy used speakers, don't want to spend time searching. And a one-stop solution rather than jigging together various components sounds better, want few /no hassles.
― droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 19 May 2016 20:48 (eight years ago) link
does this have anything to do with george soros?
― “bad” mothers, rebel mamas, and other radical/transgressive moms (nakhchivan), Thursday, 19 May 2016 20:53 (eight years ago) link