Why does anyone like the Fall?

I had the synth line from "Black Door" in my head all day yesterday. Even at under two mins, that song gives me a strong Elastic Man/New Face in Hell vibe. Junger Cloth and Snazzy also work in that really vivid, loopy garage rock mode that MES & co. had moned to such great effect in 1980-81.

*mined

59 years old today. Hbd MES!

Wow. He's only 55 here but looks worse than many people do at 80: http://www.theguardian.com/music/2013/dec/14/mark-e-smith-self-image

Some dispute over his age, some say he was born in 1955.

Shocked to learn (via that Guardian piece) that he's 6'1". Based on his personality I would have put him at about 5'6".

Interestingly, in that article - from December, 2013 - he says he's 55. That would have made him 58 today, so he was lying about his age then.

Or he didn't remember because he's a fuckwitted souse

He doesn't look a day over 70, that's for sure.

Haha I kinda doubt a dude who is bragging about losing his teeth is gonna lie to shave one year off his age

Or bragging about being a "fifty year old man, and I liiiiiiiiiiiike it"

Listen to "Wrong Place, Right Time." If that bass doesn't move you, you are beyond help.

if he's claiming to be 6'1" then I'm gonna start doing so too

Yeah, especially the Peel session version of Wrong Place. Devastating.

Ha Iggy bragged about being 5'1" and can't imagine he's THAT short

Iggy wasn't bragging, he was lamenting.

Iggy is apparently 5'7"...and Smith is actually 5'9". Which goes better with his temperament than 6'1".

He might have been 6'1" at some point in the early eighties, all those wraps of whizz and broken bones have whittled him down into a shorter giacometti type sculpture since!

I am 6ft 1 if that helps.

mark g smith

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I can already tell by your 6'1" temperament.

in other news, Superior Viaduct is reissuing their 1st two singles:

http://www.superiorviaduct.com/collections/2016-punk-singles

I was packing to get ready for moving house and found a stop and search receipt from a few years ago and the cop put my height in as 6'1". I'm actually 6'3" so I expect Mark E. Smith is using the same tape measure.

I thought Smith was a bit taller thnan me when I met him and would have thought it was somewhere aron dthe same height as Nick Cave or Blixa Bargeld. & I think they're both 6' 1 or 2

http://shout.webring.com/people/au/um_474/fa/fall2.jpg

shorter than marc riley, about half an inch taller than bramah, towers over yvonne pawlett, karl burns is possibly a giant?

I'm 6'2" and Blixa Bargeld is pretty close to my height. (Interviewed him in person once. Felt grossly under-dressed.)

Why does anyone like anything?

Felt grossly under-dressed.

to be fair I think he makes everybody feel that way all the time

Riley is tall. And there's that Creppers song that goes "I'm a tall guy I'm taller than him but he's really bigger."

Isn't Cave like 6 4?

i'm 6'4" and i spoke with cave once and he was not as tall as me. 6'1-2" sounds about right.

Is anyone taller than Jim Sclavunos?

Why does anyone like The Tall?

There's no way Iggy is 5'7"

Mark is short. The Fall are short.

Felt grossly under-dressed.

Can we leave Lawrence out of this please?

Eric Bachman from Archers of Loaf/Crooked Fingers is really tall

this thread has taken an incredibly amusing turn

if you think about it there's an incredibly wide range of height among people who do music, from really short to kind of short and then you've got tall, regular tall, very tall

"when I sit down to listen to them, all I hear is an unrehearsed band with a tone deaf lead singer, and absolutley no hooks."

this is why we like them

those reasons and also the heights of the various members of the band

DID YOU KNOW? If you take the average height of all of the members of The Fall over the years, that equals... the same height as MES #spooky

I read that book The Fallen and I forgot who it was but one former member didn't even have a height

I really can't believe that average. Nobody's been as much taller than MES as Brix was shorter have they?

For a couple months in 1997 or 98 Tommy Crooks and Neville Winding were exactly the same height, that didn't last

if the fall were in a hole, what would the minimum depth of the hole be if you cannot see the top of mark's head when observing it from a distance? assume that he is not standing on the face of one of his bandmates

you've got to provide a distance—curvature of the earth etc.

And the answer is.. Mark Riley!
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/48/Fallinahole.jpg/220px-Fallinahole.jpg

"Ten times my age, one tenth my height"

Finally!!!

RECORD STORE DAY 2016 > The Fall - The Real New Fall LP (Formerly Country on the Click)

Event: RECORD STORE DAY 2016
Release Date: 4/16/2016
Format: 12" Colored Vinyl
Label: Narnack Records
Catalog: NCK 7067
Release type: 'RSD First' Release
MORE INFO
Having not been avail outside of a 2k pressing in 2004 – Narnack Records represses for Record Store Day of one of the strongest The Fall albums in the band’s 30 year existence. This re-mastered, limited edition, features red/black a/b-side vinyl and a download card as well as two new tracks and two alternate mixes.

wary of colored vinyl but I have been waiting for this