Does Chapterhouse's 'Whirpool' stand up today?

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did anyone up in this bitch check out inner sleeve, featuring the drummer from slowdive and the bass player from chapterhouse? they were grate.

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Friday, 27 May 2005 00:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Sounds went bust back in about March or April 1991, long before the Reading festival.

I'm aware of that - I have the last issue somewhere (The Wonderstuff are on the cover). I was just jamming Sounds in there to complete the thought.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 27 May 2005 07:54 (twenty-one years ago)

they did Die die die at the T&C gig I was at in september or October 91 which was absolutely rammed, they also played just the one song off of screamadelica as entrance music,......about seven times over (well, the dj played it, not them of course) possibly don't fight it feel it.

Porkpie (porkpie), Friday, 27 May 2005 14:56 (twenty-one years ago)

three months pass...
the next time i play 'out' i'm going to try and see if i can't throw in as much popnoisey shoegaze as possible - mbv's SOON, chapterhouse's PEARL etc.

i'm real surprised how much this stuff stands up.

slowdive on the other hand...

piscesboy, Friday, 2 September 2005 15:23 (twenty years ago)

andrew sherriff has an emmy.
from earlier, i always thought autosleeper and angel sigh were really similar but i suppose it was just the quiet/loud/quiet formula.
i remember seeing them play live and then going home to listen to the show because i had taped it off of the radio, it sounded better live.

keith m (keithmcl), Friday, 2 September 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)

Back in the spring got the urge to pull 'Blood Music' outta the music closet just once more to see if I'd missed anything from all those years ago. (And how many times have you done that?) I'll be damned if I didn't end up cueing up "There's Still Life" fifty times this summer. At the end it drags, but otherwise GOLD!

bkjj40a (bkjj40a), Saturday, 3 September 2005 01:12 (twenty years ago)

seven months pass...
Stylus reviewed this today, as it's being re-issued:

http://www.stylusmagazine.com/reviews/chapterhouse/whirlpool.htm

Does anyone know if this is remastered as well? Don't think it needs it but was wondering none-the-less. Also wondering what seven songs were added to this, as Amazon doesn't say?

BeeOK (boo radley), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 01:36 (twenty years ago)

it's the b-sides from the singles from the album, all of them are terrific. no mesmerise ep though which doesn't make any sense as it fits with whirlpool more than with anything that came later.

keyth (keyth), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 02:19 (twenty years ago)

wow that review doesn't say a thing, but then it is on stylus, so it is par for the course.

keyth (keyth), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 02:25 (twenty years ago)

two years pass...

And yet another reissue... This time from Space Age Recordings

CAT NO: ORBIT047CD
FORMAT: CD
PRICE: £10.00
RELEASE DATE: 27th APRIL 2009

PRE-ORDERS TAKEN NOW FOR DISPATCH ON MONDAY 20th APRIL

PRE-ORDER NOW

INFORMATION:

Hailing from Reading in the late 80's/early 90's, Chapterhouse were leaders in the British Shoegazing movement. Rehearsing for well over a year before committing anything to demo for record companies, Chapterhouse quickly reached the top of their game with their peak arguably being a performance following Nirvana at the 1991 Reading Festival.

Releases from Chapterhouse have been very hard to track down, due to being out-of-print for many years. Thankfully Space Age Recordings is about to rectify this. A re-issue of the original Whirlpool recordings from VHF Studios Rugby, Sawmills Cornwall, Stoneroom Studios London and Refuge in Reading is set to be released for physical distribution and via iTunes. Featuring three extra tracks, including the never before released 'Thrasher' and longer/alternate mixes of 'Something More', 'Rain' and 'Guilt'.

Tracklist:

1. Breather
2. Pearl
3. Autosleeper
4. Treasure
5. Falling Down
6. April
7. Guilt
8. If You Want Me
9. Something More (ambient version)
10. Rain (alternative version)
11. Thrasher
12. Guilt (long version)

Carroll Shelby Downard (Elvis Telecom), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 19:21 (seventeen years ago)

Not sure too many people regard that as their peak.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 19:33 (seventeen years ago)

I was about to say, from what I recall most of the reaction to that show made it seem the band went 'great, we have to follow Nirvana mere nano-seconds after they perform and right when "Smells Like Teen Spirit" got released'

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 19:48 (seventeen years ago)

the other Whirlpool that was released in 1991...
http://www.kompaktkiste.de/cd/_123/_1/15911912.jpg

henry s, Wednesday, 15 April 2009 12:46 (seventeen years ago)

Saw 'em live in 93 or so and they pwned, tho it is probably pretty hard not to sound awesome in a cavernous room with three guitarists and a bazillion effects pedals.

SORCEROUSES..roll on stage! (Pillbox), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 13:07 (seventeen years ago)

Oh God! Dr Phibes, I really loved that band, they were great live too, didn't Howard the singer/guitarist kill his mother or something?

MaresNest, Wednesday, 15 April 2009 13:21 (seventeen years ago)

Wow, wasn't Dr. Phibes House of Wax Equations or something? They had a decent single, if memory serves.

Chapterhouse's "Pearl" still stand up, despite dated-sounding, at the time de-rigeur breathy vox.

Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 15 April 2009 13:54 (seventeen years ago)

yes, Howard King killed his ma, and yes, they had a decent single ("Hazy Lazy Hologram")...I wanted to love them more than I did, mainly because of their name and image...

henry s, Wednesday, 15 April 2009 14:47 (seventeen years ago)

That's the one ("Hazy Lazy..."). I have a live recording of it on some compilation. He killed his mother? Jeez.

Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 15 April 2009 15:56 (seventeen years ago)

Haha! Dr. Phibes. I'm delighted someone else remembers that record besides me. I really dug it back in the day. I used to have it on cassette but got it on vinyl only a couple years ago. I think I'll pull out my CD-R in a minute here. Don't want to think about the guy killing his mother, though.

I saw Chapterhouse live back then and they were awesome. I was really poor at the time and I remember thinking "do I really want to go to this, or spend the money on food" because I was really hungry. I decided to go to the gig anyway. Spitfire opened, if memory serves. They weren't a particularly remarkable band.

Take The Gothheads Bowling (Bimble), Thursday, 16 April 2009 07:07 (seventeen years ago)

six months pass...

There should be a Microsoft Word macro/wizard for these press releases now. Clippy says "I see you are reforming a band, would you like some assistance?"

October 12, 2009:: Chapterhouse tour information
The band has told me that they will play in the US and Japan in 2010. "It will be a very concise tour of the major cities" in the US, New York, California and Williamsburg(!) are probable areas. No dates have been announced as they aren't sure if they will be playing the US in February or May of 2010. They will be playing Japan in April 2010. Once I get info about UK dates, I will let you know. Here is what Stephen said, "We never anticipated doing this but we are doing it for the enjoyment of playing together again and for fans of the band to see us play live once more".

The band asked me to spread the word. "This is a one-off thing for us so we hope to get it out to as many people as possible within our limited timescale".

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 06:42 (sixteen years ago)

weird... i bought this album yesterday in a bargain bin for 1 euro..

i never bought it at the time, despite seeing them live at least once. My initial listen tells me the drum machines sound a little dated.

Deluxe Merseybeat Wig (Jack Battery-Pack), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 07:24 (sixteen years ago)

three months pass...

http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2010/02/reformed_chapte.html

Chapterhouse play Japan in April before heading to America. May 3, 2010 show at the Bell House in Brooklyn is the only U.S. show announced so far but expect more cities soon.

Bee OK, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 04:02 (sixteen years ago)

the london show : 18th march @ the scala with engineers according to advert in new mojo.

mark e, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 09:22 (sixteen years ago)

I still haven't seen the reformed Chapterhouse. I'm kinda scared. I'm tempted by the Engineers support, but hasn't half the band quite/been sacked since the last show? (I know they seem to do this every few years off and on but still.)

There's Always Been A Dance Element To (Masonic Boom), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 10:33 (sixteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

From the official site:

2010 Shows

UK

18th March - Scala, London (with Engineers & Air Formation) **BUY TICKETS**

JAPAN

6th April - Ebisu Liquid Room, Tokyo, Japan (with Ulrich Schnauss)

8th April - Osaka, Japan (with Ulrich Schnauss)

9th April - Super Deluxe, Tokyo, Japan (with Ulrich Schnauss)

USA

1st May- Horseshoe Tavern, Toronto (with Ulrich Schnauss)

3rd May - The Bell House, Brooklyn, NY (with Ulrich Schnauss)

5th May - Lincoln Hall, Chicago (with Ulrich Schnauss)

6th May - Tractor Tavern, Seattle (with Ulrich Schnauss)

7th May - Troubadour, LA (with Ulrich Schnauss)

8th May - Mezzanine, San Francisco (with Ulrich Schnauss)

(The band have tried to fit as many US dates as possible into the limited time they have available & apologise that these dates are so few in number. Now the gigs are confirmed we hope that fans will make an effort to travel to their nearest show)

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 17:14 (sixteen years ago)

Whoa!

gabourey voltaire (Stevie D), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 17:23 (sixteen years ago)

and SUPER DUPER UGH at the realization that I have three classes and two papers to hand in on May 3

gabourey voltaire (Stevie D), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 17:24 (sixteen years ago)

I'm going to the London show on Thurs.

I don't know anything about the Engineers, but people seem to like them.

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 17:26 (sixteen years ago)

ten months pass...

really intriguing band. i recently came across a song of theirs called 'come heaven'. it sounds like radiohead's 'street spirit' dragged through a storm cloud. obviously it's far more interesting as a result.

whirlpool is quite the loose canon. it comes stocked with a slew of curve balls and never quite snags a uniform feel or sound. i think it benefits as a result. while it borrows from other bands' sounds, it also defies the one-trick method, which was often applied in the shoegaze genre to stagnating effect. 'breather', for instance, fuses the flat-out verve and urgency of ride's best work with the languor of just for a day era slowdive, forging something quite unique in the process.

charlie h, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 21:03 (fifteen years ago)

I wonder sometimes if they would have just been captured best live.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 21:12 (fifteen years ago)

i think they have all the elements in place to be an exhilarating live band. i'm sorry i wasn't able to catch one of their shows last year.

charlie h, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 21:45 (fifteen years ago)

i think this was the first thread i ever started on ILM

World Series champion San Francisco Giants (Bee OK), Thursday, 20 January 2011 05:00 (fifteen years ago)

i love whirlpool. that's all. it all went wrong when the drummer mentioned that he had a song.

keythhtyek, Friday, 21 January 2011 03:46 (fifteen years ago)

I wonder sometimes if they would have just been captured best live.

After seeing them last year, I would agree.

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Friday, 21 January 2011 05:01 (fifteen years ago)

when the drummer mentioned that he had a song.

i hope you mean bates and not simon scott

whole lotta cocorosie (electricsound), Friday, 21 January 2011 05:03 (fifteen years ago)

I'm generally not too big on the Blood Music-era recordings either, but, echoing the sentiments of others, those songs sounded pretty terrific live iirc.

Blazes Boyband (Pillbox), Friday, 21 January 2011 05:38 (fifteen years ago)

eight months pass...

right well the version of Something More on the reissue isn't the one that was on the original CD/ tape. and it's not the ambient version, that's something else.

THIS version, is nowhere to be found

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vJghdFjk7g

W and indeed TF?

piscesx, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 05:10 (fourteen years ago)

i guess the reissue switched the (Guthrie produced?) album version for the single mix which is this and which i'd NEVER heard until just now. 20 years after it came out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tpDpgiyzf4

piscesx, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 05:12 (fourteen years ago)

they did a re-recording of pearl for a japan floods benefit album. it's serviceable

ballarat organ quartet (electricsound), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 05:14 (fourteen years ago)

this album really needs to be polled

Bee OK, Saturday, 22 October 2011 07:37 (fourteen years ago)

were it polled, pearl would surely win by a substantial margin.

Something More is the correct answer, tho

now they know how many holes it takes to ban buffandmaxsmom (Pillbox), Saturday, 22 October 2011 09:22 (fourteen years ago)

yeah.

piscesx, Saturday, 22 October 2011 10:41 (fourteen years ago)

nine years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-DkizO0o88

Maresn3st, Monday, 31 May 2021 12:56 (five years ago)

I played it many times over about a fortnight ago. It holds up marvellously if you like this kind of thing. In fact maybe it sounds better now than it did then?

the pinefox, Monday, 31 May 2021 22:11 (five years ago)

i think this is the first thread i ever started on ILXor, did post in other already started threads before this one.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 07:45 (five years ago)

two months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OMoJl2Q41c

Maresn3st, Monday, 23 August 2021 12:27 (four years ago)

Chapterhouse - live at The Reading Festival, UK 23rd August 1991

i was there. memories are that the sound got blown around by the wind and it wasn't great. the t-shirts were though.

koogs, Monday, 23 August 2021 12:38 (four years ago)

(can't find a picture. think classic motorhead tshirt but with the face of a kitten instead of the skull)

koogs, Monday, 23 August 2021 12:40 (four years ago)

You can hear the sound moving around, period festival recordings off the floor are rarely good.

Maresn3st, Monday, 23 August 2021 13:13 (four years ago)

(the band before were nirvana, the band after were mudhoney, neither of which i remember)

koogs, Monday, 23 August 2021 14:32 (four years ago)


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