Let's figure out Dream Theater.

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Yes always had a much stronger sense of group interplay than, say, Mahavishnu Orchestra.

THANK YOU.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Even with Wakeman?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, but Mahavishnu is cool. Yes are dorks.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm actually finding that I prefer Return To Forever (only the four albums from Hymn Of The Seventh Galaxy through Romantic Warrior) to Mahavishnu right now. And I prefer Yes to either.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually I just like Yes a lot more. I don't know if they actually have better group interplay because MO just turns me off in a way that makes it hard for me to evaluate critically. I don't know how the guy who played In a Silent Way, Jack Johnson, and On the Corner (even Aura!) could have come up with something that feels so cold and repellent to me. I dunno, Ned, Wakeman must bug you a lot more than he bugs me. I actually really like, say, the doodles on "And You and I", the riffs on "Siberian Khatru", and the synth floats and piano breaks on "Heart of the Sunrise".

BTW how are McLaughlin's collaborations with U. Srinivas (whom I like a lot)?

sundar subramanian (sundar), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I dunno, Ned, Wakeman must bug you a lot more than he bugs me.

He *really* bugs me, and not just in the context of Yes. I'm glad he left the Strawbs when he did.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Was he in Shakti, Sundar?

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:02 (twenty-one years ago)

'Cause his name doesn't ring a bell, but Shakti is great.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I Wakeman. Thas right.


Ned - you can hate me now.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 19 August 2004 22:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I (heart) Wakeman, that is.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 19 August 2004 22:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh dear.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I stopped hearting Wakeman ever since Journey to the Centre of his Arse.

Dirty Muriel (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Jordan, it appears that he is in Remember Shakti. (He's a mandolin player.) And so, it seems, is Hariprasad Chaurasiya (flute), whom I also love.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 20 August 2004 00:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Holy shit you were right Jordan, Shakti is fucking awesome.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 01:12 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
This thread got me curious about this band, as the only thing I had ever heard from Dream Theatre is that they suck, so I borrowed a live from "Budokan" CD from a guy at work.

While there are definite moments of cheeze, there are some parts that were better than expected. The keyboard player doing all that wack Danny Elfman knicked stuff and the prissy vocalist bring the whole thing really down. All they need is Jon Lord and Ronnie James Dio and this could be a OK band.

Shakti is freaking insane, especially those high speed unison lines they get going.

A few weeks back, I picked up RTF's Romantic Warrior out of a used bin. I never had that one and boy there some cheeze on that one, especially on the second side. I don't know if it is because of punk rock or whatever, but it definitely seems true that all of those fusion bands lost it after 74-75 (excepting some of the ECM stuff, which really isn't that much like the rawk fusion made by all of those guys that played in Miles band but still gets labeled as 'fusion').

Earl Nash (earlnash), Sunday, 5 February 2006 05:05 (twenty years ago)

I always think this band is bigger than they are because of their internet fanbase. I've witnessed large portions of non-music websites rally to have a meetup just because it's being held at a DT anniversary concert.

Cunga (Cunga), Sunday, 5 February 2006 05:17 (twenty years ago)

Be sure to read, if you have not already, this review of Petrucci's 'instructional DVD'

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 5 February 2006 05:59 (twenty years ago)

Oh my...I remember laughing at the original posts before the reviews, but that Petrucci review is classic. It is not as funny as the Albania thread on ILE, but it is in the same ballpark.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Sunday, 5 February 2006 06:27 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...
My friend's band are supporting Dream Theater in the UK soon - should I go and see them?

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 May 2007 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

It'll be high comedy.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 3 May 2007 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

two months pass...

THESE GUYS ARE SICK!!!

Z S, Sunday, 22 July 2007 15:38 (eighteen years ago)

is that tony levin on STICK??

M@tt He1ges0n, Sunday, 22 July 2007 18:16 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah it is. Only the modified bass stick can handle Tony Levin's breathtaking virtuosity.

Z S, Sunday, 22 July 2007 18:18 (eighteen years ago)

Best comment on there:

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Ned Raggett, Sunday, 22 July 2007 18:21 (eighteen years ago)

the stick bass just makes me mad when i see it....

anyway yeah dream theater. i grew up on guitar magz so you know it's all good.

the real underground shit is shrapnel records shit though, that's tru wank. david t chastain and tony macapline and paul gilbert and blues saraceno and all those dudez.

M@tt He1ges0n, Sunday, 22 July 2007 18:22 (eighteen years ago)

stu hamm

M@tt He1ges0n, Sunday, 22 July 2007 18:22 (eighteen years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8f/Portnoy.jpg

Oilyrags, Sunday, 22 July 2007 18:46 (eighteen years ago)

I'm assuming there's a giant gong where the photographer is standing, but until I see it, Portnoy gets no respect from me.

Z S, Sunday, 22 July 2007 18:49 (eighteen years ago)

the SS Bozzio

http://grm.martin.free.fr/photosgraym/terrybozzio1.jpg

M@tt He1ges0n, Sunday, 22 July 2007 18:53 (eighteen years ago)

While, uh, 'researching' Dream Theater on wikipedia, I've discovered that half the band is married to half the chick-metal band Meanstreak. That strikes me as even more fucked up than the drumsets.

Oilyrags, Sunday, 22 July 2007 18:57 (eighteen years ago)

It is not clear to me whether all three couples were married at once, or if it's like some six-way open marriage or what.

Oilyrags, Sunday, 22 July 2007 18:59 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe they were just annoyed with their husbands making love to their instruments rather than to them and decided to get even.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 22 July 2007 19:31 (eighteen years ago)

There are many musicians whose styles may be legitimately compared to making love to their instruments. I'm reasonable certain that no member of Dream Theater fits this category.

Oilyrags, Sunday, 22 July 2007 19:41 (eighteen years ago)

they fingerbang their instruments

M@tt He1ges0n, Sunday, 22 July 2007 19:51 (eighteen years ago)

There are many ways to make love, oilyrags.

Z S, Sunday, 22 July 2007 19:53 (eighteen years ago)

I'm not counting all that ridiculous "chili trombone" "rusty sanchez" stuff.

Oilyrags, Sunday, 22 July 2007 20:04 (eighteen years ago)

From WFMU: http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2007/08/you-better-not-.html

I think he signs off with the word "n00b"

Cunga, Friday, 3 August 2007 02:59 (eighteen years ago)

Lord. (I was compelled to post a comment linking to the review of the Rock Discipline DVD on here.)

Ned Raggett, Friday, 3 August 2007 03:03 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

Kind of embarrassing to revive a Dream Theater for the second time but here goes.

This is DREAM THEATER:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b5/Jordan_Rudess_%28H.I.%29.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9e/John_Myung2_%28H.I.%29.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/09/James_LaBrie_%28H.I.%29.jpg

Z S on the internet (Z S), Thursday, 13 November 2008 05:10 (seventeen years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/77/Mike_Portnoy.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8d/John_Petrucci_%28H.I.%29.jpg

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Z S on the internet (Z S), Thursday, 13 November 2008 05:11 (seventeen years ago)

This was the turning-the-clock-around album for Dream Theater. Mike Portnoy said that this album nearly killed Dream Theater because the record company wanted them to make a commercial album. I despise it when a record company tells you what to do, but Dream Theater compromised. Part of it you would expect to hear on Images and Words or Awake, and some you would go "HUH?"

1.New Millenium-Very techno-ish intro. This is not a great album-opener, but it's a great song. 4.5/5

2.You Not Me-This is the very commercial "huh?" song. Although it tried to be mainstream, I still liked it. Very short solo, however. 4/5

3.Peruvian Skies-The classics begin. This is a very nice soothing ballad turns rocker song. Intresting lyrics about someone named Vanessa. I think it's about child rebellion. Very good instrumental part. 5/5

4.Hollow Years-One of the best Dream Theater songs recorded. This is a regular pop ballad with Spanish influences. It may sound like every other pop ballad, but at least this one has a solo, and good lyrics. Very nice. 5/5

5.Burning My Soul-Did Dream Theater write that? NO WAY! This is an ultra heavy song. It's like Dream Theater taking a stab at Metallica, and they succeed. Great riff. Also, one of the best solos from Derek Sherenian. It sounds like a guitar! I guess the record swines wanted it to be a single. To the record industry: WAKE UP! No offense or anything to the fans, but do you realize who was popular in 1997? HANSON! Do you really think Burning My Soul would get anywhere? Nope, it sounds good! Can't let that happen! See my point? 5/5

6.Hell's Kitchen-It's ok, they could've done better than this. This sounds like a instrumental climax that should've been left in a 14-minute song. Actually, it was the instrumental part in Burning my Soul, but I guess that they let it out so that Burning My Soul could try to be a single. 3.5/5

7.Lines In The Sand-Pure Dream Theater. This is another 12 minute masterpiece. It has a great intro, probably one of the longest for Dream Theater, and the singer from King's X is in it (I forgot his name). Not a great instrumental part, but it still rocks! 4.5/5

8.Take Away My Pain-Great ballad. The guitar has a Police-vibe to it. Good lyrics. Also, a very soothing chorus. I like the bass in this one. No one gives John Myung credit. He's probably one of the greatest bassisits out there. 4.5/5

9.Just Let Me Breathe-A little dissapointing, but good lyrics. 3/5

10.Anna Lee-Nice ballad about child abuse. Very good piano line. 4.5/5

11.Trail of Tears-The geatest epic on this. Let's do this part by part:

I-It's Raining-Very nice intro, and a good jazz like verse. Intresting lyrics about wasted years. I like the chorus. It's got a good hook to it. 5/5

II-Deep In Heaven-Great solos by John and Derek. John's is more crazy, Derek's is more planned. Very nice. 5/5

III-The Wasteland-Great ending. Where is this Wasteland, might I add? Good guitar riff from John. The ending is very soothing, and it's a great ending to a great album. 5/5

YESSSSS

TOMBOT, Thursday, 13 November 2008 05:18 (seventeen years ago)

Well, we obviously know that John Petrucci, John Myung, and Mike Portnoy are incredible musicians. John Petrucci's guitar work here is, IMO, his most tasteful, and easily his least flashy, but possibly his best. John Myung is a talented and humble bass player. On "New Millenium" he uses a Chapman Stick, which shows how diverse and talented he is. Mike's drumming definitely did not stand out here as much as previous albums, or as much as later albums, but it's still obviouse that he's an incredible drummer. James LaBrie has an amazing voice, not much else can be said on that. So, what about the new keyboardist, Derek Sherinian? Well, he's pretty good. Not quite the songwriter Kevin was, and not quite the technical player Jordan is, but hey, if he was hired by Dream Theater, don't you think he must be good? Well, he is.

this shit a fuckin goldmine

TOMBOT, Thursday, 13 November 2008 05:19 (seventeen years ago)

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t214/ZachRScott/JAMESLABRIE.gif

Z S on the internet (Z S), Thursday, 13 November 2008 05:27 (seventeen years ago)

Where IS this wasteland??!

(This thread was all worth it for Aaron's demolition of that Petrucci DVD.)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 13 November 2008 05:30 (seventeen years ago)

amazon review threads Ned, pretty sure you can just pick any album and go to town

TOMBOT, Thursday, 13 November 2008 05:42 (seventeen years ago)

Z S on the internet (Z S), Thursday, 13 November 2008 05:42 (seventeen years ago)

Z S on the internet (Z S), Thursday, 13 November 2008 05:43 (seventeen years ago)

^ James LaBrie action figure ^

Z S on the internet (Z S), Thursday, 13 November 2008 05:43 (seventeen years ago)



OK. OK. It's over.

Z S on the internet (Z S), Thursday, 13 November 2008 05:45 (seventeen years ago)

unitard

goole, Thursday, 13 November 2008 05:46 (seventeen years ago)


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