Are you cool with forks making Spotify playlists out of every rolling thread without permission?

no, i can hear the inferior album version if i choose to :/

thinking about this further, i think there is a difference between approaching art as a creator and approaching art as a listener. for me, at least, doing creative work is about expressing my individual experience, but listening for me is intensely social, a way of connecting with other people. in a world that too often seems to be dominated by meaningless and petty hatreds, i see music as a powerful way of overcoming those divisions.

lex on lex

Lol you pompous, dishonest twat

listening for me is intensely social, a way of connecting with other people

I don't understand, do you mean other people as in other people around you while you're listening or as in the people who created the music?

other listeners, not creators. not necessarily listening at the same time in the same place, but people who know the songs and who are affected by the songs- developing the ability to relate in the same way to roughly identical stimuli helps me relate better to other people.

Thread got lolsy again

Unlike you ever will

^ makes a living from writing, folks.

kinda respect you backing yr typically vapid philosophy espoused upthread by making yrself such an easy hate figure (the better for others to follow the path, presumably?)

substance vmnic

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Still mulling over my vote
Lots of issues to consider

village idiot and right-wing cunt darraghmac keeps speaking

stop

You gotta stop showing yr class so early in skirmishes sweetie

you gotta stop

you

And then? And then?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfKXCaPvmrM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFyr49TwuiI

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Considering the only comprehensible argument against Forks's lists (anti-streaming) is precluded by the threads' use of YouTube, I'll just chalk this thread up to drunk posting and never click here again. Gotta avoid unnecessary brain hemorrhaging; Dr's orders.

Where did the man without the mattress go, anyway?

"Alice Cullen" on @Wikipedia: "She was MP for the Gorbals at the time of 'The Gorbals Vampire' incident in September 1954 when hundreds of schoolchildren went searching a cemetery armed with stakes to find 'a vampire with iron teeth'. This sparked legislation to prevent the sale of American horror comics to minors which she supported, along with all the other Glasgow MP's."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Cullen?wprov=sfti1

lol oops wrong clipboard

He asked lexicographer Susie Dent where the phrase "he's thinking of going to the mattresses", uttered in the film The Godfather, came from. Susie said the phrase means 'to go to war with a rival clan'. She explained that mattresses feature a lot in Italian folklore; in the 16th century, during times of war, people were said to hang mattresses down the sides of towers in order to minimise damage from cannon fire.

this is absurdly basic. leaving aside the thornier issues surrounding enjoyment and end goals of listening to music, everyone listens with a negative awareness. the possibility of excellence requires the possibility of failure. if everything sounds glorious then our critical faculties are not required

Ogmor OTM three times over.

Like I can see why Joan would view this differently to Lex (or specifically why performers/creators would approach the issue differently to fans/critics). But still, taking that to its extreme, who wants to be the guy stroking his chin in faux-magnanimity at the collective works of Rick Witter, going "hmmm, how can I meet the artist half way in what he was trying to achieve here, how can I better appreciate his no doubt numerous musical successes that I just need to understand to unlock?"

You see this from the fawning praise laid at the feet of transparently limited young bands under the guise of Supporting New Music, like where's the incentive for these bands to actually get good? Where's the balance for the legions of better bands missing out on coverage as a result?

On the other hand, aesthetics of hate tend to look worse and worse as you get older (if only because most writers are considerably worse at articulating why they hate things than why they love things). When you're young, it's charming, you're a part of it, it's your peer group, it matters. I'm sure there are loads of older people who fancy themselves as Mick Farron meets Pierre Boulez, bold ideologues fearlessly scything their way through reams of bad and aesthetically redundant music. In reality, they tend to turn out like Reynolds or Kulkarni, middle-aged men shaking their fists at the sky because music hasn't turned out the way it was supposed to.

" the guy stroking his chin in faux-magnanimity at the collective works of Rick Witter, going "hmmm, how can I meet the artist half way in what he was trying to achieve here"

lol about 90% of ILM there.

Yeah while adults who continue to believe the myths of their teenage cliquedom are a sad lot, so are those who don't recognize hackery and hamfistedness.

Yeah of course I prefer the latter group personally and yeah they're the salt of the earth but fuck there's a lot of crap out there, admit it. Do you folks never go to local shows? Cause that's 99% of music. Most of the bands are just ineptly cribbing acts they view as authentic. Go to a folk open mic and tell me their lyrics are aesthetically on par with Yeats because it's all relative. Help it percolate to the top. Then call me a hater when it hits my radar.

"You see this from the fawning praise laid at the feet of transparently limited young bands under the guise of Supporting New Music, like where's the incentive for these bands to actually get good? Where's the balance for the legions of better bands missing out on coverage as a result?"

yeah, why don't we throw a cymbal at them so they can become the next charlie parker. seriously, nobody is motivated to be better by being attacked.

"the guy stroking his chin in faux-magnanimity at the clusterfuck of his incompetent coworker, going "hmmm, how can I meet the artist half way in what he was trying to achieve here"

Its all about grey areas - like so much work fails or suceeds to a certain extent so I usually want to read people who engage with something at that level. You know that happens when a writer you think you know will come up with something that surprises you, even after I've spent time reading you and think I know how you roll. More into the shape of the argument.

Requires getting stuck into something, evidence you're muddling through as much as the rest of us. Otherwise I get bored and stop reading. I know I've clicked on it and, for the record, I am now sorry I did.

Rushomancy - so I take it from your post that you've never heard a song in which proving haters wrong is acknowledged as a specific motivation?

matt dc as jk simmons in whiplash to an ingenue site moderator

"that's not my threadlock! you fucking worthless piece of horseshit, lock at my fucking tempo" *hurls html bug at young miles teller*

since i can't respond on ilx mail, thanks to jared for the work on the spotify script.. that's rad!

fitting that my horribly-forksed 'joke' killed this thread for over a day

that and there is literally nothing to discuss re: this topic

true

only 20 days til the poll closes!

We can do it, I know we can.

I say we keep it going until David Bowie RIP disappears.

New display name, yo!

ILM Inc should just non-exclusively license lists compiled on the board to different services, any curatorial fees are split between whoever hunts through the service for the right versions of songs and server maintenance fees

I'm assuming listmakers on Spotify or any other service make about the price of a cup of coffee per list, though

brb sending forks half a coffee via postal mail, pouring the other half directly into the server

https://sketchbloom.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/coffeebutton.jpg

curatorial fees are split

that sort of talk will get you called a lowlife

it's important to remind ourselves that posters with garbage opinions don't actually have to make a meaningful difference in how we enjoy music

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

at last

v. excited

Should have had this end on Super Tuesday

Works for me