Are you cool with forks making Spotify playlists out of every rolling thread without permission?

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truly the impact of Wut has been felt through the years for us all.

i <3 lex and we overlap on taste as much or more than with most people (same for mattress, tbrr) but dude, your argument is based on an elitist "i understand how listening to music should be done" approach. None of us are doing it "wrong". We're all just listening. We all listen differently. Polarized dichotomies of Aristotelian TRUTH when it comes to means of engagement (and, god help us, perceived quality of art itself) are anathema to me and just about the worst thing about ILM.

Demanding that neophytes wade into notoriously partisan threads and voice their opinions is sometimes a good experience for all concerned. Other times, folks get browbeaten viciously. IIRC, deej went after you in the afrobeats thread when you (reasonably imo) said that you wanted to engage music in the genre mostly out of context as you didn't have the wherewithal to have an authentic on the ground relationship to it. In his opinion, you were doing it wrong. You thought you were doing it your way. We're all just doing it our way.

In short, we are not the most welcoming environment for lurkers! Folks notoriously love to start fights about dumb shit on ILM for the lulz (I had an example I was gonna use here but i forgot what it was...). Demanding that anyone who enjoys the music must engage here ignores the possibility that maybe the social stress of such interaction may not be healthy, maybe they're sharing the music with their IRL friends and significant others (I do!) or using the newly discovered music to help support the artists in other real world arenas (we both do!). And not to call out a guy's real name on an ilx beef thread when shit gets heated but aren't you a regularly published music critic? Your method of enjoying and engaging music is probably as far removed from that of a truly casual listener as you can get... and there's a lot more of those out there than there are music critics. Casual listeners deserve respect too!

And as per your note on my own listening methods: what is the Singles Jukebox, to take a for instance we've both written for, but "listening to music as data dump," albeit one that is curated by people you respect? What is working on assignment but splicing your own interests and your editor's data dump into monetizable considerations?

I'm actually printing this whole thread out and having it screenprinted on a t-shirt like those crazy millenials are doing with Bee Movie

http://nymag.com/following/2016/02/heres-the-whole-script-of-bee-movie-on-a-shirt.html

I'm actually printing this whole thread out

ah, clusterfucks of yore

i miss the days of real ilx scandals like modest mickey trying to trick the entirety of ILM into incriminating themselves for copyright infringement, or luna pretending to be jenna jameson, or that time everyone thought drake and future finished at #3 in the albums poll.

Notable posters have included Momus,[2] Simon Reynolds, Philip Sherburne, Drew Daniel of Matmos and The Soft Pink Truth,[3] John Darnielle of The Mountain Goats,[4] Frank Kogan, Ned Raggett,[5] former The Wire editor Mark Sinker, Jenna Jameson,[6] former Village Voice music editor Chuck Eddy, Peter Chung (creator of Æon Flux), Fluxblog author Matthew Perpetua and Modest Mickey.[citation needed]

re that pitbull article my sympathies cannot help but lie w/ the dad who lost his son to a pitbull and not to these psychotic pro-pitbull types. what do u guys think - could ilx use a good pitbull clusterfuck?

i think we don't talk often enough about the fact that the guy who made aeon flux has his own board on ilx that he regularly answers anytime anyone posts something there.

http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/NewAnswersControllerServlet?boardid=59

Re: clusterfucks, I'm almost afraid to broach the subject, but did we ever get a ruling on is it okay to wash a hat in front of a baby y/n?

fun thread

The difference between this thread and the 2015 bobbins thread is vast.

― Matt DC, Thursday, February 4, 2016 12:06 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

From bobbins thread 2004:

(And if anyone wants to make a mix of all these and post it here, my thanks in advance.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, October 21, 2004 1:49 AM (11 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Anyway, what a crazy thread. I read it while listening to the rolling favorite tracks 2016 spotify list - wow, there's a LOT of good stuff there already! Thanks for all the helpful list Forks! And thanks to the other posters who make lists for the Acclaimed Music polls etc.

I would like to hear that playlist but is there like an overarching permission slip I can get signed or do I need to ask permission from each person involved and, if so, are gifts of respect a customary part of the permission-requesting procedure?

stick a fork in this thread it's done

so we're not cool with forks doing this, it's decided

No, he's definitely crossed the uncrossable line this time.

sometimes forks does things that push me out of my comfort zone, like making spotify playlists, but that's part of what makes him so sexy

Why does nobody ever talk about the cloves or the tofu?

fwiw I had fish & chips

cloves and tofu doesn't sound like a great combo but what do i know (nothing)

what a silly thread

Notable posters have included Momus,[2] Simon Reynolds, Philip Sherburne, Drew Daniel of Matmos and The Soft Pink Truth,[3] John Darnielle of The Mountain Goats,[4] Frank Kogan, Ned Raggett,[5] former The Wire editor Mark Sinker, Jenna Jameson,[6] former Village Voice music editor Chuck Eddy, Peter Chung (creator of Æon Flux), Fluxblog author Matthew Perpetua and Modest Mickey.[citation needed]
― ulysses

you forgot violin dude called Owen who plays with Arcade Fire and Grimes' boyfriend.

And myself, my claim to fame is I once gave Morgan Freeman a kiss on the cheek.

guest starring

Scout Niblett
Ta-Nehisi Coates
Robert Christgau

Love when so-called poptimists trot out their important concerns about people listening to music inauthentically

Wait, did Jenna Jameson was really an ilxor poster? Where?

Matt kinda a dick itt everyone agrees but kudos to his display name *silver lining*

Sorry for the bad english I meant:

Did Jenna Jameson really posted on ilxor? Where?

Jenna Jameson - what?!

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/XCumH8LRo1A/mqdefault.jpg

Poor Chris Ott.

Also he's the only person in this thread who's been needlessly aggro

Yeah, Jenna used to post a lot of candid production shots back in the day when ILX was primarily about the adult entertainment industry.

she posted as Esteban Buttez, iirc

high level p4k people have also posted here iirc

erstwhile ilxor and noted "Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World" aficionado nabisco

The difference between this thread and the 2015 bobbins thread is vast.
― Matt DC, Thursday, February 4, 2016 12:06 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

From bobbins thread 2004:

(And if anyone wants to make a mix of all these and post it here, my thanks in advance.)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, October 21, 2004 1:49 AM (11 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

for Ned

Bobbins 2004 'No Samples Cleared' Spotify Playlist

i do think it's a little lame that forks seems to want to turn into the nu-kerr, like one of those annoying "facilitators" at company retreats who goes around from table to table to see how everyone's doing and if there's anything they can do to help

that said he's a good dude and this thread was dumb, though redeemed in part by "numerously-deprivileged individual", never change louis

she posted as Esteban Buttez, iirc

― Darin, Thursday, February 4, 2016 2:02 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol think of all the ilxors who, like me, gave up literal minutes trying to think of the funneyest ilxor for this joke and gave up

i do think it's a little lame that forks seems to want to turn into the nu-kerr, like one of those annoying "facilitators" at company retreats who goes around from table to table to see how everyone's doing and if there's anything they can do to help

this is an unkind and uncool post. "I do think it's a little lame that people are helpful." gb2 high school with that kind of ridiculous take imo, helpful people are great

tonight, I kicked myself for forgetting the touchpad so all I can internet on is my phone, and on here its like looking through a mailbox flap.

and I have found this thread, and it seems the right thing to use!

i think ilx could use a good teambuilding retreat

Comedy ILFord of the past, have we forgotten Garu-G?

yeah kevin like you even needed to say that

other than to be a dick if so well done

Nah I get it, ILX is suffering a drought of insufferable dickbags atm. All this facilitating people's discovery and enjoyment of new things, it's like ugh enough already gtfo amirite.

No I do not want my beverage topped off, wtf is your problem.

Re: clusterfucks, I'm almost afraid to broach the subject, but did we ever get a ruling on is it okay to wash a hat in front of a baby y/n?

― If This Town Is Just An Asshole Then Let Me Take A Bite (Old Lunch), Thursday, 4 February 2016 18:35 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not top of the things we never got sorted in clusterfucks tbh

nb none of the ppl ilx thinks are famous are yknow famous,love em all tho I may

Dickbaggery is a non-denominational strategy, clearly

Man, poll is running for three weeks?

Three days would be enough surely?