flying lotus: c/d, s/d

http://www.newmixes.com/flying_lotus-essential_mix-sat-11-29-2008.html

what's so controversial about him

That's quite a (long) tracklist.

k, so i'm currently listening to Los Angeles, which i hadn't heard before, and it's pretty good. GNG BNG is amazing. what i'd heard before that i didn't like was 1983

Apparently that some people don't think he's amazing is controversial.

you should listen to Samiyam's reset ep moonship

flying lotus he has a lot of good tracks but sometimes gets a little samey
gng bng is great
xp

Also he apparently thinks that vaccines cause autism.

1983 has some good tracks, I really dug unexpected delight. I was looking real forward to the long lost album w/ daedelus and his wife but I really don't like a lot of daedelus' new shit

they cause scientology

controversial = long discussion on "wonky" thread about how great / not great he is. also he got essential mix of the year, but if you read the comments box on BBC it was very contentious.

i basically started the thread because i thought the conversation on the "wonky" thread could be extended without really derailing that thread too badly.

yeah vahid that's it

i always thought it was odd that he used the whole un-edited version but scratched the word "faggot"

his stuff makes more sense now that i see his massive weed cache

^^ red herring

los angeles was one of my favorite albums from last year and i think that essential mix is ace, too. i had no idea it got voted as the best.

i like this guy's music because it is unsettled/free and joyous (not in some kind of religious way; it sounds like he's having a great time), but it also sounds totally laser-focused.

nsfw

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Los Angeles was the best record of 2008 in my opinion.

But I'm sort of a Flying Lotus junkie. I listen to his complete output pretty thoroughly and frequently... but I'm from LA and he's the first local act I'd gotten way excited about in a really long time. Anyway, I have 4 different mixes of his and they are titled as follows:
The Black Fist
Live on Future Roots Radio 1/30/09
Essential Mix on Radio 1
BBC Radio 1 Sept '07

and they are all great.

Don't believe the 1983 disappointment in this thread, that's a really solid album. Grab the following in addition to the above mixes:
1983
Reset EP
Los Angeles
Los Angeles 1x3 EP

Finally, and this can both help or hinder my efforts of persuasion here, but I recently had a nice little streak of using acid once a month for the last 3 months. Every time I just put on a ton of Flying Lotus and it really, really delivered.

1983 kind of sounds like bad downtempo Mr. Oizo. His style wasn't refined enough by that point.

LOVE 'Parisian Goldfish'

album takes a while but when it kicks in it kicks it!

This album really makes me kinda wish that smoking pot didn't have such negative mental health repercussions for me. :-(

Auntie's Lock would go FASTASTIC in one of my nu-gaze-tronica sets

fastastic?

SLOWTASTIC

LA x 3 EP > Los Angeles. Floating on massive bass-driven clouds over gray and turbulent shipping lanes. "Endless White" sounds like Marsen Jules circa "Lazy Sunday Funerals", except better.

i'd been avoiding this dude for some reason, and i haven't heard a whole record (just some random youtube shit and a couple of cuts from the upcoming album), but i'm sold now. seems like he's good at both the post-dilla drum programming thing and the nu-synth thing. his remix of 'reckoner' is great too.

those couple tracks he's done with daedelus' wife are great

but yeah dude's really solid

He mimes his live shows. It's pretty ridiculous. All premixed and he just works the filters and delays, then poses like jesus. I thought the Chemical Bros. and Oakenfold were the bottom of the miming and posing possee but FlyLo is right up there with the worst of them. Either make your entire set live on stage or don't pose when you twist the delay nob.

it's kinda weird to expect these producers to do something that's related to what they do but not at all the same. reminds me of that mitch hedberg thing on comedians & acting, like "if i had worked my ass off to become a really good cook, and you said, 'alright, you're a cook...can you farm?'"

i guess the obvious answer is "don't play live", but it must be tough when you're not making shit off your records and getting offered well-paying gigs.

ive really come around on 'los angeles' too & looking fwd to the new lp

yeah i went from skeptic to total lotus stan in the last few weeks

The real record has leaked already (there was a milquetoast chillout album passed out as the real deal a few days ago). Sounds more busy and saturated than the last one so far, more jazz influence as well. Its hard to take in a single dose tho.

very excited about the new one. RobertaFlack is already one of my favorite tracks all time

I'm seeing him live next week, should be interesting

I think he's incredible live. Best thing I've seen at the SXSW fest in Austin in perhaps 8 years of going (whether that says more about his live show or my being easily impressed, I'm not sure).

Anyway... I'm no superfan (yet anyway), but highest recommendations to the live show.

The live set is good because it's prerecorded except for the delay/filters. He's a poser and a fake on stage. If you want to see a guy posing behind his laptop and twisting a couple knobs with greatly exaggerated movements, go for it.

Cool, can we also please talk about how Ashley Simpson is OMG SOOOO FAKE because she lip-synced on SNL?

Sure, it's a valid comparison.

I'm cool with that sort of thing if he has something visual going on and the live venue has a good sound system.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWvlA5RLuf8 -VS- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RrLAgi_mBY

damn, those knobs be hot.

if you've ever assigned knobs to functions in Abelton Live, you know exactly what's going on in that clip. If you haven't, you think he's actually doing something.

serious question, what is a dude like this supposed to do live? make beats from scratch on the fly?

So "assign[ing] knobs to functions in Abelton Live" =/= "actually doing something"?

i think "faker" is a bit ridiculous as language for this, but what do you like a fly-lo artist to do in this context? live mpc playing? different mixes on the fly?

heh xposting there obv

xp yes whereas i found the "you're dead" imagery a little off-putting but still acceptable, i have no desire to go anywhere near kuso

Because everyone who wasn’t into my shit, but knew what I was into, told me it was awesome and I had to check it out, so I did, and meh

Long lost verse from "Losing My Edge"

ha!

yo tombot ... i'm waiting ...

Oh right.

When people I trust recommend things to me, including critics I follow writing positive reviews, and those things disappoint me, I end up disliking those things in a way that is different in both category and degree from the way I dislike, say, mediocre club music, or any other by-the-numbers shit you care to name. Hate is too strong a word. But it certainly factors in the disappointment with the person(s) who recommended the thing, and then bundles that with the thing itself, plus the money I no longer have because I spent it on the thing that was recommended. Anyway, that's probably normal and not at all interesting so thanks for reading!

Great run, guys.

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I've paid no attention to him but liked his albums well enough. He opened for solange the other night with 3d projections and those, in conjunction with the contact high I got from everyone around me smoking, gave me a fairly credible LSD flashback experience so that was neat.

yes i am seeing the 3d show - how was it?

well i guess you said it was neat, can you tell me more? was he playing new music?

I'm honestly not familiar enough with all of his stuff to say. He did about 35-40 minutes (it was an opening slot after all) and the 3d animations were really impressive, great graphics.

it was ok

would have been pretty mad had i paid - they were asking $35 for it

he played this, it was ok

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XY0EHSXyk0&feature=youtu.be

try again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XY0EHSXyk0

damn, that new video is awesome. been wanting to catch his new tour, def gonna grab tix. dude gets close to no love out here in Denver but he keeps coming thru, praise

he projected the video behind himself when he "played" it. the projections were really crisp and the 3d was very impressive

i was disappointed though that overall the 3d animations didn't really have any theme or narrative. as my friend put it, it was a bit ... windows screensaver-y

definitely felt like they were just throwing up whatever 3d animations they had come up with. some of it had an outer space theme, some of it was body horror, some of it was like random 90s cyberdelic stuff, some of it related to his old albums. just a grab bag of random shit.

but yeah, taken piece by piece it was impressive

the opening act was some dude named pbdy who was ... not good

i can't find what he played online anywhere but it was laptop music that sounded like a cross between witch house, modern classical, "weightless" grime and drill and bass. not good, though.

a lot to unpack with this new one . some pretty cool shit so far though

Listening now, so far it seems well within his comfort zone, a lot of familiar off kilter beats and bass riffing, a bit less abrasive than some of his previous work. Very listenable, but not exactly revolutionary.

Haven't listened to the new one yet, but none of the singles got me going (except for Lynch), and I really liked You're Dead!. Honestly I'd like to hear a Thundercat-less FL record again. It's kinda cool how their sounds have become inseparable, but I wonder what he would do on some track without the 'just add Thundercat' plugin.

I always like his Twitter commentaries on the tracks. Love that 'All Spies' is straight-up the music from the Spy vs Spy NES game.

Liking the 2nd half of the record a lot

More spacious, the Solange track is really nice

i fuckin love flying lotus

are you a spy mister?

Re-listening to jonwayne's debut 'Bowser' and it holds up, such well-written tracks and rich video game synths. Better than all the retro-sounding indie game soundtracks around today. Probably my favorite non-FlyLo record to come out of the Low End Theory scene (along with Bad Vibes, and the first Teebs album).
https://open.spotify.com/album/2SURtVuzzUeELq1yAEWodw?si=DX-TRlTxQtehMBrMmfLy6Q

I love the part in the Stones Throw doc where jonwayne rolls out of bed and like immediately smokes a j and starts working on beats.

So presumably we're also getting a soundtrack out of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvp2EYCXYwU

If nothing else it looks and sounds amazing!

Not enough Iko Uwais in that trailer. But yeah, that could be something.

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Feels more like iglooghost or Rustie or Squarepusher (no samples or live musicians), but also like the hardest he's pushed himself musically in sometime

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdPDN1fqb5E