TS: Prince or Bowie?

I think British people here (assuming nomar is a British) are wildly overestimating Bowie's popularity in the states. Popular sure, but nothing close to ubiquitous. The only Bowie songs I heard before I was an adult and got into him myself on some music nerd shit were "Changes", "Let's Dance", and maaaaybe "Under Pressure". I certainly don't see him being huge in middle America, but yeah he has a certain prestige among coastal cultural types -- like Alfred said, a cult figure. There are quite a few musicians whose deaths will be bigger deals in the US.

he never had a #1 record here before! which is crazy, but there it is

Like Bowie vs McCartney? I remember George Harrison's death being as big or bigger deal than this (Time Magazine cover iirc?) and that was George freaking Harrison.

A couple days after Michael Jackson died, I stood in a giant crowd of people chanting "MJ! MJ! MJ!" at a DJ who had just finished playing, so we could summon her back to play another song by him. I love Bowie, but I don't see that happening with him.

Reverend OTM. The only Bowie fans I knew growing up were a couple of eccentric arty girls.

I think British people here (assuming nomar is a British) are wildly overestimating Bowie's popularity in the states.

I think nomar is American and I was definitely under the impression that it was US posters who were wildly overestimating Bowie's popularity in the states!

That's why I give side eye to the Bowie >> Dylan comparison. Dylan has several multiplatinum albums in the United States alone and enjoys a cultural force and cache that Bowie couldn't reach.

ILX's reaction to Bowie's death has surprised me because I've never believed Bowie was anywhere near as significant figure in the US as he was in the UK.

ILX sort of originated with Britishes and anglophiles, though.

and rock critics

Not many Britishes on it now tbh.

ILX Bowie sort of originated with Britishes and anglophiles, though.

― EveningStar (Sund4r),

I just tried to imagine a message board dominated by Midwestern construction workers and how it would react to Jon Bon Jovi's death.

I'm trying to imagine this message board and how it wld react to Jon Bon Jovi's death.

That was where I went next.

ran out of prayers, RIP

British people here (assuming nomar is a British) are wildly overestimating Bowie's popularity in the states.

dang that's cold : /

but I'm probably overestimating it yeah.

But I feel like people (maybe even now nomar as well, with this latest post) are misreading nomar's posts. I didn't read any of them as making any conclusions about Bowie's relative popularity anywhere. It was more about something particular ("can't quite put a finger on it" etc.) about Bowie and what he means.

Ha, apparently Jon Bon Jovi blocked The Next Day from going #1!

and it's ok if all we're talking about is "eccentric arty girls" (so to speak) because "eccentric arty girls" and their ilk might be a minority within any given county, but they're scattered throughout the land.

http://slate.me/1RohYZq

Ha!

"I didn't say that all rock musicians will automatically produce watered-down versions of other genres... (For example, a couple years ago this popular Finnish singer who used to do boring MOR dad rock music unexpectedly shifted into 80s style dance pop a la Michael Jackson, and the results were great! The difference between that "Let's Dance" is that he seems to have put his heart fully into it, so ) I'm just saying that these particular examples (the Youtubes Shakey posted) don't sound as good as similar records released by "proper" electronic musicians of the same era."

^soul-ism (or R&Bism/dance-pop-ism, etc). :P basically saying that bowie should have tried harder to sound less english, less white, less 'rock', or just less 'bowie' (ie detached, a bit arch, 'stiff') when maybe it was bringing all those things to lets dance that made it what it was. now back to the debate over 'who had the better death'. bowie obv bowed out a lot more gracefully than JB, MJ or other artists who were still a little too caught in the crassness of showbizziness. DB seemed to not really want much to do with all that.

got to take greg tate's piece with a pinch of salt (was bowie really inspired by kendrick lamar?!, and Ive never too keen on comments like "Andy Warhol was so white he was black” but whatever...), but yeah, i always wondered about that p-funk mention of bowie. sure, clinton doesnt dis bowie, but he doesnt really give him props as such either (or maybe the lack of a dis should be considered a compliment).

"We were listening to a lot of Kendrick Lamar," says producer Tony Visconti.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/the-inside-story-of-david-bowies-stunning-new-album-blackstar-20151123

funny thinking about bowie/prince/morissey - i could totally see prince covering bowies version of i know its gonna happen someday.

you beautiful men

looking for a picture with both of them on it

Gene Simmons,

"Prince, Glen Frey, Bowie. These are people who changed lives..."

haha

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/muppet/images/7/7e/Susanthesethings.jpg

Too sad: prince and bowie

i'll stick with you baby for a thousand years

http://www.breatheheavy.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/bowie-prince.jpg

Couldn't work Glenn Frey in there?

http://youtu.be/BSUGJBcNF0E?t=2m41s

Can't wait for the paintings of Lemmy, Prince, Bowie, Glenn Frey and Keith Emerson looking soulful and jamming on a cloud start cropping up.

http://i.imgur.com/npsQVdS.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/kQ1LXPC.jpg?1

Lol both of these assholes are DEAD

Prince covered "Heroes" last month in Toronto.

(All video footage of the above seems to have disappeared from the webz.)

Audio tho:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqDX8-s6jYI

i know its early days yet, but i imagine a far bigger outpouring of pieces on him in the US than the UK, compared to bowie.

Lol both of these assholes are DEAD

― • (sleepingbag), Friday, April 22, 2016 12:12 AM (two years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

:-(

sleepingbag makes some strong points

:D

I wish Prince had covered "Win"...

― Intelligence Lends Mojo (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, March 5, 2009

damn good call

"Win" is basically the perfect Bowie song, I doubt anyone could do it better.