David Bowie R.I.P

so jealous of everyone who gets to discover him for the first time. he had a solid 10 years at least of back-to-back classic albums.

Old lunch u mad diamond dogs is so fucking great! GTFO with this peopleoid nonsense!

― banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, January 12, 2016 12:45 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

My problems with Diamond Dogs are probably 1) it was the first classic-era album that I heard ("I should check out something Bowie made prior to Outside...hey, look, a new remaster of DD...wait, this is what people rave about?") and 2) I subsequently only listen to it nestled between his other albums from that period. So it pales in comparison but I maybe need to give it more of a chance in isolation.

Oh, also, 3) '1984' sounds like the first recorded instance of Bowie descending to earth and trying to fit in with decidedly mixed results. He was always much better residing on his own planet.

Regarding Nirvana's Unplugged cover of "The Man Who Sold the World": Cobain didn't pick it, Pat Smear did. The rehearsals for that show were a mess, everyone thought it would be a disaster, and at some point Cobain asked Smear "hey man you like Bowie, go pick something for us to do." there was a crate of records at the rehearsal space and Smear pulled out that record and they picked the song pretty nonchalantly. Really changes the whole significance and subtext of Cobain picking that song to play at his funeral concert. I'll look for a link, this was a quote that came from Smear around the 20th anniversary of Cobain's death.

current itunes uk singles chart (supposedly)

http://kworb.net/popuk/

Must not apply to college/NPR stations, or maybe it was just ignored by the one I heard streaming an hour of Bowiesongs

they were ignoring the regulation (not every college station has a lawyer as a GM, but we do, for better or worse)

― sleeve, Tuesday, January 12, 2016 12:55 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I was gonna say, we've got a Pacifica station in Houston that does big tributes all the time, including a big Bowie show on my friend Jeff's show that's starting now.

diamond dogs rules so hard for me. might be my most played bowie. on the flip side, i never listen to young americans.

i hate to be that guy really i do but i kinda stop with scary monsters. i mean i love his very first album and pretty much everything up to and including scary monsters and that's a lot of music! and i always enjoy hearing those records. i just doubt i would ever listen to the new album BUT i am really glad that his superfans seem to dig it so much. i'm glad they got a parting gift.

(and even though i don't listen to newer stuff i always liked having him around and seeing what his hair was up to...)

yeah I know we've covered this topic before but it bears repeating that there are very very few solo artists that can match his run of albums through the 70s. Prince in the 80s is closest, as is Stevie Wonder in the 70s, but beyond that there are not a lot of people who have ever maintained such a consistent output for so long.

I've never taken more than a passing glance at '80s Bowie but I'm going to keep plugging through that stuff, too.

there's not a lot of it

Scott, Blackstar is way better than a record that's just for superfans, you really should check it out

yeah his discography from 1970-1980 is insane

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRz1tOAa73A

Looks like a good car set, although I'll swap the last two for "TVC15" and "The Man Who Sold The World" (also maybe original "Fame" for this '90 mix, but I'll compare first):
http://www.discogs.com/David-Bowie-Changesbowie/master/43597

Bowie's Pazz and Jop history.

I'm not a fan of Pin Ups, but I find it remarkable that in 1972 he was already able to glom onto both the importance of the VU as well as Springsteen, even if those covers weren't really released at the time.

He covered the Velvets in 1967!

It's taken me a long time to warm to Diamond Dogs because of the silly concept, but I made my peace with it; after all, I like Outside. Now I can appreciate the rich mix, Bowie's batshit craz lead guitar, and the sweep of the thing.

XP ...and on the back cover of Hunky Dory, "Queen Bitch" is prefaced by the legend "Some V.U., White Light Returned With Thanks".

diamond dogs rulez

Buncha WFMU DJs ignoring that DMCA rule yesterday/today -- gonna be that way all week.

His manager at the time, Ken Pitt, had a tape of the Velvets' before the first album before had even been released. Which didn't stop Bowie mistaking Doug Yule for Lou Reed when they met.

http://dangerousminds.net/comments/call_in_the_riot_squad_david_bowie_covers_the_velvet_underground..._in_1967

i hate to be that guy really i do but i kinda stop with scary monsters

As a kid I knew of Bowie from 'Let's Dance' and 'Labyrinth', then later in Tin Machine. So it was a shock in 1992 when I heard literally the last five minutes of a radio documentary and they played 'Rock'N'Roll Suicide' and I couldn't believe it, it sounded like nothing I'd ever heard. I went out to the record store the next day determined to buy the album with that track on it (Ziggy of course), went straight home and was blown away. Having grown up in the 80s I hated that decade by that time, so I sticked with the 70s albums - even to the point of being reluctant to pick up a copy of 'Lodger' (I did eventually and immediately kicked myself for having put off buying a copy for so long). Then as new albums were released in the 90s I bought them, but didn't buy 'Hours' as it's Bowie's second worst album (saved from being worse than NLMD because at least he sounds like he's awake half the time). Then I doubled back and listened to the 80s stuff. Three quarters of SM I like, but LD just sounds depressing to me, especially 'Modern Love'. It's like someone retreating into the past. Then there's 'Tonight', his third worst album (hey it's got 'Blue Jean' on it but on the other hand the cover of 'God Only Knows' is possibly the worst cover version of any song ever barring ones that have actual musical incompetence), and NLMD. Sometime in the mid 90s Bowie asked for 'Too Dizzy' to be removed from the track listing of subsequent releases, but IMHO he should have asked for the entire album to be deleted. 'Heathen' and 'Reality' are solid albums and I like them, but don't listen to them much, possibly because they remind me so much of the early 00s. A few years ago I heard his two 60s albums and the first one is charming enough - some themes that appear in later songs appear first here - but the second is better. His last two albums are great, and work really well as a complement to each other. Also, fuck Tin Machine.

Heh. From a FB post by a middle-school friend:

I was in middle school when Tin Machine's 'Baby Universal' single came out. I bought the cassingle and then both of their albums. It wasn't until some years later that I became aware that the lead singer was a guy named David Bowie who had also done some other stuff. I am the world's only Tin Machine fan.

I liked 'Baby Universal' but then heard a TM concert on the radio and thought, 'oh what a bunch of shit'. So I've never liked them. And that was before hearing 'Rock'N'Roll Suicide'.

It's taken me a long time to warm to Diamond Dogs because of the silly concept, but I made my peace with it; after all, I like Outside. Now I can appreciate the rich mix, Bowie's batshit craz lead guitar, and the sweep of the thing.

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, January 12, 2016 7:15 PM (16 minutes ago)

I had a copy of DD on tape and nearly wore it out, literally, through playing it constantly. But then I was 19 and more receptive to the dystopian future city silliness. Although even without that I still think it's a great album

but didn't buy 'Hours' as it's Bowie's second worst album (saved from being worse than NLMD because at least he sounds like he's awake half the time)

you're suggesting that bowie sounds awake on hours?

i hate to be that guy really i do but i kinda stop with scary monsters.

i'm that guy too BUT blackstar is the first thing since scary monsters that i truly enjoy all the way through. i liked a few cuts on heathen and reality and the next day, but blackstar's just outstanding all the way through

Always thought Tin Machine had a pretty decent sound, but went nowhere with it (apart from the amazing cover of "If There Is Something" on SNL -- studio version is way too slow).

these last two albums really are great, aren't they.

that tin machine post is great

Next Day great too, maybe a bit too long but I like all the songs

The "God Only Knows" cover is top ten worst of all time.

No lie, I reread this piece by Ned sometime last week: https://nedraggett.wordpress.com/2010/02/04/not-just-the-ticket-a-ticketless-show-of-note-tin-machine-late-august-1991/

xp Bowie sounds like a dead man on that song, which is a real contrast to how alive he sounds on 'Blackstar'.

TS: Bowie's version of "God Only Knows" vs "Dancing in the Street" video

Oh the video for that song is glorious. Bowie and Jagger trying to outdo each other in every single shot.

Whatever Happened to Baby Bo

how hard was it to find Bowie albums in the eighties before the Rykodisc reisues? After his RCA contract ran out and he signed to EMI, weren't they reissued? Yet I keep reading anecdotes about overjoyed fans stumbling on copies of Lodger in 1986 like it's the Dead Sea scrolls.

I suspect the Rykos helped turn the critical tide. They got a huge advertising push in SPIN, Rolling Stone, etc, and were probably music listeners' first exposure to Bowie.

I thought Bowie, Ronson & Co. were good students of Jeff Beck Group (several early line-ups of which, better live of course). And here they are with the man himself on a 12 minute-plus medley of "Jean Genie/Love Me Do/Round & Round," cut from or condensed in official release, I think, so get it while you can:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONTsm_03ECA This is the sound he initially won hearts and minds with, in my boogie boondocks, and many others (those were different times).

Bowie vinyl seemed plentiful in the 80s, but I've never seen a Bowie RCA CD anywhere, ever.

And yep, EMI reissued everything sans bonus tracks.

xp

Did EMI handle those Ryko reissues outside the US? My Young Americans is on EMI, copyright 1991, and has the bonus tracks.

EMI later reissued some of the bonus tracks on special Deluxe editions of a few albums.

Yes I think so, my Hunky Dory with bonus tracks is on EMI.

Actually my Ziggy Stardust CD has bonus tracks as well, and is also on EMI. Both from 1990.

The Sound and Vision box was really huge, but I think it's worth remembering the massive tour he put together with it.
The tour was promoted as a way for Bowie to 'retire' his hits. I saw the Pensacola date which was pretty life-changing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound%2BVision_Tour

HA: The NME, in response to the telephone poll, ran a spoof campaign, Just Say Gnome, in an effort to have "The Laughing Gnome" included in the set-lists.[2][13] Bowie had considered playing "The Laughing Gnome" "in the style of The Velvets or something" until he found out the voting had been perpetrated by the music magazine.

I've unfairly thought of the back half of Low as a little perfunctory in the past, but listening to 'Warszawa' just now and I realize both that I know every note of it as well as I know his more obvious hits and that it sounds absolutely magical.

I always wonder how Ryko ended up with the contract. Like, they must have had some genius who was able to sweet-talk both Bowie and the Jimi Hendrix Estate into giving them master tapes. Ryko was a cool label imo but it's hard for me to imagine they'd've had the kind of big advance I'd imagine Bowie would have wanted for those records

Ryko was pretty baller then: locking down Bowie, Zappa, and Costello in the space of a year or so.

In hindsight, it's ridiculous that I'd gloss over the Low instrumentals, as I glove Eno's instrumental stuff and I more generally love a ton of non-Bowie music that sounds like this. I guess it just wasn't what I was looking for or expecting from Bowie back in the day.

I unconditionally love the second side of Low, whatever that is that sounds like a marimba in Weeping Wall ( I think?) sounds so cool.

Ryko got Costello a few years later, in 1993. But he signed on specifically because of how Ryko had handled Bowie's catalog.

xxp