really is annoying now that there are two discs of matrix stuff on that set when they could've filled those discs w/ some of the boston tea party recordings from 68 and 69. sound quality of those is not fab, but they're better than the second fret show on the loaded box set anyway.
― tylerw, Saturday, January 2, 2016 9:44 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Agreed. I decided to pass on the Loaded box after hearing a clip of the Second Fret show (which sounds like it was recorded from a passing car as it drove by the club possibly, but not likely, while the Velvets were onstage), and I never could grok Max's Kansas City due to Billy Yule's overplaying.
The first two boxes got it right re: unreleased live stuff (even if the WL/WH set was overpriced for how little it contained).
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 3 January 2016 22:39 (eight years ago) link
gotta say that the Sundazed sequencing for the 1969 sessions seems all off to me ... obviously just a matter of trainspotter taste.
― tylerw, Saturday, January 2, 2016 9:51 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
also i prefer some of the 80s mixes! so there!
― tylerw, Saturday, January 2, 2016 9:52 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yes and yes. VU to me is flawless and canon; 1969's running order doesn't cut it.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 3 January 2016 22:41 (eight years ago) link
Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius.
― new zingland (rushomancy), Sunday, 3 January 2016 22:51 (eight years ago) link
Yes, "1969" is wrong, but the art/sleeve/package is alright, if you manage to get one not in the box set like I did.
― Mark G, Sunday, 3 January 2016 23:34 (eight years ago) link
yeah i think having all that 1969 material in one place is the right idea, but the execution of it so far has been a little lacking. the art is cool! i like those groovy shirts the VU are wearing.
― tylerw, Monday, 4 January 2016 15:59 (eight years ago) link
The next boxset will come with replicas of those shirts.
― "Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 4 January 2016 16:02 (eight years ago) link
GROOVY. I've actually always wanted to know where that photo shoot took place... is the LA Zoo or something? http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-uMCca4v7Myc/UyMN4QnQ8CI/AAAAAAAAI-0/qT64Vl0M-rA/s1600/front+1.png
― tylerw, Monday, 4 January 2016 16:06 (eight years ago) link
not sure if this is the thread for a q like this or not but here goes anywaylooks like my erstwhile VU jam is going to be revived, and i need some new-to-me live VU jams to listen to. what is my best bet for highest concentration of long groovy tracks (i have live 1969 LP but i need something i can burn to CD to listen to in the car)?
― La Lechuza (La Lechera), Monday, 4 January 2016 17:36 (eight years ago) link
you have these bootlegs? long jamz galore: http://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/72879443131/the-velvet-underground-the-boston-tea-partyhttp://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/82918200243/sweet-sister-rayns-heroin-more-invisible-hits
― tylerw, Monday, 4 January 2016 17:44 (eight years ago) link
i don't - how's the sound?
― La Lechuza (La Lechera), Monday, 4 January 2016 17:47 (eight years ago) link
crappy! well it varies ... but if you haven't heard it, i think "sweet sister ray" would be right up your alley.
― tylerw, Monday, 4 January 2016 17:49 (eight years ago) link
hm. ok -- any recommendations of recordings that are less muddy?
― La Lechuza (La Lechera), Monday, 4 January 2016 18:52 (eight years ago) link
well, the Matrix set :D
maybe the Gymnasium set as well? Or the Hilltop gig?
― sleeve, Monday, 4 January 2016 19:00 (eight years ago) link
yeah, the matrix set is your best bet in terms of non-muddy recordings (fair amount of crossover w/ live 1969 of course). the end of cole avenue bootleg too, though there actually aren't too many long jams on that one.
― tylerw, Monday, 4 January 2016 19:07 (eight years ago) link
ok thanks dudes!
― La Lechuza (La Lechera), Monday, 4 January 2016 19:19 (eight years ago) link
all annoyance with how they rolled out the matrix tapes aside, good lord, those four discs are so good.
― tylerw, Monday, 4 January 2016 19:20 (eight years ago) link
are the Matrix Tapes sold out everywhere? (new copies at the retail price)
― brownie, Monday, 4 January 2016 19:22 (eight years ago) link
i just looked and you can get mp3s on amazon for $24 which seems ok enough esp if the sound is superior to other live recordings
― La Lechuza (La Lechera), Monday, 4 January 2016 19:26 (eight years ago) link
yeah I saw that - seems like a decent price! I was looking for the CD boxset for a gift - can't find them.
― brownie, Monday, 4 January 2016 19:30 (eight years ago) link
yeah I think it is all sold out at the moment
― sleeve, Monday, 4 January 2016 19:32 (eight years ago) link
there are used copies on amazon but they're $172!?
― La Lechuza (La Lechera), Monday, 4 January 2016 19:33 (eight years ago) link
it'll be repressed soon, I would assume.
― sleeve, Monday, 4 January 2016 19:35 (eight years ago) link
yeah doesn't seem like the kinda thing that would be "limited"... but i guess the fact that it is selling well bodes well for more VU trainspotter gouging.
― tylerw, Monday, 4 January 2016 20:05 (eight years ago) link
And how!
― Anyway, it's not a three, it's a yogh. (Tom D.), Monday, 4 January 2016 20:52 (eight years ago) link
I see it new for $30 on Amazon....
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Monday, 4 January 2016 22:43 (eight years ago) link
well I just tried ordering one, will report back
― sleeve, Monday, 4 January 2016 22:48 (eight years ago) link
WTF
Condition: Used - Like New - Sealed item. Like NEW. 30 Day Satisfaction Guarantee.
so maybe I bought a used copy? confusing.
― sleeve, Monday, 4 January 2016 22:50 (eight years ago) link
Condition: New - BRAND NEW, Factory Sealed items direct from the Studios. 30 Day Satisfaction Guarantee.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Monday, 4 January 2016 22:51 (eight years ago) link
I've actually always wanted to know where that photo shoot took place... is the LA Zoo or something?
Bob Egan of popspotsnyc.com claims that it was in the Ferndell Nature Trail section of Griffith Park, near the junction of N. Western Ave. and Los Feliz Blvd., though he admits he's a bit "speculative" about it. If true, that would be in the vicinity of where The Byrds' Mr. Tambourine Man LP cover photo was taken. The photographer was Sanford Schor.
― Josefa, Tuesday, 5 January 2016 04:59 (eight years ago) link
ha, so the LA Zoo wasn't toooo far off. is the waterfall still there? i spent a lot of time in griffith park as a kid, but don't think i ever saw anything like that...
― tylerw, Tuesday, 5 January 2016 17:39 (eight years ago) link
Don't know, I live in New York
― Josefa, Tuesday, 5 January 2016 17:56 (eight years ago) link
damn it someone needs to stop what they're doing right now and go looking for the waterfall on the cover of an old velvet underground bootleg for me!
― tylerw, Tuesday, 5 January 2016 18:07 (eight years ago) link
holy what https://soundcloud.com/wakaflockaflame/askcharlamagne
― big WHOIS aka the nameserver (s.clover), Thursday, 7 January 2016 18:57 (eight years ago) link
What is it?
― Mark G, Friday, 8 January 2016 20:54 (eight years ago) link
Waka sampling heroin
― Οὖτις, Friday, 8 January 2016 20:55 (eight years ago) link
Ooh, dangerous.
― Mark G, Friday, 8 January 2016 20:57 (eight years ago) link
it's a "venus in furs" sample -- kinda good!
― tylerw, Friday, 8 January 2016 20:57 (eight years ago) link
ah right sorry
― Οὖτις, Friday, 8 January 2016 21:01 (eight years ago) link
duh
:‑o
― Anyway, it's not a three, it's a yogh. (Tom D.), Friday, 8 January 2016 22:07 (eight years ago) link
hmm“From my collection, Super Rare Tape..VELVET UNDERGROUND 7 X 1/4 PRODUCTION STEREO TEST TAPE 4T - 7.5 ips.1967 VELVET UNDERGROUND & NICO...SMS/MGM-VERVE RECORDS...INCLUDES REED & CALE'S DELETED 2ND VERSION OF "HEROIN;" MUCH DIFFERENT MIX WITH CALE VOCALS, PIANO, FUZZ GUITAR & NO VIOLA..play tested, leader'd, excellent hi-fidelity, non smoke home,..always stored in cello sealed bag...”http://www.ebay.com/itm/191776489151#cvip_deschttp://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/LkUAAOSwJkJWjWsw/s-l1600.jpgnever even heard of this alternate "heroin"
― tylerw, Monday, 11 January 2016 15:22 (eight years ago) link
omg
shit like this is gonna keep turning up for the next 50 years, isn't it?
― sleeve, Monday, 11 January 2016 15:27 (eight years ago) link
50TH ANNIVERSARY EXTRA DELUXE EDITION COMING SOON
― tylerw, Monday, 11 January 2016 15:28 (eight years ago) link
wow $750 seems a bit cheap for something like that
― ﷽ (diamonddave85), Monday, 11 January 2016 15:30 (eight years ago) link
yeah, considering how much that acetate went for...
― tylerw, Monday, 11 January 2016 15:34 (eight years ago) link
huh, so there is a VU exposition coming to Paris in March through August (link in English), at the Cité de la musique
looks cool! there's some kind of museum exhibition (it's in the space where the big Miles Davis exposition was a few years back, which was rad). and also several concerts in the space, including Television playing Marquee Moon, and John Cale playing the first VU album, with Etienne Daho, the Libertines, Animal Collective, Lou Doillon, Nick Franklin from Lemon Jelly, and Mark Lanegan.
also there are conference talks and debates on the band, musical workshops around the work of the band for both kids & adults, experimental film "experiences"
I am so there.
― droit au butt (Euler), Friday, 11 March 2016 17:34 (eight years ago) link
I had a great time relaxing in the "mini EPI" room at the Andy Warhol / Ai Wei Wei exhibition in the National Gallery of Victoria the other month. Was enjoying the art and then stepped thru a door into a room full of beanbags and all four walls projecting Factory footage, Chelsea Girls, VU rehearsals, screen tests, coloured dots, Malanga with his whip, et al. And a great mix of VU obscurities played loud. My wife had to come back and get me after half an hour.
― MatthewK, Friday, 11 March 2016 21:43 (eight years ago) link
yeahhh that sounds like fun
― tylerw, Friday, 11 March 2016 21:50 (eight years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdmFDNSUYAAYbA3.jpg
― tylerw, Tuesday, 15 March 2016 14:20 (eight years ago) link
pretty damn solid attempt to bring lou's live vocal to the studio instrumental of guess i'm falling in lovehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb8GfC2o9Eo&feature=youtu.be
― tylerw, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 15:30 (eight years ago) link