steve hoffman forums, C or D?

T-shirt idea: Big Dog with sunglasses giving a thumbs up while smirking, caption "The only MacIntosh I use is my tube amp"

Also possibly the dog has a guitar

And one hand with a repetitive stress injury

arm, paw, whatever. Bad joke.

Naw that's perfect. And the dog's shirt says OLD DOGS RULE

spelling is different

Best part of that thread is the "positive" follow ups from the Hoff making him look even more of a prick

Thread appears to have been deleted. Been spending a bunch of time on the Hoff forums recently & have been largely enjoying it - sometimes genuinely & sometimes in a "lookit the audiophile loonies" kinda way. They have pointed me to a nice reissue of Muswell Hillbillies (which I otherwise woulda ignored as I - ignorantly, I guess - tend to assume anything associated with Record Store Day is cash-grab crapola). But I gotta also check the tendencies; was listening to some stuff my daughter likes & found myself thinking "the engineering on this is terrible!" to which my sensible side said "if your dad had commented on the engineering on a Hüsker Dü record, wouldn't he have been missing the point just like you are now?" So.

above link still works for me

Maybe they made it members-only? I strictly lurk there. I do remember seeing that thread a while back, tho.

Oh yeah I think I have to be signed in to view it.

It seems audiocrazy at a glance, but there totally is a point; it's a forum about sound quality and sound quality definitely varies with equipment, so yeah, I'm with brimstead. Run with the big dogs, waggle your gear about.

But I've also often wondered about a similar approach for mainstream record reviews: sure, over time you can get to 'know' a reviewer's tastes and character to an extent by reading their reviews, but I've rarely, if ever, seen anyone talk in a record review about how they use a record, when they play it, what it's for, at least outside of specialist reviews of dance music. Which would be OK if we were judging / evaluating (and buying / using) music on a purely abstracted, aesthetic level, but we're not; we're fitting music into our lives, using it for all sorts of different purposes.

I'm totally cool with that post, put up or shut up if you're gonna run with the big dogs at the hoff'

― lute bro (brimstead), Thursday, 31 December 2015 22:04 (1 week ago) Permalink

so good

it's a ridiculous board but it is helpful especially when sorting through all the vinyl reissues these days some of which are expensive and not that great, so when you hear universal praise there for, say the Dylan Mono vinyl box that does actually mean something to me...though man I though the Beatles vinyl reissues were gonna tear that place apart, I still don't know what to think.

Sound quality totally isn't an issue for me. I long ago mothballed my vinyl, CDs, turntable and CD player. The only way I listen to music now is v0 mp3s on an iPod through £100 headphones, and it all sounds great to me. My enjoyment of music is unaffected by sub-optimal sound quality.

can't run w/the big dogs
get off the porch

It's a worthwhile resource for information about vinyl (or CD) pressing quality. I often find myself googling "steve hoffman + [X reissue]" when browsing stuff online or at the local record. shop. It is what it is and nothing else. Some of the language around how records sound is completely hilarious and over the top though, no doubt about that.

there's a better video than this, but it's well hidden
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnAgxUFKaxM

Looks like someone's touched a nerve over at the retirement home...

http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/an-oldies-forum.665037/

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The old boy may be barely breathing

this post p much sums it up

Music had a serious impact back in the day, it meant something to people and to the world!

Songs Like ...
Everyday people
Imagine
Say It Loud I'm Black And I'm Proud
What's Going On
Ball Of Confusion

These are just a very few of the type music made back in the day, music meant more!

Also back in the day, you had to have talent, you had to know your instrument, for the most part you had to really be able to sing.

The music scene was way way way better, as far as the acts and the music!

How about this one?

As a high school teacher, I can share with you without a shadow of a doubt, that most youngsters don't care about those old school acts!

notice, I did not say all, but most ... there's absolutely no doubt about it!

I've done it, I've asked them about old school acts and most of them have never even heard of them. Acts that most of us would instantly know, they haven't a clue.

For example...
Bad Company
Foghat
Grand Funk
Sly And The Family Stone
Rare Earth
Edgar Winter

Most of my students, have never even heard of these acts? Now when I let them hear a song or two, some of them may say yeah I've heard that song but I never knew who it was.

This is one of the reasons I started exposing them to Paul McCartney. I just felt they should know who the greatest songwriter is!

Fish meet ILX barrel

haha... this one's great as well:

I've done it, I've asked them about old school acts and most of them have never even heard of them. Acts that most of us would instantly know, they haven't a clue.

For example...
Bad Company
Foghat
Grand Funk
Sly And The Family Stone
Rare Earth
Edgar Winter

Most of my students, have never even heard of these acts? Now when I let them hear a song or two, some of them may say yeah I've heard that song but I never knew who it was.

This is one of the reasons I started exposing them to Paul McCartney. I just felt they should know who the greatest songwriter is!

maccafan, Today at 2:46 PM

Hehehehe... posted that one above, niels... the image of some teacher internally flipping out because his students don't know who Rare Earth are in 2017 is utterly priceless.

haha lol I see! but yeah, great stuff

It's like a Room Full of Lefsetz

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classic and dud... I got banned pretty quick for linking an article that denigrated the forum/Hoffman etc. On the surface, it feels like MOJO magazine BBS, with a bunch of curmudgeonly middle-aged men flossing their tech "knowledge," more concern for audio quality, x pressing of Sea Change, etc. than actual music. But it goes beyond that, there's some decent, in-depth Grateful Dead discussion, general classical and jazz talk etc. - it's useful to an extent. Judging by some posts, it's as if some people regard the site as some holy grail of music and -related information. Maybe it's just a generally less 'hip' demographic than ILX, I don't know.

I like all the same music as those dudes, but I don't want to talk about it with them. Perhaps out of fear that I secretly am one of them. They are definitely a valuable resource if/when I'm deciding which reissue of an album I should buy, though. (That's where I heard about the Japanese super deluxe expanded edition of Santana's Lotus which will shortly be on its way to me.)

it's probably a really good place to learn more about foghat

i hope he's not an english teacher. xxxxxxxxp

They are definitely a valuable resource if/when I'm deciding which reissue of an album I should buy, though.

Or which old pressing if you're a record collector.

it's probably a really good place to learn more about foghat

There are some interesting posters who seem to have been active on the late, lamented Velvet Rope forums, which were designed to have discussions among people in the recording and broadcasting industries. I have discovered a number of overlooked 80's/90's and prog bands through member recommendations, too

it's true, they do have a lot of information about old pressings etc., at least when they don't include Hoffman masters. Then you have to sift through the moderator-enforced hagiography to figure out which of the options is best.

I've been enjoying the Fall album-by-album thread on SHF.

Link pls?

http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/the-fall-album-by-album-by-single-by-cassette-thread.485363/

It's a normal thread, no lols to be had from confused interlopers.

Of course the variations in quality between different cd editions of fall albums are some of the hugest of any artist ever so hoffman forum kind of a logical place for a thread like that

yeah hoffman boards what a bunch of losers just debating old led zeppelin albums and beatles remasters...oh wait

http://i1057.photobucket.com/albums/t389/TheEst/Reviews/the-servant-dirk-bogarde-james-fox.jpg:original

Damn straight, I just discovered Steve Hoffmann forums and wish I hadn't started up here. They may not be quite as smart but they aren't broken creeps like the swine on ILM. I tried for 20 years with positive and encouraging comments, got a lot of attitude in return. See y'all later

― Iago Galdston, Sunday, April 2, 2017 5:33 PM (two weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha, I still flit through those forums. but I got over my 'must have best digital pressing of anything' tendencies very very quickly. It is useful for finding out information on vinyl pressings though.

steve hoffman's mastering on the whole (that I've heard) is really good though. it's worth going to piratebay and finding the leaked (by himself) mastering he did of All Things Must Pass that wound up not getting released.

he did the best edition of Raiders of the Lost Ark for those who care.

...and Steve and his minions will tell you his work is the very best. The. Very. Best.

There's a hilarious Hoffman hater board. Just read this thread and howl: http://stereocentral.tv/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=6167

that's a pretty funny site, although, I can't see myself being so worked up about this guy and his message board that it warrants an entirely new board to mock it

It is useful for finding out information on vinyl pressings though.

Can I just say - extremely useful. Sometimes the only place on the internet for information.

yeah hoffman boards what a bunch of losers just debating old led zeppelin albums and beatles remasters...oh wait

― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, April 17, 2017 4:22 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You'd have a point if almost every thread on the front page of ILM was a Beatles thread, with such incredible topics as "what colour socks did Ringo wear when recording 'Tomorrow Never Knows'" or "what brand of condom did Paul set fire to in Hamburg?"

any truth to the story that All Things Must Pass had *re-recorded* guitar parts etc on the CD issued in 2001? admittedly i only ever read this tale on the forums in question.

i actually like nothing better than discussing classic rock minutiae with you fine folks and i've def found some good info on the hoffman boards
not the greatest discussions always but sometimes some real old school head type engineer dude will drop some science and shit and that's cool

does tape op have boards? i should check those out

In fact, I'm of the impression that Ken Scott (yes, he who worked with The Beatles) used to post at the retirement home but got pissed off with it eventually, calling the host a "jumped up cutting engineer" ... Ouch.

Bob Ezrin taking the Hoff to task over his work on Alice Cooper's Billion Dollar Babies was also pretty hilarious.

Okay that’s genuinely funny

that's even worse.

some people are such pathetic creeps

Oh that guy. The Bush Bore is my personal nickname for him.

Thread seems to have been deleted.

This is where Google's cache came in handy. It was quicker than the internet archive. Alas Google turned it off. The only thing I learn is that the thread was started by Chris DeVoe. "I guess people are not aware" is the only trace of its existence.

I guess.

I can't think of another forum that's done such a thorough job of deleting threads. Not only the shit shows that have popped up, they've deleted problematic ones from the past too. I still remember moderator Dave going off on a bigoted tirade against the Chinese immigrants that were destroying Canada by bringing in drugs, gangs and taking jobs away from real Canadians. The highlight was him complaining that a local Chinese restaurant didn't have anyone who wasn't Asian in the kitchen. I remember only Bob Lovely tentatively agreeing with that pile of shit only to bail on the thread when he got pushback. Dave kept it up though, telling everyone YOU'RE BLIND!! YOU'RE BLIND!! This was during the Bush years. I'm not sure when they scrubbed that thread out of existence but it was there for a little while. It was educational, like gee, Canada's got anti-immigrant bigots too, same racist shit I hear from the bigots here but mostly against Asians rather than Hispanics.

https://stereocentral.freeforums.net/thread/5/chris-devoe-fbgc?page=86

#neverforget

https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/best-new-albums-of-2025.1216258/page-12#post-36329358

Such a parasite

wonder what school of rock thinks of this endorsement.

This revive reminds me I sold a cd on Discogs recently to a Steve Hoffman. I did wonder if it was the one and only, but didn’t want to embarrass by asking.

I feel like you have to be looking for an opportunity to be a shithead if you see “dj HorsegiirL” and misread it as “Horsegirl” to jump in with your opportunity to post your video of a child that you thought wasn’t a great performer. And talk about monetizing it!

ah ha, mystery solved

TBF I saw "dj horsegirl" recently on something and was also confused

some good shit here

https://forum.beatlegdb.com/viewtopic.php?t=11953

I scan HF daily to keep up with stuff but I never post and the whole vibe is Not Me.

They REALLY hated the new Talking Heads video for Psycho Killer.

Dogg, I think those "old bands release new video" things are always super goofy but this one was real good

those beatlegdb posters seem kind of paranoid or maybe they aren't using 'sock puppet' the way I understand it. yes there are a few people on there who I think overstate (or flat out lie) about their inside knowledge. There are just more people on there who are fucking annoying. TBH though the majority of posters there are fine (at least in the threads I read).

How has a thread about a reissue of the Beatles mono box gotten to 485 posts in less than three months? WTF my dudes?

that didn't seem like a lot to me, so i checked, it's actually 12k + posts over 485 pages, which seems about right?

lol... was gonna say 485 posts in three months doesn't sound like much.

maybe for ilx

More to the point, how was this announced back in May and I never heard about it? It's sold out now, of course. oh well.

12k + posts over 485 pages

Without reading the thread, I predict:

33% are "I placed my order, can't wait"
33% are "I got an email saying it was delayed, what the hell"
33% are "Got this in the mail today, will listen and report back"

oh, yeah, bungled that. 485 pages, not posts. A lot of the time there will be a totally separate thread for shipping gripes lol

Halfway, I think that's mostly correct, but you are forgetting the 10% that is a fight about the stupidest bit of Beatles minutia, the 5% that is people complaining about another Beatles thread and the 2% that is someone complaining that the hype sticker is 3 millimeters off, thus ruining the entire listening experience.

They dig The Fall, so cool.

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