ILM Top 100 2000-2004: ALBUMS

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(deprogramming it because that's the way they decided they wanted it to sound)

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I have heard Elephant once or twice. It seems to be really annoying in a way that White Blood Cells wasn't.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh well i'm not sure then. The original (progammed version of it) i have is a French import.

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:04 (twenty-one years ago)

[Hmmm, I am being quoted (Neon Golden), which kinda makes me feel like 'hey!' and ':-)' but then reading further I can't help but thinking: "Surely there must be something better than thát, Steve?"]

― willem (willem), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:06 (twenty-one years ago)

if there is it would've taken way too long to find - i am on deadline here you know! People will be able to provide better comments when it's all webpaged up tho.

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:11 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 22

Points: 529
No. of votes: 29
No. of #1 votes: 2

Artist: EMINEM
Title: THE MARSHALL MATHERS LP
Label: Interscope
Year: 2000

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/themarshallmatherslp.jpg

Comments: I think Eminem is some sort of idiot savant, a fool and a fucking genius at the same time, writing the most interesting lyrics since Dylan's prime - you could pen a whole thesis from the one line "I am whatever you say I am," bringing in the way celebrity is constructed, and of course Jesus and Popeye (not an order of preference) and a thousand other things. He's also as good a rhymer as rap has ever produced, with complex and seemingly instinctual internal rhyming and chiming that he delivers beautifully. A colossal talent. (And obviously working with one of the great producers of the last decade-plus helps too.) Martin Skidmore

Recommended tracks: The Real Slim Shady, The Way I Am, Stan, Bitch Please (Part 2)

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:11 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 21

Points: 529
No. of votes: 29
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: THE JUNIOR BOYS
Title: LAST EXIT
Label: KIN
Year: 2004

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/lastexit.jpg

Comments: Call The Junior Boys blue-eyed garage or swingbeatclash; Last Exit is a tantalizing introduction to the JBeez aesthetic. "High Come Down" is the not-at-all-impossible meeting place between Hall & Oates and Timbaland. "Birthday" rigs up a rainy day 2-step pattern and chills it the most with nuvo wavo romanticism. "Last Exit" bristles with thickets of beats as spiny and spare as those of recent garage, but the bruised fruit vocal hiding within couldn't be less grimy. But it's reductive to call the Junior Boys the alternative to Dizzee/Wiley/et al. They simultaneously invoke a half-dozen other genres (heroin house, synth pop, electro, modern US R&B), and grime's ruffneck soldiers are very much slaves to the vibe of London town. But the Boys seem to have soaked up all the nimble fluency and sheer beauty garage sloughed off escaping the pleasure principle. Like AR Kane in the late 80s, who smeared their post-Mary Chain guitar spuzz over then-current house pianos and hip-hop breaks, the Boys' combo of neutered soulboyisms and jiggy electronics give the impression they could be the start of something new for indie rock. Or the public could settle for another wave of emotionally constipated electroclash crypt robbing. In which case, fuck you all, I'm moving to Neptune. Jess

Recommended tracks: High Come Down, Birthday, Last Exit, Bellona

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Crikey, I thought that would be higher.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm surprised it ranked this high - I'd been anticipating an "only #40?! Fuck you all!" scenario.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:23 (twenty-one years ago)

AND THEN THERE WERE XX

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I fully expected it to be at #21.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:24 (twenty-one years ago)

It just seemed to me that a lot of people really adored it. Well I suppose 29 people did.

Stevem why is Eminem #22 and JBeez #21 if they got the same points and number of votes, is it a 'listmakers decision is final' thing? ;)

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:25 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah if anything since 2 people voted Eminem their number one...

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:27 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm guessing averages of the rankings

― cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I think people are confusing 'good music' with 'good music to talk about'.

They might not overlap fully, but the two aren't mutually exclusive either. There's a bit of a tricky relationship there.

― bnw (bnw), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:36 (twenty-one years ago)

more problems with Junior Boys vote on account of album and track of same name. However latest recount shows the album to actually have scored 536, keeping it at 21.

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Ghostface wuz robbed. maybe if he didn't have 2 albums nominated. I was hoping for top 10 for SC and the Junior Boys.

― artdamages (artdamages), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Richard X should really be above GYBE as well - same no. of votes but X Factor got one 45pts score and GYBE got at least one hate vote (meaning it had a higher average of points - as did Eminem which got two hate votes so was deducted 20).

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:47 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm scared to think how high fight test woulda scored without hate votes

― cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:49 (twenty-one years ago)

even without hate votes it would've been in the same spot

blount did you get my e-mail request for a comment yesterday btw?

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:51 (twenty-one years ago)

i just found it in 'bulk'! my email filters are vigilant motherfuckers!

― cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:53 (twenty-one years ago)

and dude one of those requests has noise dudes written all over it

― cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I wonder if Kraftwerk will be in here? I think not.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:54 (twenty-one years ago)

i tried james but i think they're just too noise dude for that, heyelp!

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmm. Fun! Recent votes (JBs, NERD, Broken Social Scene and Prml Scrm) haven't done TOO badly...

― R.I.M.A. (Barima), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 14:10 (twenty-one years ago)

and dude one of those requests has noise dudes written all over it

Wolf Eyes at #1??

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 14:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Echoes!

― R.I.M.A. (Barima), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 14:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, only 17 votes for BSS but 5 #1 picks. That's got to be the highest "average" points/vote we've seen thus far.

Coulda been worse, coulda been the Sigur Ros album that's named after some dumb ass brackets...

But that's a far better album!

― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 15:16 (twenty-one years ago)

My top 8 have now appeared on this list so I have nothing left to root for ... I'll just have to root against R*******d (since it appears they've got three in the top 20).

― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 15:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I wouldn't be surprised if one of those Radiohead songs were left off the list altogether (like "There There").

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

'Like Spinning Plates' definitely should've

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 15:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I was referring to the three albums, but yeah, the tracks too.

― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I am honestly wondering if a Radiohead bloc vote was organised.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 15:38 (twenty-one years ago)

and a daft punk one wasn't?!

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 15:41 (twenty-one years ago)

If one was actually organised it happened without my knowledge Julio!

Putting it another way, I wonder how many people who voted for one Radiohead album voted for all three? I'm just curious.

(There has always been a big pro-'Head contingent on ILM, I'm not saying their (apparently) high placings are in any way illegitimate!)

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry Barry, my mind was on tracks, forgot what thread this was!

I voted for 2 of the 3 Radiohead albums.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)

the three albums all strike me as consistent enough with each other for someone to vote for all three unless there were enough other albums to their preference. there's another artist with three out of four nominations currently unaccounted for too...

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

sorry, sigur ros?

― cºzen (Cozen), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 16:12 (twenty-one years ago)

i voted for kid a but not the other two. It's shorter. and with radiohead that's good. also until this little poll i'd forgotten how much i like the songs on that record. especially everything in its right place.

― danh (danh), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 16:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Yay! That was my nomination. I think all three albums made it
into my top 15, but amnesiac was probably pretty low down.

― Jamie Fake (the pirate king), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 16:41 (twenty-one years ago)

One thing about the Junior Boys album is it's availability. I can't find a retail CD of it out here in the sticks (of Los Angeles), and I've never been able to download proper mp3s (since they released a bunch of loops beforehand). Only through the assistance of a certain "nordic" person was I finally able to listen to it. I love it at this point, but I may have been 'over it' before I even heard it.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 16:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Spencer - I just picked up the Junior Boys at Amoeba.

― T. Weiss (Timmy), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 16:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I only heard it recently, and have wondered whether I would've voted for it if I'd heard it sooner. (At the very least, I think "Birthday" might've gotten a vote.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 16:57 (twenty-one years ago)

In France, "In search of" has been released late summer 2001, the sleeve was different and the record was better without that Spymob instrumentation in my opinion, this is still one of my favorite Neptunes productions alongside "Kaleidoscope", that's why I voted it number one.

― Sami (Sami), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I voted for all 3 Radiohead albums but wasn't part of any bloc. Like I said, I hadn't even much more than 15 albums on the list, I don't think. There were a few albums on there I'd heard but didn't like that much like Fugazi, Le Tigre (Good God, if this is list-worthy indie for this half-decade I'm glad I haven't heard more), and Shellac. And I really love all those Radiohead albums. I listen to them tons.

(Mind you, if, say, Bill Frisell and Meredith Monk and Oren Ambarchi and Phil Jeck and Derek Bailey or Kid Koala or . . . were on there I might not have voted for so much Rhead. Or if Sean Paul or motherfucking Outkast were on there. Or maybe even the Darkness. Or System of a Down. Or Bjork. Radiohead definitely wouldn't have placed so high. And I do want to check out lots of the rap and dance records I haven't heard.)

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 17:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Spencer - I just picked up the Junior Boys at Amoeba.

Thanks for the tip - I'm going after work.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 17:18 (twenty-one years ago)

And, just so you know Barry, GYBE was my #2. I thought their debut was a ponderous 4/4 Pink Floyd plod but from the opening brass glories of Fists I knew they were onto something else - just how great it came out to be was a shock though. Channeling Glenn Branca and Fred Frith at moments, Zoviet France at others, various 80s posthc outifts (probably Sonic Youth and Mission of Burma although someone else could probably tell you better than I) at some points, and Floyd (minus the suck)/Rush at other bits, everything connected into perfectly shaped and paced compositions moving through a spectrum of moods.

And, fuck yeah, it rocks when it has to and crushes when it has to (which isn't all the time) - not for any elevator I could imagine.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 17:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I was about to say I got it there too. Would it be inaccurate to say JBs are like The Postal Service if TPS didn't do everything terribly wrong?

― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 17:20 (twenty-one years ago)

The Postal Service are catchier, Junior Boys have more soul.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 17:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Someone made a Postal Service comparison on a Junior Boys thread, but in a dismissive fashion, i.e., how is this any different from the goddamn Postal Service?

But that's still a good question: I mean, I like both bands, and probably for some similar reasons. Junior Boys have more "mood," though, and the album's more cohesive. Then again, "Such Great Heights" is probably catchier than anything on Last Exit. What exactly does the Postal Service do wrong (other than be liked by indie asshats)?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 17:25 (twenty-one years ago)

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