As a New Zealander, it feels like he translates better to New Zealand than Seger, Mellancamp, or Bryan Adams. He's had two number one albums here (Torpedoes, Hard Promises).
― funk79, Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:37 (ten years ago)
American Girl is also what the Senator's daughter is rocking out to right before being abducted in 'Silence of the Lambs'.
― earlnash, Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:42 (ten years ago)
Re: Refugee (which I somehow have not heard used ironically even once during the whole Syrian debate) -- I had a friend in college who hated Tom Petty solely because the line about "kidnapped-tied up-taken away-held for ransom" drove him crazy. "It has too many words!"
― something totally new, it’s the AOR of the twenty first century (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:52 (ten years ago)
one of three of his songs that could be #1 for me on any given day, the others being Even The Losers & The Waiting.
― campreverb, Thursday, 17 December 2015 20:15 (ten years ago)
I'm not crazy about Refugee, but it has a hell of an intro.
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 17 December 2015 20:16 (ten years ago)
Ever since Amy Ray covered it I've always admired the versatility of "Refugee" as a sort of all-purpose protest song.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 December 2015 20:32 (ten years ago)
according to Iovine in the doc, it took the Heartbreakers days to get the intro right.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 December 2015 20:40 (ten years ago)
agreed Josh.
― campreverb, Thursday, 17 December 2015 20:44 (ten years ago)
I am certain of four of the top five but the fifth eludes me. Do not tell me When The Time Comes is not on this list. DON'T TELL ME.
― Sugarlips, Thursday, 17 December 2015 21:00 (ten years ago)
I'm still trying to squeeze 6 songs into the last 5. Looks like the title track from 'Into The Great Wide Open' missed out on the top 40 altogether, right?
― funk79, Thursday, 17 December 2015 21:07 (ten years ago)
re: Refugee, apparently they did like 70 takes, and fired and rehired Stan like 70 times
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 17 December 2015 21:09 (ten years ago)
re: what's coming http://i.imgur.com/Y22tlUZ.png
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 17 December 2015 21:10 (ten years ago)
http://i.imgur.com/bnbGxA5.jpg
5 (TIE). Stop Draggin' My Heart Around – 333 points (12 votes)http://youtu.be/6UD0c58nNCQ
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 17 December 2015 21:11 (ten years ago)
Yay! I am glad this wasn't $1 since it can only be found on a Stevie Nicks album.
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 17 December 2015 21:13 (ten years ago)
I think it's been added to subsequent editions of the '93 Greatest Hits?
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 December 2015 21:19 (ten years ago)
So mad that one of the Bonnaroos I missed was the one where Petty headlined and Stevie came onstage to sing this.
― something totally new, it’s the AOR of the twenty first century (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 17 December 2015 21:20 (ten years ago)
2006?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyyzgvaYAqk
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 17 December 2015 21:27 (ten years ago)
Yep, that was the one.
― something totally new, it’s the AOR of the twenty first century (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 17 December 2015 21:30 (ten years ago)
Out of curiosity I just checked how many of the songs on my ballot were Campbell co-writes. Six, including this one. That's fewer than I would have thought, but actually looking at the track lists, he generally didn't have more than two or three per album. I think of him as being more of a writing presence than he is.
― something totally new, it’s the AOR of the twenty first century (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 17 December 2015 21:36 (ten years ago)
Just noticed that Stop Draggin is tied, so everything is accounted for.
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 17 December 2015 21:42 (ten years ago)
yup - you nailed it upthread, but i wasn't going to let the cat out
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 17 December 2015 21:51 (ten years ago)
Campbell generally only got co-writing credit for tracks that he created on his own and petty then wrote to (obv the arrangements might change by the time the track was fully produced).
obv i'm on record as seeing his contributions going a lot deeper than that. there are a ton of tracks he didn't get writing credit for that can't be hummed without including his parts.
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 17 December 2015 21:55 (ten years ago)
http://i.imgur.com/WiJUOgy.jpg
5 (TIE). Straight Into Darkness – 333 points (12 votes)Original: http://youtu.be/oUovjEQri2ILive, 1985: http://youtu.be.com/yONs2C6od-g
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 17 December 2015 22:02 (ten years ago)
The obscure album track that surprised absolutely nobody with its placement. Easily one of his greatest songs.
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 17 December 2015 22:11 (ten years ago)
And perfect picture!
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 17 December 2015 22:12 (ten years ago)
I can't think of any recent poll results that more completely reflect the collective idiosyncrasies of ILM. Like, I wouldn't expect your average Tom Petty fan to even know this song, much less put it in the top 10.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 December 2015 22:13 (ten years ago)
Every poll is like this, there's always a Sway.
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 17 December 2015 22:18 (ten years ago)
nah there's tons of polls with predictable results but maybe I'm just focusing on the ones I've run
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 December 2015 22:23 (ten years ago)
It's funny, I don't think of this as obscure because Long After Dark was the first Petty album I owned, and this one got at least some rock radio play at the time. So it's always seemed canonical to me. As a teenager, it was one of those songs that seemed full of adult knowledge -- I couldn't directly relate to the sense of loss, but it made it palpable as a thing that was in the world to be experienced.
― something totally new, it’s the AOR of the twenty first century (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 17 December 2015 22:28 (ten years ago)
(And Campbell's guitar tone gave at least some idea of what it felt like.)
there may be some debate about "Stop Draggin' My Heart Around" being one of Petty's finest songs. however, there should be no debate that "Stop Draggin' My Car Around" is one of Weird Al's least inspired parodies.
― thomp etty (some dude), Thursday, 17 December 2015 22:31 (ten years ago)
yup. if anything we just know now to look for the Sway. #5 on my ballot and in ILM's heart, and apparently one of Springsteen's favorite Petty tunes.
not sure i have anything to say that hasn't been said, and I totally hear what Petty means when he says they tried to do it as a guitar song but it didn't really come to life tip they turned it over to the piano.
dig the live version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86sQqz3GCkE
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 17 December 2015 22:33 (ten years ago)
Yeah, definitely need to give Benmont credit too -- the piano and organ are sad and gorgeous.
― something totally new, it’s the AOR of the twenty first century (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 17 December 2015 22:34 (ten years ago)
It's on the two disc Anthology - feels like that defines the pre-Wildflowers Petty canon.
― funk79, Thursday, 17 December 2015 22:39 (ten years ago)
some dude OTM -- "stop draggin' my heart around" didn't even make my ballot and i still nurse a real grudge against weird al for his lazy-ass parody. come at the king, you best not miss iirc.
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 17 December 2015 22:43 (ten years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb-NHxEFxQUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M191OMg2BEIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEMEpeE_bmYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSs4zE-aDj0
― thomp etty (some dude), Thursday, 17 December 2015 22:51 (ten years ago)
:/
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 17 December 2015 22:57 (ten years ago)
this is why I love participating in polls, you always get that, 'oh yeah, that song!' moment.
― campreverb, Thursday, 17 December 2015 22:58 (ten years ago)
https://i.imgur.com/Jg73LDQ.jpg
4. Even the Losers – 341 points (12 votes, three #1)Studio: http://youtu.be/E30XxSYgmqoLive, 1978 (he's still working on the lyrics): http://youtu.be/hBcBPMckeyM
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 17 December 2015 22:59 (ten years ago)
TOO LOW
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 17 December 2015 23:00 (ten years ago)
lol @ that mustache
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 December 2015 23:00 (ten years ago)
AGH. Too low. My number one, by a wide margin.
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 17 December 2015 23:08 (ten years ago)
BABY EVEN THE COUGARS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhnic4kZFs0
― thomp etty (some dude), Thursday, 17 December 2015 23:08 (ten years ago)
dude we get it
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 December 2015 23:11 (ten years ago)
simmer down, only 1 of the top 3 has a Cougar Town episode named after it
― thomp etty (some dude), Thursday, 17 December 2015 23:13 (ten years ago)
"Cougar Town" sounds like a Mudcrutch title.
― "Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 17 December 2015 23:24 (ten years ago)
Regardless, can we talk about Even The Losers? The bridge (two cars park...) is the greatest moment in Tom Pettydom. It's the song with his most evocative lyric, strongest melody, best use of "oh oh oh oh" on the outro, most melodic chorus and more. Holy mackerel what a song!!!
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 17 December 2015 23:49 (ten years ago)
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 December 2015 23:51 (ten years ago)
"Straight Into Darkness" made it to both "Playback" and "Anthology," so clearly he rates it. As far as album track obscurities go, I'd be curious to see what songs didn't make it to the first three discs of "Playback."
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 December 2015 23:54 (ten years ago)
I'm glad ILM thinks "Losers" is better than 'Refugee"
― sleeve, Thursday, 17 December 2015 23:57 (ten years ago)