YOU RANK ME BABY, YEAH YOU RATE ME 1-2 - ILM Artist Poll #71 - Tom Petty (results)

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Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 17 December 2015 02:28 (ten years ago)

Six outstanding Tom Petty songs that will not be in this poll:

Ain't Love Strange
Let Me Up (I've Had Enough)
Letting You Go
No Second Thoughts
Red River
A Self Made Man

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 17 December 2015 02:30 (ten years ago)

Time to Move On
All Mixed Up
You and I Will Meet Again

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 December 2015 02:38 (ten years ago)

"Let Me Up (I've Had Enough)" is pretty great

Shkreli, Martin & Wu (some dude), Thursday, 17 December 2015 02:39 (ten years ago)

Time to Move On was at #35

funk79, Thursday, 17 December 2015 02:40 (ten years ago)

Yeah, for me it's about that moment in the chorus when the bass and drums bear down real hard before that I'VE HAD ENUUUFFFFFF

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 December 2015 02:40 (ten years ago)

12 of the songs I voted for (including my top 4) have already showed up. I know my #5 will be showing up soon, too.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 17 December 2015 02:41 (ten years ago)

whoops missed it! xpost

man Wildflowers is the best collection of songs Rick Rubin ever produced in the nineties, isn't it?* I listened to it today and was hard pressed to find a song that's out of place or mawkish or terrible. I suppose I could shorten it, but I'm not sure where to start.

* I actually like Jagger's Wandering Spirit a lot.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 December 2015 02:42 (ten years ago)

Speaking of Wildflowers, what's up with the impending Wildflowers II? It's supposed to be a bundle of session outtakes that was to be added to a deluxe edition of the album, but recently has been mooted as a separate release.

"Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 17 December 2015 02:49 (ten years ago)

Good point Mr. Pollrunner. Part of the problem for me is the production/arrangements on Southern Accents. But that just points to my larger problem with this album. I just don't buy it, the way I do Southern Rock Opera or Good Old Boys for example.

campreverb, Thursday, 17 December 2015 02:52 (ten years ago)

Am I expecting too much of this poll to think "Finding Out" might make the top 10?

something totally new, it’s the AOR of the twenty first century (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 17 December 2015 03:11 (ten years ago)

that's what we'll be finding out

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 December 2015 03:11 (ten years ago)

I guess it's a long shot, I figure it's pretty much hits from here on (apart from Straight Into Darkness, which I just assume is in here).

something totally new, it’s the AOR of the twenty first century (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 17 December 2015 03:16 (ten years ago)

xxpost totally agree the album's a mess, and Petty readily concedes he failed to follow through on the concept.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 17 December 2015 03:16 (ten years ago)

Man, I really expected "It'll All Work Out" to land somewhere in the top 40, but unlikely to be top 10. u disappoint me, ilm.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 17 December 2015 03:22 (ten years ago)

I wonder if that song's only gotten exposure in the last decade. I really don't know.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 December 2015 03:34 (ten years ago)

I need to know!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 December 2015 03:35 (ten years ago)

I bought Let Me Up when I was in high school, so it's been a personal favorite of mine for 20+ years. It probably found a new audience when it was in Elizabethtown, though.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 17 December 2015 03:37 (ten years ago)

It made https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthology:_Through_the_Years too, right? I'm assuming the entire top 20, except 'You Wreck Me' which is outside the timeframe, are going to be tracks from the Anthology.

funk79, Thursday, 17 December 2015 03:43 (ten years ago)

That's where I first heard it. I wasn't sure if Elizabethtown had any kind of following.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 December 2015 03:44 (ten years ago)

Perhaps not the film, but it came out when people were still buying the soundtracks to Cameron Crowe movies.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 17 December 2015 03:45 (ten years ago)

wow "It'll All Work Out" is beautiful...i'm sure i listened to it when i was making my deep cuts playlist a couple years ago but i don't remember it, which is crazy because it's great, probably woulda voted for it if i stumbled across it in my recent listening. ton of very sad youtube-esque comments on here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APeP73X0Wc4

Shkreli, Martin & Wu (some dude), Thursday, 17 December 2015 03:46 (ten years ago)

I like how you're warming up to Let Me Up, ship.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 December 2015 03:47 (ten years ago)

i was just thinking earlier about how i feel about the "Free Fallin'" scene in Jerry Maguire...has to be the biggest use of a Petty song in a movie, right? mixed feelings about the movie and the scene but i think it actually did help me think of the song in terms of being kind of a cry of desperation instead of just a catchy chorus.

Shkreli, Martin & Wu (some dude), Thursday, 17 December 2015 03:47 (ten years ago)

wow, "breakdown" seems insanely low to me at #10. the classic rockiest of his classic rock staples. such a great groove. and that riff. and those backing vocals.

fact checking cuz, Thursday, 17 December 2015 03:51 (ten years ago)

It'll All Work Out is unique in how it blends Celtic folk and Far East overtones/undertones. Never quite heard anything like it.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 17 December 2015 03:51 (ten years ago)

this poll has made me really wanna get into cougar town.

dynamicinterface, Thursday, 17 December 2015 04:57 (ten years ago)

Surprised Breakdown isn't higher but that's pretty good. I got the first album when it was the only album, and Breakdown sounded unlike anything else I'd ever heard, to my kid earholes.

Sugarlips, Thursday, 17 December 2015 05:19 (ten years ago)

I've been trying to put my finger on exactly what makes so much Tom Petty great. He's remarkably unambitious - little in the way of big-picture political statements or aspirational poetry - and the skill of his band is what tempers some of his more cliched instincts. Yet maybe that's just it. He doesn't just keep it simple, he keeps it tasteful, which is a whole 'nother skill set, and just as the Heartbreakers are totally ace at turning something boilerplate into rock and roll gold, he's always proved receptive to his band and the ideas they bring, which is another underrated skill set that few bandleaders have managed to maintain for so long.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 December 2015 06:31 (ten years ago)

~on the other hand~ this is a hell of a showing for two and a half minutes of basically a groove and one lick

and to these earholes it ~still~ sounds fresh

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 17 December 2015 06:58 (ten years ago)

i was just thinking earlier about how i feel about the "Free Fallin'" scene in Jerry Maguire...has to be the biggest use of a Petty song in a movie, right?

Yes, but:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW9k44sDctI

Something about Petty and driving goes well in movies, I guess.

Those old enough to remember: was this song a shock in early '85?

The video was on heavy heavy rotation, and obviously it's a creepy video, though not nearly as creepy (literally) as Owner of a Lonely Heart which was also a hit around the same time.

At the time, my local newspaper (The Lake County News-Herald) had a column that reviewed music videos (!), and I remember them trashing "Don't Come Around Here No More" for being mean and violent, even dropping in a "We are not amused."

"Breakdown" was my #12 -- I would've voted it higher but it always leaves me frustratingly wanting more! I guess that's the genius of the Heartbreakers; the entire song comes and goes so quickly, but even in that short time they establish such an amazing space and feel that you can't help but want more from it. A lesser band would have spun it out into eight minutes, but Petty said, "This is the song, it's done, deal." I *almost* gave a nod to the live version on Pack Up The Plantation for its longer length and crazy J. Geils rap in the middle, but figured I'd be the only one.

Still, not a lot of bands would give a song like this and my upcoming #3 that amount of space in the arrangement. It's not that one featured player lays back a little -- EVERYONE lays back, and the song is better for it.

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Thursday, 17 December 2015 12:15 (ten years ago)

As noted on the voting thread, Dwight Twilley is supposedly the one who said "You oughta take that guitar lick from the outro and use it in the intro." Good call, Dwight.

something totally new, it’s the AOR of the twenty first century (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 17 December 2015 13:35 (ten years ago)

Speaking of Petty/"American Girl" In The Movies...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TDdKeb_94Q

"Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 17 December 2015 14:30 (ten years ago)

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9. A Woman in Love (It's Not Me) – 251 points (9 votes, one #1)
http://youtu.be/fKDYErlu5Kc

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 17 December 2015 16:11 (ten years ago)

I guess it's a long shot, I figure it's pretty much hits from here on (apart from Straight Into Darkness, which I just assume is in here)

OTM. The remaining songs can be figured out pretty easily, though that's bad ILM form to do on this thread.

x-post---A Woman In Love was not in my internal calculations, so now my whole theory is shot. I gave you everythign, you threw it all away!!

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 17 December 2015 16:13 (ten years ago)

According to my revised calculations, a major hit is not going to chart. Hmmmm

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 17 December 2015 16:18 (ten years ago)

ooops, never mind. I didn't see Don't Come Around Here No More.

Anyway, I never really liked A Woman In Love, it seems like an inferior version of Here Comes My Girl.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 17 December 2015 16:22 (ten years ago)

no way. if anything, it's Breakdown turned into a real goddamn song, with duck dunn on bass and the rest of the band on fire.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 17 December 2015 16:26 (ten years ago)

i initially turned in a ballot with one song listed twice, and when i realized my mistake, "A Woman In Love" is the song i added to my ballot. one of those songs that seemed to kinda disappear more once it was left off Greatest Hits, really a shame.

Shkreli, Martin & Wu (some dude), Thursday, 17 December 2015 16:26 (ten years ago)

I have this album but for some reason this song has never stood out to me

Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 December 2015 16:29 (ten years ago)

no way. if anything, it's Breakdown turned into a real goddamn song, with duck dunn on bass and the rest of the band on fire.

Good point. But there are some similarities to Here Comes My Girl, they're both track 2, both have spoken verses, soaring chorus.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 17 December 2015 16:42 (ten years ago)

it's also not a spoken verse! def a track 2 with a soaring chorus tho :)

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 17 December 2015 16:49 (ten years ago)

btw a less ethical pollrunner would have definitely moved "a woman in love" a couple notches up his own ballot to make sure it placed ahead of...

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 17 December 2015 16:50 (ten years ago)

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8. You Got Lucky – 253 points (10 votes, one #1)
http://youtu.be/mtLpZWNyM0I

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 17 December 2015 16:50 (ten years ago)

i used to think of that as one of his weaker hits but it's got so many vocal and instrumental hooks, that melody that goes from a high keyboard line to a low guitar lead is so cool.

Shkreli, Martin & Wu (some dude), Thursday, 17 December 2015 16:55 (ten years ago)

hey it's his song in a minor key!
haha, normally something this dated would wear on me, but you know, good love is hard to find.

campreverb, Thursday, 17 December 2015 16:58 (ten years ago)

the video was a vv big deal at the time. that little intro before the song was a major innovation for a promo vid and obj set TP on a long course of wacky, attention-grabbing videos.

history clearly proves me wrong, but tbh imo the "a woman in love" video tops all of them. (tho i have a soft spot for the Little Nemo conceit in "runnin' down a dream")

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 17 December 2015 17:03 (ten years ago)

(dunno why autocorrect would find "obj" so preferable to "obv"...)

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 17 December 2015 17:05 (ten years ago)

tho i have a soft spot for the Little Nemo conceit in "runnin' down a dream"

I do too but it looks terrible in execution unfortunately.

Love this song, the video, the "good little love is hard to find" bit (or whatever it is he mushmouths his way through there)

Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 December 2015 17:08 (ten years ago)

There are about five or 6 songs I like more than this on Long After Dark.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 17 December 2015 17:14 (ten years ago)


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