OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?

okay i just did.

I knew I'd read that one before...

i actually liked that Vice piece.

i feel like they weren't even trying, instead of talking about actual 'hipster' genres they just put 'acceptable' (or some other euphemism for 'hipster') in front of the name of some super broad genre that's existed for decades.

it's more accurate

it is! but in a way that undermines the point/structure of the piece

which is?

ok, you got me!

http://www.independent.co.uk/student/istudents/grime-isn-t-just-music-it-s-about-working-class-struggle-and-its-new-middle-class-fans-need-to-a6777256.html

new contender here

She seems to be a student and has deleted her Twitter account after getting a lot of stick online. You'd have to be under 19 to think that there's anything new in middle-class ppl getting into grime. It kind of looks like another throw-the-intern-to-the-wolves thing.

Yeah after posting I've just gone on and read all that and realised - feel a bit bad now.

fuckwit doesn't mention JME or Lady Leshurr

SV otm, the editorial ppl who keep waving this stuff through when they know it's bad and going to result in fullscale monstering are fucking trash and deserve to be kept awake every night with gnawing self-hatred

If you're not working for a small, specialist publication, can you get people to read/discuss abut music without going down the intern -> wolves route? Not saying it's right, just not all that surprising.

hard to believe the Independent are super invested in getting ppl to read/discuss music articles tbh. if they were perhaps I would remember anything in that section they've published in idk the last few years for any reason other than it being shit

but yeah, not surprising per se but it has no meaningful net benefits that I can figure out and I wd like more editorial types to reach this conclusion also

My reaction to the Indy piece was exactly that: irritation with the piece > realisation that the writer is young and unedited > anger at the editors who know that pieces like this will inspire a backlash and don't care enough about their writers to do anything about it.

it has no meaningful net benefits that I can figure out

Clicks generated by people reading/discussing on social media and forums like this one are meaningful benefits to the publication, no?

'net' being the operative word there. feel like I'm arguing a minority position with this one but the apparently widespread belief that 'being talked about' is all that matters w/ web content like this is fallacious and dense imo. daresay this'll be p much forgotten about in a minute but the gradual accumulation of scorn seems to outweigh the short term benefits of this pish

hey i'm sure the Indie wants nothing more than a slice of that sweet Buzzfeed cred

the gradual accumulation of scorn seems to outweigh the short term benefits

Yeah, maybe, but is that measurable in any way? Or are there many examples of sites/pubs that went too far with this shit and are now out of business?

http://flavorwire.com/553256/stereotyping-you-by-your-favorite-album-of-2015
belongs here, yea or nay?

yea

Genuinely surprised the Kamasi Washington album wasn't on that list. Seemed ripe for exactly that kind of cheap joke.

lol it's ok

the neon indian one should be 2007

oh ffs: http://thenewinquiry.com/essays/hello-from-the-same-side/

That is one for the ages

wow.

Ooh, but it sounds so smart!

Here, identity is a secondary, implicit factor that affects performance, but not the primary, overt criterion for in/exclusion, so “Hello” liberalism can pass as nondiscriminatory and quintessentially liberal. However, the parallels in reception of Trump and “Hello” show that liberal “Hello” fans who overtly disidentify and disagree with Trump’s politics want to experience the same feeling of white privilege in terms more palatable to liberal tastes. This strain of “Hello” fandom is the (neo)liberal version of the same white supremacy that Trump expresses in more traditional terms.

i think i just pulled something

Given the general trend in pop-culture writing in 2015, I'm genuinely surprised at the universal ridicule that piece - which, make no mistake - is a mountain of rotting garbage - is getting. It's only the next point on a line other writers have been marking out all year long.

what we get is a completely standard rock beat, with nary an Amen, breakbeat, 808, or trap hi-hat anywhere in the song.

the gift that keeps giving

yeah this thing is just a perfect storm of bad writing trends, it's the season finale of Thinkpiece Island

xxp honestly it just read as overreaching academic hackwork to me, the kind of theory-kit quick-read that you can get on any academic's blog or in a thrown-together conference presentation. but then i read the author preening about criticism of the piece only confirming her point, which is supremely irritating. i've seen other work of hers that seemed good (with allowances for different academic / pop crit competencies) but i find it deplorable that there are actual working critics out there who could far outstrip her own 'read' on her topic yet lack the prestige of third-gen frankfurt school allusions that would help them mount bad faith defenses of bad thinking like 'u must be butthurt bc my critique implicates u'. oh so trap has funny hi-hat programming wow lotta first-rate knowledge at the forefront of culture you're flashing there no chance an actual critic could ever compare.

http://i.imgur.com/XVz51n2.jpg

ah yes, what if we are the ones who are actually the...what

also reaching for the "trump" card is like one step away from godwin's law here -- really want to read the marshall hatford take on adele.

fuckin kylo ren there

the comparison of an inoffensive song you don't dig to actual physical racial violence is outlandish. and the fact that adele by all accounts is slotted as a "soul" singer of some sort goes completely unremarked, which makes the piece sort of astonishingly and proudly ignorant in terms of its treatment of race.

skrrrrt

not to mention the consistent idea that "naturalness" is a "white" thing, which completely eclipses an entire tradition of neo-soul, roots hip-hop, etc. etc. not to mention which a "natural" as a hairstyle is well... like somebody get this author an Erykah Badu album stat

spite some kind of modern virtue

From the Quietus best albums thing, just one sentence

"The RSS B0ys are a quick fuck on a dirty gas station-toilet with some anonymous stranger." Sonja Matuszczyk

Uhh huhhhhhhhh

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/how-lemmy-and-motorhead-gave-metal-its-umlaut-20151229

this is pretty bad. i'm not sure which is worse on this, the writing or the editorial. on the editorial side, we have a headline about the importance of the umlaut to motorhead which omits the umlaut. on the article side, we have an article about how motorhead brought the umlaut to metal which openly acknowledges that motorhead did not bring the umlaut to metal, but got it from blue oyster cult. also there's this bizarre tangent about amon duul. i'm not sure if browne is actually unaware that umlauts are a standard part of the german language or knows but doesn't care.

Just dropped in to see if that garbage New Inquiry piece had made it. This thread never lets me down.

(Lemmy, a collector of Nazi memorabilia, rarely if ever commented on any connection between that umlaut and Nazi-era use of the dots in say, "Führer.") For Lemmy, the umlaut, like the music and lifestyle he lived until his body couldn't take it anymore, spoke — or pronounced — volumes.

yeah, i got rooked into promulgating the umlaut piece myself... people want more lemmy content right now! A piece on the pictographic history of his mole would likely have tremendous click-through.

that's more of a right-hand-side-of-the-browser affiliate program link

i stand corrected

nazi-era use of the dots