Prefab Sprout- Jordan: The Comeback: Classic or Dud?

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I tend to forget that track due to its spot on the sequence, and always feel a surprised "how could I have forgotten you?" when it plays. "All the World Loves Lovers" is another top one on that disc.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Monday, 7 December 2015 16:00 (eight years ago) link

eleven months pass...

I might be crazy but I think Machine Gun Ibiza is my favorite track on this

calstars, Sunday, 27 November 2016 13:01 (seven years ago) link

I'll chime in with classic as well. Honestly, I never understood the Steely Dan comparisons (well, because I hate Steely Dan) until I heard 'Machine Gun Ibiza.' Great song.
― righteousmaelstrom (righteousmaelstrom), Friday, June 24, 2005 10:07 AM (eleven years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ah, that's what it is

calstars, Sunday, 27 November 2016 13:03 (seven years ago) link

yeah that was my fave off it for the first few weeks after it came out.

you guys should check this out, it's excellent http://www.sodajerker.com/episode-53-paddy-mcaloon/

piscesx, Sunday, 27 November 2016 14:09 (seven years ago) link

Machine Gun Ibiza is the song I've been looking for since 1990 or 1991 when I heard it on college radio. I spent a few years asking for the Machine Gun Beaver song. I'm so happy to have randomly found it because of this thread.

brotherlovesdub, Monday, 28 November 2016 02:43 (seven years ago) link

i love them all but

"scarlet nights" is the best song ever

― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Sunday, December 6, 2015 7:19 PM (eleven months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Monday, 28 November 2016 02:52 (seven years ago) link

actually sometimes my fav is "one of the broken" which is weird bc i was allergic to the god side of this album for at least the first few months i listened to it

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Monday, 28 November 2016 02:53 (seven years ago) link

"End of the road I'm traveling
I will see Jordan beckoning!"

calstars, Monday, 28 November 2016 02:54 (seven years ago) link

yeah that was my fave off it for the first few weeks after it came out.

you guys should check this out, it's excellent http://www.sodajerker.com/episode-53-paddy-mcaloon🔗/

Awesome, thank you! 🙏

Iago Galdston, Monday, 28 November 2016 02:57 (seven years ago) link

Machine Gun Ibiza va Glamour Profession

calstars, Monday, 28 November 2016 02:59 (seven years ago) link

four years pass...

jesse james bolero

ciderpress, Saturday, 16 October 2021 13:47 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

Speaking of which in "Jesse James Symphony" why does Paddy reference Elvis with the lines "Well the zip code may read Vegas / But the heart beats Tupelo"? Is he comparing Jesse James to Elvis in terms of a wayward life?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 11 December 2021 22:12 (two years ago) link

Excerpt from Melody Maker, summer 1990 by Simon Reynolds

Jordan The Comeback was originally intended as a double album, and three of the sides are suites of thematically linked songs. One suite addresses the "bad boy" myth, using Jesse James as archetype of the spoilt mothers boys, who goes on the run from domesticity. But, grins Paddy, they're all really about Elvis.

Paddy: "The title track is Elvis as Howard Hughes on the top floor of his hotel in Vegas. I wanted to get an Elvis imitator to sing it, but then decided it was bit gimmicky. It's an Elvis monologue, him looking back at his life and saying 'I didn't do it right, but if I come back it'll be gospel music all the way and sod this 'Wooden Heart' crap. 'Jesse James Symphony' and 'Jesse James Bolero" came about when I was trying to kickstart my writing again, and I thought: 'what if I was writing something for someone like Streisand or Presley?'. I decided to write something that would have appealed to Elvis' own self-image. He liked to identify with mythic things, you can see that in his 'American Trilogy'. So I wrote something that dealt with him in those mythic proportions: the image of the outlaw, and all the sentimentality that allows the singer. The idea of his mother looking at him in the cradle, and then he ends up as this big fat guy onstage in Vegas that half the world wants to go to bed with. He's gone from from wearing your nappy, to wearing a nappy again, cos he's incontinent in your bed, which he was at the end. Finally, "Moondog" is about... if he came back, where would the Colonel have him playing?. There's only one place big enough, the moon. A satellite link-up."

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 12 December 2021 17:07 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

monster classic. possibly the defining text of "poptimism" as a movement in my view? I've gone on record calling it the last record of the '80s before and I still stand by it (that or Behaviour, anyway) -- you can read it as a concept album from a guy who seems to believe that Elvis is genuinely some sort of biblical prophet-in-hiding who can be willed to return if all the forms of 20th-century pop song are ordered in the correct fashion and brought forward into the age of the CD, and it's a sort of deeply poignant celebration for this strange and impossible mythology. there's this bizarre Lucifer : Elvis : Jesse James :: Archangel Michael : Colonel Tom : Robert Ford metaphor going on underneath the surface that gets borderline esoteric in its construction of the popstar as a doomed figure grasping for a return towards eternal life through this mythmaking, and I think the Jesse James duology is the point at which this really comes into relief as this brief moment of lucidity where all these figures align and reveal themselves as finite. and then you get songs like "Machine Gun Ibiza", where another immortal pop figure gets invented out of thin air as if from a dream and becomes eminently unattainable through his effortless cool, while "All the World Loves Lovers" and "Wild Horses" for example gesture at this finitude through the lens of romantic desire, the secret engine of the pop song, and then "Scarlet Nights"/"Doo-Wop in Harlem" ties the whole message together in a sort of wistful Janus-faced acceptance that everything will occur again in this strange pop-myth and also that these things as experienced, these flesh-and-blood figures and the music of things past and the emotions as felt and not transcribed, will end some day. as someone who is not religious I am fascinated by the effect that his upbringing and teenage dreams of joining the priesthood seem to have had on Paddy, a man who seemed to commit fairly hard to agnosticism in his personal life by, like, 1984-ish.

one of the sharpest minds in the business and his band of crack-team veterans suddenly gets really weird and huge for exactly one album and then the whole thing falls apart as he tries to push this envelope further to the chagrin of his label and then has a bunch of health issues while everyone in the band ends up doing their own thing -- but man! what a feat that one album is

slamdunkrai, Tuesday, 11 June 2024 22:31 (four days ago) link

that was one helluva post that i only partly understood. :)

gneiss, gneiss, very gneiss (outdoor_miner), Wednesday, 12 June 2024 00:38 (three days ago) link

good post. great record

ciderpress, Wednesday, 12 June 2024 01:21 (three days ago) link

I love the post but I can't hold it together as a concept album - either I'm not reading it right, it's too obtuse or, well, Paddy only vaguely meant it to be thematically complete. Not that I give a shit; it's utterly magnificent either way.

I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Wednesday, 12 June 2024 07:02 (three days ago) link

That is a great post but is Paddy not a believer of some description? His music/love/god equivalence just seems too persistent.

imo three of the sides hold together as concepts that connect tightly within a side and loosely over sides - 2 lays out the Elvis/Jesse James/Lucifer line, 3 is love/music in/as a life (adolescent pop-love-infatuation, marriage, children), 4 is redemption. I've always seen 1 as a just a pile of great songs (and machine gun ibiza). I think the big thematic sweep works if you squint, but it isn't tightly themed.

woof, Thursday, 13 June 2024 18:19 (two days ago) link

paddy has explained this hasn’t be? the four sides are all self contained, side 2 is the Elvis side, one of them is the “perfect pop” side on whatever

brimstead, Thursday, 13 June 2024 21:21 (two days ago) link

He originally wanted to be a priest correct? Rare for the feelings that lead a man there disappear completely imo

H.P, Thursday, 13 June 2024 22:14 (two days ago) link


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