kehlani - you should be here (2015)

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"The Letter" is so brutal.

― Tim F, Friday, November 20, 2015 11:16 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

totally. really exemplifies what makes her songwriting so effective for me - it's so unflinching, she doesn't sugarcoat any word or emotion (and her relatively plain style of singing accentuates this), but really elegant in the way she pieces together a situation and its consequences via so many details that bring the entire song into focus

lex pretend, Tuesday, 24 November 2015 18:08 (ten years ago)

"bright" is like the exact inverse of "the letter", kehlani becoming everything she needed but never had

lex pretend, Tuesday, 24 November 2015 18:21 (ten years ago)

Voted Runnin'. I love that song.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 24 November 2015 19:42 (ten years ago)

I wrote something about this album for my local paper column back in May:

Precious few serious people now maintain that mainstream R&B is manufactured, soulless pap. Indeed, a certain carefully curated appreciation of the style is necessary to establish oneself as a rounded and culturally diverse listener. But this orthodoxy is a limited win for the genre critically, revolving as it does around certain overfamiliar archetypes. Consider the twin female pillars of social genuflection: on the one hand, the Queen Bae, and on the other, the enigmatic departed siren Aaliyah. Beyonce’s appeal resides in both universalism and force, as if she is performing not just what we feel but what we want to feel, only more powerfully and with more expressive nuance than we could. Aaliyah’s lionisation reflects the opposite trend: R&B as the mysterious blank slate, the singer whose true feelings are forever denied to us, leaving a void we’re anxious to fill with our own projected fantasies (never mind that this characterisation doesn’t really capture the charms of Aaliyah’s recorded work).

But there are other archetypes, or even just character types, that get dealt out of the story by the relentless march of history. Lately I’ve been thinking about Nivea, a minor player in the millennial R&B renaissance who scored only one hit with 2002’s Don’t Mess With The Radio. Specifically, I’ve been thinking about 2004’s Parking Lot, a fantastically understated song about creeping out on your sleeping man to hook up with your side-thug: “meet me at the McDonald’s parking lot”, Nivea instructs, in what might be R&B’s least glamorous but most real moment ever. Delivered in Nivea’s unaffected, slightly husky alto, the song imagines R&B as unvarnished, plain-spoken but intimate, up-close confessionals drawn from real life. I can’t think of another song quite like it.

But if Parking Lot stands alone, the idea of mainstream R&B delivering life-sized relatability is expertly executed on You Should Be Here, the second album from 19 year old Oakland singer Kehlani, which has been captivating me all week. Kehlani is more classically expressive than Nivea was – you can tell she’s seen American Idol before – but she shares a hint of huskiness and, more importantly, that overriding air of familiarity, delivering her songs with the unfiltered directness of your lover, your best friend or your ex. It’s the addressee, the listener, who changes hats depending on subject matter; Kehlani’s overriding sense of personality remains constant even as she pivots from ecstatic romance on Unconditional to big-sister life affirmation on Bright to knowing dismissal on How That Taste or Jealous (the latter a kiss-off to a fling who takes photos with her to make his ex-girlfriends jealous on social media - Kehlani takes narrative detail quite seriously). She addresses her refusal to play along on Runnin’: “does it make you nervous that I’m not afraid to say what I want?” she taunts both a lover and her listeners.

If there’s a drawback to this, it’s that Kehlani’s consistent relatability can make the album at first seem more samey than it really is, as do the arrangements' seamlessly executed stylistic potpourri cherry-picking the best R&B sounds of the past two decades (stuttering Timblaland beats, synth horns, trap snares); the songs’ diversity and range are handled so capably and unselfconsciously that they're easy to underestimate; conversely, it's this which also gives the album an ease and staying power which, while it might not support breathless social media hype, makes it a welcoming pleasure to return to.

The concomitant pay-off is most evident in The Letter, nominally the album’s big ballad, in which Kehlani directly addresses the mother who abandoned her, her temptation to blame herself ("maybe I didn't deserve you" she repeatedly wonders) as cutting as her refusal to forgive. “If you weren’t going to guide me / why bring me into the light?” she asks, her deceptive gentleness like a knife twisting in your stomach. It's strong stuff, but there's no gratuitous melodrama here, just ice cold clarity and unflinching honesty. Avoiding grand gestures, Kehlani measures her punches so that they're just sharp and powerful enough to penetrate your defences before you have time to steel yourself.

Tim F, Tuesday, 24 November 2015 22:30 (ten years ago)

that's really great, "unselfconscious" is really key to this album. the arrangements are never striking in and of themselves - maybe this is why it flew under the radar? as well, as, yes, consistency meaning no one stand-out to rally around - they're really good frames for her songs but never the focal point

lex pretend, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 10:06 (ten years ago)

also didn't realise that this was technically sold as a mixtape rather than her debut album!

lex pretend, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 10:07 (ten years ago)

good stuff tim

Spottie, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 17:04 (ten years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Sunday, 29 November 2015 00:01 (ten years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Monday, 30 November 2015 00:01 (ten years ago)

you should vote here

j., Monday, 30 November 2015 00:08 (ten years ago)

I didn't discover this album until last weekend. I'm looking forward to digging in. "The Letter" is the early highlight.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 November 2015 00:57 (ten years ago)

"Jealous" is my favourite song not to get a vote.

Tim F, Monday, 30 November 2015 02:14 (ten years ago)

Haha classic early adopter ilx poll results

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 30 November 2015 03:16 (ten years ago)

i think i forgot, i woulda voted for 'be alright' : /

j., Monday, 30 November 2015 03:18 (ten years ago)

no wait 'bright'

j., Monday, 30 November 2015 03:18 (ten years ago)

the empowering one

j., Monday, 30 November 2015 03:18 (ten years ago)

grammy nominated

J0rdan S., Monday, 7 December 2015 17:45 (ten years ago)

RIGHT HERE

j., Monday, 7 December 2015 19:08 (ten years ago)

http://www.hotnewhiphop.com/kehlani-tore-up-new-song.1967554.html

Spottie, Monday, 7 December 2015 20:39 (ten years ago)

Great piece, Tim (though disagree somewhat about Beyonce as universalist: think she gives this innocent/simple country boy mind the grand illusion of seeing through *her* eyes, feeling the rush and massive skyscraper impact of *her* outsized experience, sometimes anyway). Also other comments on this thread got me going, will check alb.

dow, Monday, 7 December 2015 20:47 (ten years ago)

didn't vote in this but i've been feeling Bright lately

thom yorke state of mind (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 17:26 (ten years ago)

Jealous is the earworm on here for me

pplasma, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 20:34 (ten years ago)

new song "Did I" is def a step closer to the mainstream

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 17 December 2015 07:53 (ten years ago)

heh i too once eagerly invoked nivea to sell this (or perhaps the prev one idk) to someone before sternly reminding myself that irlx is not a thing

looking forward to her going a bit more pop if so, feels right now. maybe someone oughta hook her up with some y2k 'he loves u not'/ 'no matta what' spazz beats just cos she can

r|t|c, Thursday, 17 December 2015 10:10 (ten years ago)

Omg yes

Tim F, Thursday, 17 December 2015 10:43 (ten years ago)

almost too cruel to invoke that possibility when it will never happen

i think she'll be great at going pop in whatever era though, albeit not with this new one specifically, which feels a bit trudging compared with her own stuff

cher guevara (lex pretend), Thursday, 17 December 2015 17:48 (ten years ago)

relistening to "he loves u not" now (<3) and the first girl really is a dead ringer for kehlani!

cher guevara (lex pretend), Thursday, 17 December 2015 17:49 (ten years ago)

maybe the pop & oak connection is polluting my thinking here but the way the sample is used in the "did i" hook is a little too reminiscent of "say it" for me

J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 December 2015 17:53 (ten years ago)

the rap part of the verses remind me of drake's big rings hook

thom yorke state of mind (voodoo chili), Thursday, 17 December 2015 18:11 (ten years ago)

good bridge

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:20 (ten years ago)

which actually reminds me of "FWU"

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:21 (ten years ago)

three months pass...

what the fuck is going on

j., Tuesday, 29 March 2016 07:01 (ten years ago)

http://www.factmag.com/2016/03/29/kehlani-suicide-attempt/

Always so sad to hear about anyone reaching this place.

tangenttangent, Tuesday, 29 March 2016 11:17 (ten years ago)

one month passes...

new song
https://soundcloud.com/kehlanimusic/24-7a

Spottie, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 21:52 (ten years ago)

this one's dope, way better than 'did i' IMO

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 23:43 (ten years ago)

THE EAST COAST AINT GOT NO LOVE FOR KEHLANI ?

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 22:34 (ten years ago)

two months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRHoonuZ8og

Spottie, Monday, 18 July 2016 16:24 (nine years ago)

Not as into that one as the other new one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCGky5MaSLs

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 25 July 2016 03:36 (nine years ago)

something very swv about "distraction", i love it (and "24/7" is also such a necessary song)

lex pretend, Saturday, 30 July 2016 11:26 (nine years ago)

I love it too but it's about 45 seconds too long? idk

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 July 2016 14:13 (nine years ago)

one month passes...

"The Letter" is so brutal.

― Tim F, Friday, November 20, 2015 11:16 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

totally. really exemplifies what makes her songwriting so effective for me - it's so unflinching, she doesn't sugarcoat any word or emotion (and her relatively plain style of singing accentuates this), but really elegant in the way she pieces together a situation and its consequences via so many details that bring the entire song into focus

― lex pretend, Tuesday, November 24, 2015 12:08 PM (nine months ago)

it's kind of fucked to put it even as early as trk 9 / 8 (w/ intro), since it wrecks you and then the next few songs can just pass by in a daze

j., Sunday, 4 September 2016 01:38 (nine years ago)

"crzy" is getting those payola spins

dyl, Sunday, 4 September 2016 20:51 (nine years ago)

three weeks pass...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtjoPDgUEAErbq-.jpg:large

Spottie, Thursday, 29 September 2016 23:04 (nine years ago)

three months pass...

can we initiate hype proceedings for the ilm aoty 2017 or what

'undercover' is perfect

r|t|c, Thursday, 12 January 2017 13:02 (nine years ago)

looking forward to her going a bit more pop if so, feels right now. maybe someone oughta hook her up with some y2k 'he loves u not'/ 'no matta what' spazz beats just cos she can

― r|t|c, Thursday, 17 December 2015 10:10 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Omg yes

― Tim F, Thursday, 17 December 2015 10:43 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

almost too cruel to invoke that possibility when it will never happen

― cher guevara (lex pretend), Thursday, 17 December 2015 17:48 Bookmark

lowkey close!!

r|t|c, Thursday, 12 January 2017 13:06 (nine years ago)

I'ma save your name under somethin' else
I'ma keep your things deep in myself
I'ma tweet our inside jokes to the outside world
Forget you, go away
I'ma pick you up from the back in trains
Kept you in the world when it's all pretend
You're just you, I'm just me
There's no us, it's nothin'

r|t|c, Thursday, 12 January 2017 13:13 (nine years ago)

'undercover' is perfect

― r|t|c, Thursday, January 12, 2017 6:02 AM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeh it is.

Spottie, Thursday, 12 January 2017 16:58 (nine years ago)

i loooove "undercover" and basically all of the other songs i've heard from this record

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Thursday, 12 January 2017 17:01 (nine years ago)

it's not even like chance x tlc blew my mind or anything but as soon i saw the cover and title i had this v relaxed certainty that yes this album will be a happening

now it feels like being in the airfield tower watching the career plane approach smoothly for landing

still quite opaque to locate the moment when/why her tide rose. to say it was the incident is reductively cynical but also pretty wrong i think

r|t|c, Thursday, 12 January 2017 17:17 (nine years ago)

weirdly i think it was the grammy nom? like, them getting her singer-songwriterliness

lex pretend, Thursday, 12 January 2017 17:19 (nine years ago)

this is her weakest to my ears

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 May 2022 19:31 (four years ago)

easily

he was eating Vaseline like it was bunch of cheeseburgers (Spottie), Wednesday, 4 May 2022 19:37 (four years ago)

I feel like if she waited a bit longer between albums and gathered up the best material she had, instead of doing random singles and mixtapes, she would have a better strike rate. Six albums (or album-length projects) in eight years is a lot.

boxedjoy, Wednesday, 4 May 2022 20:05 (four years ago)

one year passes...

"after hours" is ahh... hmm...

interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 18:17 (two years ago)

horrible

I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 18:21 (two years ago)

sigh.

i hated it immediately :(

interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 19:03 (two years ago)

i think it's fine if undistinguished and obvious

dyl, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 23:32 (two years ago)

same but as a direction i like it a lot better than that last album which was by far the most forgettable of her career

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 2 May 2024 17:55 (two years ago)

one month passes...

this is certainly the first time I've become aware of a new Kehlani video by reading Al Jazeera:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpI7ekFG8A0

rob, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 20:51 (two years ago)

one month passes...

i actually like “after hours” a lot, good summer record. there is a yearning & longing that i think plays off the sample really well

the rest of the album however

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 11 July 2024 14:59 (one year ago)

I like the album better than anything she's put out since 2019. I do not like the Christina Aguilera interpolation or the Jill Scott number.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 July 2024 15:14 (one year ago)

After hours is a gem, yes

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 11 July 2024 17:40 (one year ago)

one month passes...

new mixtape is about a billion times better than the new album, you hate to see it but it happens

ivy., Saturday, 31 August 2024 20:12 (one year ago)

i like the song named after her that she remixed lol

dyl, Sunday, 1 September 2024 03:03 (one year ago)

ten months pass...

“folded” is her best song in years

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 29 July 2025 00:13 (ten months ago)

up there with ari lennox “pressure” for me in terms of songs that evoke the sound/vocals/songwriting of early 00s r&b without bashing you over the head with it

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 29 July 2025 00:16 (ten months ago)

Love this, real Nivea vibes

Tim F, Tuesday, 29 July 2025 04:42 (ten months ago)

yes!

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 29 July 2025 15:43 (ten months ago)

great song

dyl, Monday, 11 August 2025 01:52 (ten months ago)

two months pass...

anyone else's soty?

dyl, Friday, 17 October 2025 02:31 (seven months ago)

yes i had been meaning to bump this thread saying the same thing

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Friday, 17 October 2025 06:42 (seven months ago)

if you put sza aside i think “folded” has an argument for best r&b single of the last several years

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Friday, 17 October 2025 06:44 (seven months ago)

six months pass...

anyone have thoughts on the album? it feels weirdly lacking hits to me aside from “folded” which i think explains the single choices after, can’t tell where i land exactly in the spectrum between “like” and “love.” the production is all really masterfully done, “folded” feels like the high water mark songwriting wise perhaps. i actually think the second half is better than the first half, “call me back” thru “sweet nuthins” is my fav stretch

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 28 April 2026 00:15 (one month ago)

t-pain washes every guest on this album, his verse is incredible

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 28 April 2026 00:27 (one month ago)

ya “call me back” is a very serious song of the year contender

harper valley paul thomas anderson (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 28 April 2026 14:08 (one month ago)

I like it quite a bit, though many of the guest spots (Big Sean, Clipse, for ex) don't land for me. "Cruise Control" and "Sweet Nuthins" are beautiful.

boners for bombs (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 April 2026 14:25 (one month ago)

lil wayne's verse starts the album on a very strange note. not a terrible verse but idk why his voice is the first one we hear on this album after the intro. agree with j0rdan that the "call me back"-"sweet nuthins" stretch is the strength.

it's interesting that so much of the marketing (and kehlani's own touting) of the album posits her as the "future of r&b" when, 1) she is very much r&b's present lol, and 2) this is a very traditional, cd-era style r&b album

harper valley paul thomas anderson (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 28 April 2026 14:28 (one month ago)

We're in mind-meld here, y'all: https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/kehlani-kehlani/

boners for bombs (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 April 2026 14:30 (one month ago)

i'm gonna add "unlearn" to the stretch of highlights, really well-sung ballad.

harper valley paul thomas anderson (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 28 April 2026 14:39 (one month ago)

lil wayne's verse starts the album on a very strange note. not a terrible verse but idk why his voice is the first one we hear on this album after the intro.

right exactly. i think the first two songs in general threw me off bcuz i think they're some of the weakest on the album -- not bad at all but just feel like they kinda map the blueprint of aughts r&b w/o adding much too it -- you get the sorta rich harrison, usher - "throwback" vibes but it feels a bit too much like vibes. i think when this gets to the brandy track it settles in tho, not sure the missy or usher tracks really slap either but the album hits a groove it rides out thru that really nice back stretch at the end

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 28 April 2026 16:03 (one month ago)

of all the songs "call me back" is the one to me that is nailing a very specific reference while also, like, accessing some depth of feeling that adds to the lineage of what it is referencing, feels like there is some deep emotional connection to the source material that brought real emotion out of the artist etc. not to say that the rest of the album fails by that rubric, there are other songs that get somewhat close, but that's the one that hits the bullseye for me

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 28 April 2026 16:09 (one month ago)

i'm loving 'call me back' too but confused as to what lead to the album having such a "retro" set of features? wayne, clipse, missy, usher, t-pain, brandy, big sean, reads like track list of a pop-rap/r&b album from 2009. the production isn't particularly throwback to that era either

flopson, Tuesday, 28 April 2026 18:03 (one month ago)

It had to have been conscious. I haven't read the press release though.

boners for bombs (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 April 2026 18:39 (one month ago)

idk i have to disagree that the production isn't very overtly throwing it back to early-mid 00s R&B, i think it's pretty explicit

my theory is that "folded" took off and gave her a strong sense of direction for this album -- we all were comparing it to usher, nivea etc -- but perhaps it was planned all along. i think either way it's basically a millennial version of returning to your R&B roots, which i think was very important and smart for her, she knocked herself off her axis w/ 'blue water road' (a lot of people straight up forget this album even exists) and 'crash' further felt like she was just flailing around artistically. 'while we wait 2' was bending it back in the right direction but i think leaning into the very specific pastiches of this era realigned the planets for her. i mean, the name of her debut album is one of the most specific R&B references you could make so grounding herself very concretely w/in genre confines, and even sanding the confines down further, feels like a comfort zone for her

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 29 April 2026 17:00 (one month ago)

yeah maybe you're right and it's just a bit subtle

flopson, Wednesday, 29 April 2026 22:43 (one month ago)


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