Is Milli Vanilli a fraud?

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I went to a Milli Vanilli / Paula Abdul concert at a local amusement park at the height of "Girl You Know It's True" / "Blame it on the Rain" mania.

I saw them in concert,too w/ Young MC, and Seduction when I was 7. I liked the songs regardless of who was singing and I had a good time.

Alicia (Leelee), Sunday, 28 November 2004 07:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Alicia Silverstone isn't in Aerosmith but Liv Tyler is...

cowhide boy, Sunday, 28 November 2004 08:20 (twenty-one years ago)

LMAO. About 10 years ago, Rob Pilatus tried to break into my friend's neighbor's car and the guy came outside and beat his ass with a baseball bat.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Haywood Jublome, Sunday, 28 November 2004 22:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I wonder what would happen if the voice of Britney turned out to be a woman looking remarkably like Roseanne Barr. No impact at all we'd expect, eh?

Kim (Kim), Sunday, 28 November 2004 22:41 (twenty-one years ago)

The Real Milli Vanilli

John Davis and Brad Howell

Lil Bit, Monday, 29 November 2004 00:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Lil Bit, Monday, 29 November 2004 00:47 (twenty-one years ago)

The real singers looked like this


scary

Haywood Jublome, Monday, 29 November 2004 01:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Not much different from the singer in Was (Not Was), ne?

BTW, the C+C video fakery did cause a bit of a stink, as did the use of "Felly" lip synching Ya Kid K's lines in Technotronic's "Pump Up the Jam" vid.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Monday, 29 November 2004 01:57 (twenty-one years ago)

And I like all of those fakers

Stacy, Monday, 29 November 2004 02:00 (twenty-one years ago)

the guy came outside and beat his ass with a baseball bat

Beat on the brat with a baseball bat! Oh yeah, oh yeah oh oh

Uncle Billy Bo Bob, Monday, 29 November 2004 05:07 (twenty-one years ago)

As Rick James Said, "Hey, if someone offered you all the money, sex and drugs you wanted, you'd do it, too."

Lil Bit, Monday, 29 November 2004 19:55 (twenty-one years ago)

About 10 years ago, Rob Pilatus tried to break into my friend's neighbor's car and the guy came outside and beat his ass with a baseball bat.

I remember hearing about that. The same year, he beat a man up with a lamp.

Ramonesfan, Monday, 29 November 2004 21:29 (twenty-one years ago)

They're dead now, right?

BettyBoop, Tuesday, 30 November 2004 03:26 (twenty-one years ago)

You're half right. Rob Pilatus died of a booze-and-pill overdose back in '98. Fabrice Morvan is alive and well and he's not a bad singer. Now he's on some show in Germany, not sure what the name of it is, though.

Leelee, Tuesday, 30 November 2004 04:40 (twenty-one years ago)

"Musically, we are more talented than any Bob Dylan..."

What's worse, after being roundly ridiculed for these absurd statements, Pilatus denied it in the LA Times, which I worked for at the time, saying, "I was in shock when I read it, I am a fan of Mick Jagger and the Stones. I mean I knew I wasn't singing, so why would I ever criticize the Beatles. All I said was that Elvis was a big idol in his time and we were big in ours." However, the Time magazine interview is on tape, the quotes were as they were presented, and he sounds very sincere. The reporter even gave him a chance to explain or retract his statement by asking him what he meant and he continued, saying he was more creative than all the artists he previously mentioned and that,"It's more difficult to sing a song like Milli Vanilli than a Beatles song." As if he would know.

Hotpants, Tuesday, 30 November 2004 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

"It's more difficult to sing a song like Milli Vanilli than a Beatles song." As if he would know.

Well, that's pretty much true isn't it? I mean the Beatles songs were simple enough that the same guys could write, record, and play them live. With MV, the task of recording those hits was so grueling that new guys had to be brought in to do the dancing, photo shoots, interviews, etc. The MV beast was a complex and well-oiled machine. At least until the wheels came off.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 20:08 (twenty-one years ago)

(Also, it harder to sing "Blame It On The Rain" than almost any Beatles song I can think of, largely because the voice-leading of Beatles melodies is far superior.)

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 20:16 (twenty-one years ago)

With MV, the task of recording those hits was so grueling that new guys had to be brought in to do the dancing, photo shoots, interviews, etc.

While I do like some of those hits and I don't understand why they were nearly universally reviled by critics, I doubt that it took considerable effort to record them. More than anything, the producer hired the duo because he felt that the real singers didn't have the looks or the moves for pop stardom.

Hotpants, Tuesday, 30 November 2004 22:08 (twenty-one years ago)

The real singers were pretty good. Did they ever go on to make more albums?

Sabrina, Wednesday, 1 December 2004 02:47 (twenty-one years ago)

While I do like some of those hits and I don't understand why they were nearly universally reviled by critics, I doubt that it took considerable effort to record them.

Yeah, it was a joke.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 03:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Back in 1990, I reviewed a Milli Vanilli concert at the Universal Amphitheatre. They opened it with a sword fight with a pair of black-cloaked ninja warriors(representing music critics, perhaps?) After "slaying" the ninjas, the duo performed their hits with plenty of braid-swinging and high-energy dancing. They were lip-syncing quite well, too, as I was sitting in one of the front rows and I could not tell they were miming. I would have left the concert thinking good ole' Rob and Fab had sung if they hadn't pulled these two girls out of the audience and spent forever making out with them while the music was still running. LOL

Hotpants, Wednesday, 1 December 2004 05:31 (twenty-one years ago)

The real singers were pretty good. Did they ever go on to make more albums?

Frank Farian re-launched the group in 1991 as the Real Milli Vanilli, using the singers from the original studio sessions but their LP "The Moment Of Truth" flopped.


Alicia (Leelee), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I would have left the concert thinking good ole' Rob and Fab had sung if they hadn't pulled these two girls out of the audience and spent forever making out with them while the music was still running.

HAHA. I saw them in concert too. They brought a girl out of the front row and sat her between them and cuddled her throughout a ballad. Thinking back, I wondered why they did that since the girl would have known that they were not singing. I guess they had a lot of habits like this that led to their being exposed.

Alicia (Leelee), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 16:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Interesting. I want to hear that CD, do you know if it's any good?

Sabrina, Wednesday, 1 December 2004 19:08 (twenty-one years ago)

three weeks pass...
Milli Vanilli *shudder*

I used to love those guys when I was little. I still like some of "their" songs but they were the cheesiest band ever. The shoulder pads, the blazers and spandex, and thigh high boots, the moves, the HORROR! And I would love to find a clip of their famous "girl you know it's girl you know its..." screwup. I've searched google and kazaa, to no avail.

MelMel, Monday, 27 December 2004 21:30 (twenty-one years ago)

six months pass...
I had forgotten all about Milli Vanilli until they played Blame it On the Rain on VH1's Most Awesomely Bad Breakup songs. I don't think it's a bad song, though.

Zorene, Sunday, 10 July 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

MelMel, I suggest that you try Bittorrent.

Zorene, Sunday, 10 July 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

"Musically, we are more talented than any Bob Dylan. Musically, we are more talented than Paul McCartney. Mick Jagger, his lines are not clear. He don't know how he should produce a sound. I'm the new modern rock-n-roll. I'm the new Elvis." - Rob Pilatus

-- Leelee (Alicia_Sla...), November 25th, 2004.

i wish more artists these days had that lack of humility!

latebloomer: the Clonus Horror (latebloomer), Sunday, 10 July 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)

I wonder if Rob is a distant descendant of Pontius Pilatus

Zorene, Sunday, 10 July 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)

Or if he does Pilatus?

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Sunday, 10 July 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)

two years pass...

That Milli Vanilli "scandal" was the most rockist bollocks ever... I never liked the band, but what difference does it make whether the two muppets who appeared in the video sung on the record or not? Surely the music is all that matters.

The Real Dirty Vicar, Saturday, 13 October 2007 17:53 (eighteen years ago)

that dog ain't gonna hunt DV

J0hn D., Saturday, 13 October 2007 18:32 (eighteen years ago)

because the real rockism is in not just letting the dudes who sang the song appear on the cover & the stage, y'know

J0hn D., Saturday, 13 October 2007 18:33 (eighteen years ago)

now that was a rather post-rockist way of put'in' it

t**t, Saturday, 13 October 2007 18:53 (eighteen years ago)

tortoise would've said it like that fer sure

latebloomer, Saturday, 13 October 2007 22:08 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

The real singers looked like this

dude on the left actually kinda looks like jermaine "we don't have to take our clothes off" stewart ... if mr. stewart weren't a eunuch.

Eisbaer, Monday, 10 December 2007 04:56 (eighteen years ago)

four years pass...

http://i49.tinypic.com/k3lrx1.gif

crüt, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 07:15 (thirteen years ago)

I want to know what happened to Brad Howell

crüt, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 07:17 (thirteen years ago)

ty for dn

ICY BRO (SPECIAL GUEST) (some dude), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 09:52 (thirteen years ago)

DAMMIT I WANTED THAT

Manchild in Beantown (stevie), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 09:55 (thirteen years ago)

these motherfuckers mad that I'm icy!

ICY BRO (SPECIAL GUEST) (some dude), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 09:56 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p_ZcG_YQCI

interested persons might also wanna check the uploader's 244 other vids; his username is FRANKFARIANTHEHITMAN

Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 10:08 (thirteen years ago)

kind of a goldmine tbh, here's a Farian-produced pre-solo Terence Trent D'arby act

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGi_Afpj0f4&feature=share&list=UU3IWQ_M-AzO-vlYnpVQGqWQ

Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 10:12 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jIEEyK7yj4&feature=share&list=UU3IWQ_M-AzO-vlYnpVQGqWQ

Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 10:16 (thirteen years ago)

ok one last one, this is Rob & Fab actually singing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtPrlItmpro&feature=share&list=UU3IWQ_M-AzO-vlYnpVQGqWQ

FRANKFARIANTHEHITMAN's playlist is really something else

Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 10:19 (thirteen years ago)

try'n'b is an amazing name

activated burgers (electricsound), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 10:23 (thirteen years ago)

ok I lied, I know this is a lot of youtubes but this one's really important

ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIxo4DBgTcE&feature=share&list=UU3IWQ_M-AzO-vlYnpVQGqWQ

Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 10:25 (thirteen years ago)

fuck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIxo4DBgTcE&feature=share&list=UU3IWQ_M-AzO-vlYnpVQGqWQ

Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 10:25 (thirteen years ago)

That allegedly Fab or Rob vocal on the Empire Bizarre track sounds a lot like Farian himself. Here is the most famous Farian vocal for comparison: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7peS5jw1nIU

Three Word Username, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 10:33 (thirteen years ago)

well that's not even the one I meant to post but it's crucial too

don't sleep on the Milli-style dance break in this one. or on anything else in this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwPVKSZ1iFk

Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 10:53 (thirteen years ago)


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