― chris (chris), Thursday, 3 June 2004 09:55 (twenty years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 3 June 2004 10:01 (twenty years ago) link
Sorry if you've already seen this.
― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 3 June 2004 10:09 (twenty years ago) link
petridish reviewing the four eno reissues:"Throughout pop history bands and artists have insisted on making arty records with no tunes, as opposed to what people want to hear... (introduction drones on for another 500 words, namechecking Kid A, Faust Tapes and Metal Machine Music) ...and there are pop stars who can't play any instruments (crawls on for another 500 words, namechecking Sid Vicious, Bez and Lena Zavaroni before saying that Eno's solo albums aren't worth bothering with because all classical music sounds the same)"
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 3 June 2004 10:26 (twenty years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 3 June 2004 10:27 (twenty years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 3 June 2004 10:45 (twenty years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 3 June 2004 10:46 (twenty years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 3 June 2004 10:50 (twenty years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 3 June 2004 10:52 (twenty years ago) link
Unbelievable comments from this Petridis... it's not music writing, I'm afraid, of any kind I would acknowledge.
One would have thought that these Eno albums would have been good enough on t' tune front - it's great, displaced pop music - for such Luddites, yet clearly he's not listened to them at all. Or is playing up to some sort of image; sounds a rehash of his PJ Harvey 'thoughts'.
― Tom May (Tom May), Thursday, 3 June 2004 12:24 (twenty years ago) link
in reality he'd probably give the grauniad review to someone like adam sweeting to write 100 words of nothing about.
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 3 June 2004 13:43 (twenty years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 3 June 2004 13:45 (twenty years ago) link
Sounds a real waste if they've messed up the remaster of AGW, as it's just about my favourite 'pop-period Eno', mood-wise at least.
― Tom May (Tom May), Thursday, 3 June 2004 17:39 (twenty years ago) link
― Bimble (bimble), Friday, 4 June 2004 05:55 (twenty years ago) link
― Bimble (bimble), Friday, 4 June 2004 06:03 (twenty years ago) link
― John 2, Sunday, 3 April 2005 16:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― latebloomer: AKA Sir Teddy Ruxpin, Former Scientologist (latebloomer), Sunday, 3 April 2005 20:31 (nineteen years ago) link
Some 'ANG' tracks appear in slightly different versions. Some of the tracks are barely distinguishable 'alternate' mixes of pieces from 'Music For Films' volume I, the last few tracks are rough versions of the drones from 'Apollo'. Incredibly annoying liner notes, 43 minutes long.
― milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 4 April 2005 06:19 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0007GFFVG/qid=1112633362/sr=8-1/ref=pd_csp_1/104-0855610-6327942?v=glance&s=music&n=507846
― John 2, Monday, 4 April 2005 15:50 (nineteen years ago) link
$15 new version or $10 used old version?
Or are there some albums that are worth getting the reissues of, and some that are not? Hopefully someone with a keen ear can lend some advice.
― JBC (flamingrev), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 19 May 2005 17:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 19 May 2005 17:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 19 May 2005 17:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 19 May 2005 17:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 19 May 2005 18:00 (nineteen years ago) link
It happens again, later on but on the sound of the tom drum.
So, yeah, Nick and I are talking about the same thing. It's not a full tempo slowdown, it's a hiccup, not unlike accidentally pressing down on a spinning record for a split second, or -- more likely in this case -- a reel-to-reel tape where some splicing tape got caught on something while whirling around.
― donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 19 May 2005 18:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 19 May 2005 18:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― milton parker (Jon L), Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:51 (nineteen years ago) link
These jewel case Eno CDs I imagine are the same remasters? Anyone found them or or the digipaks going cheap anywhere>
― PaulTMA, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 10:13 (fourteen years ago) link
Yup, the jewel case CD's are the same. I managed to grab a couple of them for £7 in Fopp recently. Amazon had the whole bunch for around the same price the last time I checked.
― AnotherDeadHero, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 10:45 (fourteen years ago) link
Go for the jexel cases if you can, the plastic sleeve surround on the digipaks is so tight it's practically impossible to extract thge digipaks without fucking them up slightly.
― double shyamalan (MaresNest), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 13:25 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, thata a fair point. Those plastic sleeve's are murder!
― AnotherDeadHero, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 14:33 (fourteen years ago) link
2017 half-speed LPs? Are they a bunch of hooey or what?
― bodacious ignoramus, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 13:27 (six years ago) link
have not heard them, but...
CONSUMER ALERT!!
Apparently the reissue of Another Green World is messed up. The "Rosalie" line is mysteriously edited out of "Everything Merges With The Night" acc. to some who bought the reissue. I'm not sure this is the case with ALL of them... and I sadly missed this the first time around to listening to the reissues.. and I don't have time to check for myself.
So, um, those of you who HAVE the reissue of AGW, check it and note it, if that's the case. Surely, they are working on rectifying this, one would hope.
― donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, June 2, 2004 7:55 AM (fourteen years ago)
what the fuck, now I gotta check for this stupid mistake
― sleeve, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 14:01 (six years ago) link
They fixed the AGW mistake after the first pressing of the remaster.
I haven't heard the half-speed reissues, but reports vary pretty widely on the Hoffman forums: a lot of people like them, but some have noted dropouts and other defects that didn't used to be there, while faulty copies aren't uncommon (as with seemingly most vinyl releases in recent years).
― eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 14:22 (six years ago) link
Has this half speed stuff not been debunked?
― Duke, Thursday, 14 June 2018 20:59 (six years ago) link
this is one of my favorite steve hoffman forum posts ever: "Half-speed mastering is a two-edged sword. One one edge, for a response of 20-20,000, the cutterhead only has to go up to 10,000, so if there are any nonlinearities in the upper range, they will be greatly reduced. Plus, if you were going to, say, 30,000 Hz (and you can, with both analog masters and vinyl) you'll have that much more "breathing room" up there.
On the other edge of the sword, and this is a pretty sharp edge, you have to apply only half the RIAA curve when cutting the lacquer, and that's not always easy to do. Plus, now your response for 20-20K has to go down to 10 Hz. And to make things even more fun, the response of playback heads is slightly different at 15 IPS than at 30 IPS. That's why, generally, you'll find 15 IPS machines set to NAB, and 30 IPS machines running IEC.
Half-speed, when done well, is very good. It's just not easy, and my kudos to those that can pull it off."
what????
― akm, Thursday, 14 June 2018 21:31 (six years ago) link
wow, good find, that's fascinating to me (I also had no idea what NAB/IEC meant, looked it up and they are EQ standards)
I already have these albums on OG vinyl and the remastered CDs, so I have no stake in this but I'd be wary if I was in the market
― sleeve, Thursday, 14 June 2018 21:36 (six years ago) link
wary of the half speed versions, I mean
― sleeve, Thursday, 14 June 2018 21:37 (six years ago) link
― Duke, Thursday, June 14, 2018 1:59 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
GO FOR IT
― brimstead, Thursday, 14 June 2018 22:01 (six years ago) link
Apparently "Apollo" is being reissued in an expanded edition, with a second disc of music. What's unclear to me is if the second disc is unreleased old material or new music inspired by revisiting the soundtrack.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 May 2019 11:56 (five years ago) link