― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 18:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 18:40 (twenty-one years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 18:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 18:54 (twenty-one years ago) link
I've heard reports that the album's starting to get around a bit.
― M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 19:18 (twenty-one years ago) link
has someone made it up ?
― piscesboy, Sunday, 18 May 2003 15:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
your best bet is to sign up with the weekly e-mail mailing list @ Manchester's electronic music online shop Boomkat: http://www.boomkat.com/
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Sunday, 18 May 2003 16:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Omar (Omar), Sunday, 18 May 2003 18:29 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Sunday, 18 May 2003 18:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Curt (cgould), Sunday, 18 May 2003 19:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Sunday, 18 May 2003 22:48 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Andy K (Andy K), Monday, 19 May 2003 11:43 (twenty-one years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 19 May 2003 11:50 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 19 May 2003 14:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 19 May 2003 14:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 19 May 2003 14:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
what're the sources?
― gaz (gaz), Monday, 19 May 2003 14:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
anyway i love presents but i'm not sure if i love luomo; i haven't heard the new one but it seems sort of wibbly
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 19 May 2003 14:51 (twenty-one years ago) link
― piscesboy, Monday, 19 May 2003 15:19 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ben Williams, Monday, 19 May 2003 15:33 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ben Williams, Monday, 19 May 2003 15:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 19 May 2003 15:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ben Williams, Monday, 19 May 2003 15:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 19 May 2003 15:43 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ben Williams, Monday, 19 May 2003 15:49 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 19 May 2003 15:54 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 19 May 2003 15:55 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ben Williams, Monday, 19 May 2003 15:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Monday, 19 May 2003 17:43 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Clarke B., Monday, 19 May 2003 18:10 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Andy K (Andy K), Monday, 19 May 2003 18:13 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Omar (Omar), Monday, 19 May 2003 18:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Clarke B., Monday, 19 May 2003 18:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Omar (Omar), Monday, 19 May 2003 19:01 (twenty-one years ago) link
― david day (winslow), Monday, 19 May 2003 21:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
― david day (winslow), Monday, 19 May 2003 21:39 (twenty-one years ago) link
In any case my only point w/ stirmonster was that his labelling of the Delay stuff seemed dismissive, lumping it in with the rest of Chain Reaction stable and causing me to wonder what he was hearing in it. I questioned his characterization because I didn't want someone stumbling on this thread who hadn't heard Delay to think that "techno dub" is all there was to it; most of it is beatless. How on earth did I "keep chipping away"? I made one terse post! Then clarified, and invited stirmonster's thoughts, but he never replied.
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Monday, 19 May 2003 23:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
1) I like it more *and* less than the first album, if that makes sense. It's definitely a compromise - he's given up some things in order to do other things eg. the general pattern here is of really propulsive, obviously disco grooves with intermittent stretches of noisy interruptions vs the really quite organic and comparatively mistake-free glitch-house landscapes of Vocalcity. I don't know if the conscious-mistakes really do it for me that much (eg. I'm a bit ambivalent about the new version of "Tessio", which feels more forced than the original) but the propulsiveness is really wonderful in a way that doesn't contradict the beauty of the first album - especially when he just goes for straightforward tearjerker glory on "So You", "Could Be Like This", "What Good" and "Shelter" (which should be the last song on every mixtape ever).
2) It does have a very strong feel of good taste/catwalk fashion/magazine spread refinement to it. I agree with Ben that this ain't necessarily a bad thing - and I like EBTG as well. Actually this in context with Digital Disco (and maybe Coloma and related stuff) is a shift within the broader microhouse scene towards a conscious, dance-oriented version of New Pop. In my head I'm calling this stuff "neuromanticism".
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 00:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
!
That's some kinda genius (like yer post in general). But is the Gibson reference intentional or not? Compare the cover of the album above with:
http://www.fyifrance5.com/gibson1.jpg
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 00:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
The Gibson reference is 'cos I just recently read Neuromancer - although obviously my meanining is different to his (although in some ways the entire microhouse project is about problematising the Wintermute/Neuromancer split, arguing that it is not inevitable but is still necessary, therefore must be approached consciously, or even like it is an uncertain hero-quest). The pun is too good to be wasted on just one meaning though.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 00:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
See, this is what happens when I only have mp3s. ;-)
The pun is too good to be wasted on just one meaning though.
Soytenly. :-)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 00:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 01:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
great album
― geeg, Tuesday, 20 May 2003 15:03 (twenty-one years ago) link
What the hell does William Gibson have to do with Luomo?
problematising the Wintermute/Neuromancer split
EH?
― Michael Dieter, Wednesday, 21 May 2003 03:24 (twenty-one years ago) link
Will the Luomo album sound better than the new Dandy Warhols clip?
Tessio always reminded me of the bass lines of 'Love Action/Don't you want me' Human League with vocals by the Manhattan Transfer. Still a beautiful traxxx.
Will the bomb drop with this album, or will it just be a fart in a bathtub?
― LoveBlob, Wednesday, 21 May 2003 04:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 21 May 2003 04:05 (twenty-one years ago) link
But Electroclash? Why? Just cuz it's retro-80's?
I do like the way it looks like she just woke up, right next to me.
― Michael Dieter, Wednesday, 21 May 2003 05:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
Interestingly, microhouse tends to be rather coy about highlighting the new media implemented. If you want do that whole body/digital (i.e. Wintermute/Case) interface/divide, I wonder whether Donna Haraway is the missing metaphoric link, or at least Sadie Plant.
I just wouldn't say that LUOMO is about 'leaving the meat behind', is all.
But the term is catchy - I gotta admit.
(what's with that hero-quest idea tho?)
― Michael Dieter, Wednesday, 21 May 2003 05:33 (twenty-one years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 21 May 2003 05:40 (twenty-one years ago) link