John Cale S/D

guess he's still on the autotune kick. thought shifty adventures was decent, but i can probably do w/o hearing this one again...

I pretty much hate that rework but it's great to see him still looking fly as fuck

I like this "Close Watch" quite a bit.

in theory i like that cale is doing weird unexpected stuff at this stage in his career rather than just coasting

Video by Abby Portner, who he's been collaborating with lately, they did something together at the Whitney I think and maybe a tour? She's the sister of Avey Tare from Animal Collective, for what that's worth.

hmm, i heard a rumor that cale was collab-ing w/ animal collective some time earlier this year.

John Cale is not on the bacon continuum, don't even consider pursuing that angle
Even when his experiments are kinda goofy or ill-conceived he's still experimenting and he's still alive and super fly too so please.

haha, i'm not sure what the bacon continuum even is ...

lol I love john cale, it was an idle thought that I will happily abandon (although if it turned out he was bill murray people calling him things like "super fly" would be exhibit a)

ugh i only used that word because someone else used it upthread and i was furtively typing on my phone full of horror at john cale being spoken about that way
i have nothing but earnest reverence and there will be no bacon the end!

that rework is pretty pleasant as a new song but it completely loses the haunting feeling that's at the core of the orginal.

If they tour this I'm there

+1

Disagree that this version isn't haunting – they all are, tho I have a special place for the gothic rendition (replete with bizarre military bagpipe coda) on Music For a New Society .

One of the things I love about this song is that Cale seems to have written it very deliberately as some kind of modern standard (did he write it for Sinatra? can't remember), what with the style, the orchpop arrangement and, of course, the Cash quote. And while it was never really embraced that way outside of his own fanbase, the song has become very much a standard for him. This version plays as kind of a high concept remix, with the treated vocals and MPC/Burroughs-style cutups shifting the focus from the sentimentality of the much loved refrain to the bleak fatalism of the verses.

Anyway, I was a fan of Nooky Wood's songs and sound – will be interested in MFANS.

listened to this remake a couple more times and it's kind of growing on me! Caaaaale!!!
i think Cale did say at some point he wrote it w/ sinatra in mind ... i actually can imagine scott walker owning it in the 70s.

The Sinatra thing is mentioned in the liner notes to the island years iirc

Also the first time I heard the new version I heard the processed "never win, never lose" as "heroin, never Lou"

haha
think my fave version of "close watch" is the fragments of a rainy season solo performance ... his vocal there is perfect: "i still hear your voice at night / when i turn out the light / and try to settle down"

The Fragments versions are pretty much my favorite versions of all of those songs.

yeah i was thinking that as i was typing it:
think my fave version of "_________" is the fragments of a rainy season solo performance. that record is unbelievable.

It's the first piece of evidence I use in my argument that people dismiss live albums at their own peril.

Yeah, Fragments versions, in particular, of that song, "Dying on the Vine" and "Cordoba" are the definite ones as far as i'm concerned.

yep

Playing roundhouse & philharmonie de Paris in feb btw but dunno if that's mfans: the tour or just like, a show

this one too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTpiadDuA5o

Having overspent on poorly recorded bootlegs of solo Cale, I was thrilled when Fragments was released in 92. Saw him perform twice in 1988 and 1989, the first with Chris Spedding and the second solo, and was growing a bit desperate for a document of those stripped yet intense versions. "Dying On The Vine" is particularly definitive on this collection.

That ws the first Cale song I ever heard and I still think it's one of his v best. Hearing the original version ws a bit of a shock.

heads up this is on spotify

this?

the thread

pisssssssss

sorry

music for a new society reissue/2016 redux

So I gave this a listen and, while it's an interesting reinterpretation, I don't understand why he felt the need to turn it into an opera. I mean, the original is already quite intense, but here he's added even MORE drama to it all.

So over on the Blackstar thread I posted 'bout how KMUW's "Strange Currencies" ignored the FCC or Public Radio rule somebody mentioned vs. playing more than one track by a given artist per hour, as they celebrated Bo's birthday with an hour of hits & album tracks, then a second hour of guest shots etc (like on Ronson's Slaughter On Tenth Avenue). And right now, for the hell of it apparently, they're following tracks from M:Fans, Songs For Drella and The Matrix Tapes with the Rock N Roll Animal "Sweet Jane". Not all Cale, but not bad. (More from M:Fans coming up.)

Changes Made in the style of Joy Division on M:FANS is p lolz

riyl dark morbid spiritual soundscapes

Thoughtless Kind as Kanye also pretty funny.

Changes Made in the style of Joy Division on M:FANS is p lolz

hahaha the reworking is a blast

which it feels weird to characterize anything about this album as a "blast" but idk he kinda made it fun

haha, yeah, i think i'd call it "fun", too! which is quite a feat, considering these songs.

also "back to the end" is super gorgeous

if I didn't like the "Close Watch" rework will I still find things to like y/n

definitely, every rework is pretty distinct

http://www.stereogum.com/1869163/watch-john-cale-play-the-velvet-underground-nico-with-animal-collective-the-libertines-mark-lanegan/video/

No-thanks

I refuse to listen to anything a member of Animal Collective has contributed to

I feel the same about the Libertines.

agggh no

http://concert.arte.tv/fr/john-cale-and-guests-velvet-underground-nico

(= same thing as before but complete and HD)

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