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But it's not really right call it metal based on like half a second in I Bite Through It

ultros ultros-ghali, Sunday, 15 November 2015 20:59 (ten years ago)

This new album is fantastic. Definitely some higher energy moments here, but it doesn't seem like a huge departure from his previous work, more like a logical next step.

I don't really get a metal vibe either.

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Sunday, 15 November 2015 21:01 (ten years ago)

The NIN comparison makes muuuuuch more sense than any metal comparison. There's a lot of Reznor's aesthetic here, just kind of modernised and webified and hyperrealised

avant-garde, sissy bounce, zombie rave, aquacrunk, warlock, oceangrunge, (imago), Sunday, 15 November 2015 21:06 (ten years ago)

Also, here's this album's 2-hour lo-fi cousin that adventurous listeners might like. File under 'everything' https://liluglymane.bandcamp.com/album/third-side-of-tape

avant-garde, sissy bounce, zombie rave, aquacrunk, warlock, oceangrunge, (imago), Sunday, 15 November 2015 21:12 (ten years ago)

I might listen to that one day. I keep looking at the length and think "ugh, maybe later"

ultros ultros-ghali, Sunday, 15 November 2015 21:21 (ten years ago)

I swear, there's more to the comparison than their juxtaposition on RYM's 2015 rankings lol

Also, I've been listening to it this evening - on side 3A by now - trust me, just when you feel you're flagging there's another amazing bit and you shrug and you're like 'shit ok fine, this stays'

avant-garde, sissy bounce, zombie rave, aquacrunk, warlock, oceangrunge, (imago), Sunday, 15 November 2015 21:23 (ten years ago)

I miss the opm circa 'replica ' days .
This Is his worst.
But generally i feel offended when something sounds, even just a little bit, like NIN.

Nourry, Sunday, 15 November 2015 22:07 (ten years ago)

i greatly appreciate how each record sounds like a complete break from the past while remaining unmistakably 0PN.
but i hope he makes a complete break from this sound... it still only sounds 'interesting' to me, not moving like replica or r plus seven

flappy bird, Sunday, 15 November 2015 22:12 (ten years ago)

I can agree w/ that. Replica was one of those rare records that was conceptually interesting and somewhat difficult but was nonetheless capable of connecting on a strange emotional level. Kinda magic. Don't think he's quite recaptured that balance before or after with the same success.

But these records seem to take some time to get a handle on. R+7 didn't really open up to me until a few months ago.

circa1916, Monday, 16 November 2015 00:25 (ten years ago)

on the fence on this one still. agree with flappy bird - it's still cool and (the dreaded) "interesting" but not quite feeling it as a whole work yet. but maybe that'll come.

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Monday, 16 November 2015 00:57 (ten years ago)

i wish i could find a way to convince yall to like this

yes it's (the dreaded) "interesting", but so is most of his stuff, particularly r plus

the album... has really good riffs

flopson, Monday, 16 November 2015 01:05 (ten years ago)

i'm listening to it again right now, still doesn't grab me until the 2nd half

the late great, Monday, 16 November 2015 01:45 (ten years ago)

ah cmon ezra is so good

flopson, Monday, 16 November 2015 01:51 (ten years ago)

this is his best since returnal. r+7 had fleeting moments of beauty but was kind of bloodless overall.

this album is full of moments like 5 minutes into "mutant standard," which sounds like blasting off in a space shuttle while your life flashes before your eyes.

J. Sam, Monday, 16 November 2015 02:26 (ten years ago)

"ezra" has some k. emerson moments in the best possible way

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 16 November 2015 15:00 (ten years ago)

I find Garden exciting from start to finish and am a little surprised at all the mixed feelings here.

Re: What else sounds like this, you'd never confuse the two but there's a kinship between Delete and Prurient's Frozen Niagara Falls. Like they're both working with the same range of materials, but Prurient stretches them out across the continuum from beautiful to ugly, while Oneohtrix is more interested in the continuum between sublime and ridiculous. Two of my favorite albums this year, at any rate...

fka styx (paul santa cruz), Monday, 16 November 2015 23:08 (ten years ago)

it's pretty singular, yeah. broad sound palette, tidy song structures, and 'lush' bits. thank god for AE_LIVE, though.. people digging on this OPN might be into the recently released, 'official' autechre live recordings. Garden of Delete feels sort of slight, where the AE stuff is just packed with rad sounds. maybe they're not comparable, but there are some similar sounds going on.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 01:32 (ten years ago)

listened to this in the car, dope shit

Rich Homie Quan Poor Homie Quan (m bison), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 03:39 (ten years ago)

I really loved this on first listen, some of the techniques and treatment of sounds are similar to previous records but the song structures + trashy stadium EDM sound palette make for a very very different experience.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 12:10 (ten years ago)

Helps that I read Sherburne's review before listening for the first time and it sounded almost exactly as the article suggested it would.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 12:12 (ten years ago)

I love I Bite Through It but I am just getting into it and then it ends. Years of listening to techno has made me need long tracks.

The rest is still digesting for me.

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 12:17 (ten years ago)

What a distressing sound this is, it sounds like strip lighting, I've fought so long and hard to be away from strip lighting and here it is again

saer, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 13:29 (ten years ago)

:D

avant-garde, sissy bounce, zombie rave, aquacrunk, warlock, oceangrunge, (imago), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 13:36 (ten years ago)

I suspect he may turn out to be a better producer/collaborator than a lead artist - without a vocalist to give the whole thing shape I don't find his music particularly sonically or compositionally interesting. What all the artists Sherburne lists have in common (and I'd stick the Ford + Lopatin and James Ferraro albums in there as well) is this sense that someone's turned on all the lights really brightly. I'm used to electronic music feeling either noctural or sunny, there's a really stark neon glare to all of these artists, with varying degrees of success.

― Matt DC, Sunday, November 9, 2014 7:54 PM (1 year ago)

Matt DC, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 13:49 (ten years ago)

I wrote that about Arca but I think the striplighting thing is very deliberate with a lot of these producers.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 13:50 (ten years ago)

classic post

flopson, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 14:47 (ten years ago)

ok i've been playing this this morning and i'm warming up to it. once the chaos shock wears off, i'm understanding the "rock record"/it has riffs!/opn-album-you-can-thrash-to descriptors and the emotional center is starting to reveal itself. ordered the LP.

circa1916, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 15:12 (ten years ago)

2nd half is good. first half annoys teh fuck out of me

Ludo, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 15:36 (ten years ago)

conceptually interesting and somewhat difficult but was nonetheless capable of connecting on a strange emotional level. Kinda magic.

thank you, people on my fb talking about him like he's just some kinda shock jock and it makes me feel like i'm in crazytown

0 / 0 (lukas), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 17:21 (ten years ago)

increasingly convinced of this record's brilliance. the naysaying only makes it stronger

avant-garde, sissy bounce, zombie rave, aquacrunk, warlock, oceangrunge, (imago), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 17:30 (ten years ago)

https://thump.vice.com/en_ca/article/oneohtrix-point-never-told-us-the-story-behind-every-single-track-on-garden-of-delete

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 18:41 (ten years ago)

absolutely <3 this album

I do kinda wish it got even more metal but then... I guess it would just be a venetian snares album or something?

speaking of which, is there something like the chaotic industrial parts of "sticky drama" that lasts more than 30secs and is just as cool?

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Wednesday, 18 November 2015 05:11 (ten years ago)

the naysaying only makes it stronger

watch say nay

the late great, Wednesday, 18 November 2015 05:12 (ten years ago)

more like watch me say nay

the late great, Wednesday, 18 November 2015 05:12 (ten years ago)

speaking of which, is there something like the chaotic industrial parts of "sticky drama" that lasts more than 30secs and is just as cool?

― (⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Wednesday, November 18, 2015 5:11 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i'm about to make a heavily, heavily qualified recommendation

but the song 'blackjazz deathtrance' by norwegian jazz-techno-metal outfit 'shining' kind of fits the bill

the qualification is that it is garish and horrible :D but it's also kind of amazing. also the really good bit doesn't kick in until near the end

anyway i think the 0pn song is better and handles the chaotic industrial thing better. will continue to try and think of examples

avant-garde, sissy bounce, zombie rave, aquacrunk, warlock, oceangrunge, (imago), Wednesday, 18 November 2015 11:42 (ten years ago)

games still the best thing he's done

hot doug stamper (||||||||), Wednesday, 18 November 2015 18:40 (ten years ago)

that shining track is cool but doesn't scratch the same itch for me. I feel like there's probably some breakcore album that would... but finding it would require listening to tons of breakcore :-/

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Wednesday, 18 November 2015 19:31 (ten years ago)

there's probably an autechre song

avant-garde, sissy bounce, zombie rave, aquacrunk, warlock, oceangrunge, (imago), Wednesday, 18 November 2015 20:36 (ten years ago)

this album is a work of genius

Treeship, Sunday, 22 November 2015 23:06 (ten years ago)

saw him live two nights ago and there was way more distortion and the whole thing was super loud. when he talked to the audience he would still use the filter that rendered what he said indecipherable and it was a pretty funny gag.

Treeship, Sunday, 22 November 2015 23:09 (ten years ago)

My ears were definitely ringing afterwards. There's a surprising amount of bass engineered into his later work as well.

MikoMcha, Sunday, 22 November 2015 23:14 (ten years ago)

he's playing at a pretty small club here in march - 300 capacity - i don't know if he's announced a full spring tour yet, but i'm curious if the idea is to play at mostly "rock"/"punk" type venues as part of the whole G.O.D. project

flappy bird, Monday, 23 November 2015 18:10 (ten years ago)

three months pass...

seeing him tonight, can't wait - hope it's not just songs from G.O.D.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 15 March 2016 18:12 (ten years ago)

i'll be there too. i can see GoD stuff being really great live. psyched for whichever way he takes it tbh.

circa1916, Tuesday, 15 March 2016 20:10 (ten years ago)

he's playing Thursday in NYC. what are his live shows like? does he have backup dancers or anything like that?

larry appleton, Tuesday, 15 March 2016 20:16 (ten years ago)

Totes. The choreography between Lopatin and his backup dancers is really some next level shit.

Position Position, Tuesday, 15 March 2016 20:48 (ten years ago)

position position is lying

Treeship, Tuesday, 15 March 2016 20:48 (ten years ago)

i will be there thursday too btw.

at his shows, there is a light component, but mostly it's just him up there pressing buttons and turning knobs and singing.

Treeship, Tuesday, 15 March 2016 20:49 (ten years ago)

saw him live two nights ago and there was way more distortion and the whole thing was super loud. when he talked to the audience he would still use the filter that rendered what he said indecipherable and it was a pretty funny gag.

― Treeship, Sunday, November 22, 2015 6:09 PM (3 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Treeship, Tuesday, 15 March 2016 20:50 (ten years ago)

position position is lying

― Treeship, Tuesday, March 15, 2016 8:48 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah. i just thought the imagery was funny, art rock show with william hung-style backup dancers.

larry appleton, Tuesday, 15 March 2016 20:54 (ten years ago)


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