streaming seems like such a larger part of the marketplace than when 21 came out also, it's very easy to imagine 25 to be in some ways as successful as 21 while not approaching those sales numbers (which no other album in that span has really approached anyway)(i could be wrong there and if i am i'm just gonna guess that i forgot about frozen)
― balls, Sunday, 8 November 2015 04:39 (eight years ago) link
yeah i mean...everybody could sour on "Hello" in a couple weeks and hate every other song, and it would still very likely end up being the 2nd-highest selling album of the decade (after 21) just off of preorders and Christmas gifts. streaming has definitely cut into sales now, although it's hard to tell right now whether Billboard's 'album-equivalent units' will end up being the number people refer to by default in the future.
― some dude, Sunday, 8 November 2015 05:38 (eight years ago) link
Kind of wondering if Ashanti's Chapter 2 counts as this
― i;m the worst poster e9er (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 2 March 2016 21:12 (eight years ago) link
Meh, on 2nd thought, Concrete Rose did almost as well; I just dont think I can remember any solo Ashanti songs tbh
― i;m the worst poster e9er (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 2 March 2016 21:20 (eight years ago) link
views from the six
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 13 May 2016 17:10 (eight years ago) link
god I hope so
― Οὖτις, Friday, 13 May 2016 17:11 (eight years ago) link
so otm
― flappy bird, Friday, 13 May 2016 17:14 (eight years ago) link
don't think so im afraid
― the unbearable jimmy smits (jim in glasgow), Friday, 13 May 2016 17:23 (eight years ago) link
i literally heard some 20 year olds raving about it/him this morning as i bought coffee
― the unbearable jimmy smits (jim in glasgow), Friday, 13 May 2016 17:24 (eight years ago) link
and that anecdote can clearly be extrapolated to all 20 year olds everywhere writ large
So "Hotline Bling" is "You Could Be Mine" to Views' Use Your Illusion.
― Yung Chella (Eazy), Friday, 13 May 2016 17:32 (eight years ago) link
no, "Hotline Bling" is definitely his signature song...
― flappy bird, Friday, 13 May 2016 17:36 (eight years ago) link
yeah it has probably supplanted "The Motto" or whatever as the centerpiece of the Drake segment of I Love The 2010s
― a goon shaped tool (some dude), Friday, 13 May 2016 17:55 (eight years ago) link
does it really count as a part of the album though. it's tacked on at the end & existed for a full year prior right
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 13 May 2016 18:32 (eight years ago) link
yea it def doesn't. it's a bonus track. views is definitely his new jersey
― flappy bird, Friday, 13 May 2016 18:48 (eight years ago) link
Probably can add Life of Pablo to this
― nazi pugs fuck off (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 13 May 2016 18:49 (eight years ago) link
^what i was thinking
― dc, Friday, 13 May 2016 18:51 (eight years ago) link
idk i think a lot of people are stanning for Pablo as AOTY
― flappy bird, Friday, 13 May 2016 18:53 (eight years ago) link
MBDTF was already kanye's new jersey, notwithstanding the brief uptick that was the first half of yeezus
― cher guevara (lex pretend), Friday, 13 May 2016 18:54 (eight years ago) link
except that like everyone under the age of 22 thinks MBDTF is one of the greatest albums of all time (wtf right??)
― flappy bird, Friday, 13 May 2016 18:55 (eight years ago) link
one problem (of many) with the "every huge artist has a New Jersey" theory is that some artists are taken more seriously after their commercial peak than Bon fucking Jovi
― a goon shaped tool (some dude), Friday, 13 May 2016 20:48 (eight years ago) link
I don't trust myself on predicting Drake decline anymore, figured NWTS was gonna be the cultural high-water mark
― nova, Friday, 13 May 2016 21:07 (eight years ago) link
― flappy bird, Friday, May 13, 2016 2:53 PM
he's like Elvis Costello in the '80s: lots of people will think a new album is his latest masterpiece.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 May 2016 21:09 (eight years ago) link
And even New Jersey did not immediately present itself as a New Jersey.
― Yung Chella (Eazy), Friday, 13 May 2016 21:14 (eight years ago) link
kanye breaks the mold but drake i think fits very comfortably into it, like lady gaga
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 13 May 2016 21:35 (eight years ago) link
yeah called it for views from the 6, I would argue that for Kanye it was Twisted Fantasy
― Van Horn Street, Friday, 13 May 2016 22:43 (eight years ago) link
While it's true that for people less than 25 years old MBDTF is the preferred album, they don't care about singles.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 May 2016 22:49 (eight years ago) link
Does anyone else recall the excellent thread in which we sought various bands' equivalent of Supposed Former Infatuation Junkie? That was a high quality thread.
― living colour me badd english beat happening (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 13 May 2016 22:51 (eight years ago) link
Geez, it seems (upon searching in earnest) that that was this very thread. Sorry, carry on.
― living colour me badd english beat happening (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 13 May 2016 22:58 (eight years ago) link
wait, what was drake's peak? i could never make it through an entire album.
― scott seward, Friday, 13 May 2016 23:27 (eight years ago) link
Just searched the thread to see if this had come up:
Here's one: Nelly - Sweat/Suit
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― Yung Chella (Eazy), Friday, 13 May 2016 23:30 (eight years ago) link
Lmao some dude sorry my theory doesn't stand up to rigorous scientific analysis
― rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 14 May 2016 00:05 (eight years ago) link
Here's one that doesn't seem to have been mentioned: Stone Temple Pilots' "Purple." It's 6x platinum, and had several hit singles ("Big Empty," "Interstate Love Song," "Vasoline"), but all of the songs most people remember are on "Core" (8x platinum). And then "Tiny Music" was only 2x platinum.
― goodoldneon, Sunday, 15 May 2016 21:42 (eight years ago) link
Those STP songs from Purple are still pretty well-remembered.
― Now I Know How Joan of Arcadia Felt (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 15 May 2016 21:45 (eight years ago) link
more likely to hear those songs on the radio than "wicked garden" at this point imo
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Sunday, 15 May 2016 21:47 (eight years ago) link
Ha, OK, maybe *I* just don't remember them as well!
― goodoldneon, Sunday, 15 May 2016 21:48 (eight years ago) link
yeah those songs got/get massive airplay
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 15 May 2016 21:52 (eight years ago) link
Interstate is probably their most beloved song
― Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Sunday, 15 May 2016 23:03 (eight years ago) link
yeah Interstate is in some football commercial/bumper. their New Jersey is def Tiny Music.
― flappy bird, Sunday, 15 May 2016 23:18 (eight years ago) link
not sure Tiny Music qualifies as an "event," though. they just had a series of reasonably-performing albums with diminishing returns from their big breakthrough.
― sisterhood of the baggering vance (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 15 May 2016 23:35 (eight years ago) link
Only Around the World in a Day is mentioned upthread vis à vis Prince, but surely Batman is his real New Jersey
― Josefa, Monday, 16 May 2016 01:10 (eight years ago) link
no way, diamonds and pearls went double platinum and two top-five hits
― intheblanks, Monday, 16 May 2016 02:03 (eight years ago) link
also i don't think prince had a new jersey, obviously he had a decline, but i can't pinpoint one record that replicated the commercial success of the previous one by hollowly serving up more of the same.
― intheblanks, Monday, 16 May 2016 02:05 (eight years ago) link
On the grander scale of things, Love Symbol is his New Jersey - but only if you take the singles.
I think a lot of people (including me) would argue that the album tracks on LS are better than D&P, but IMO D&P's hits are more memorable. D&P was a commercial comeback in itself.
Prince was never really the BIG DEAL that he was after 1992/93 (for obviously different reasons). You could argue that there were mini-New Jerseys before (and maybe after).
― Master of Treacle, Monday, 16 May 2016 02:16 (eight years ago) link
Around the World in a Day to me is a classic daring "follow up a massive hit with something that doesn't sound anything like it" album, not at all a New Jersey. More like a Tusk, only not as good.
― Little Red Chevette (Lee626), Monday, 16 May 2016 09:09 (eight years ago) link
yeah agreed, the 60s psychedelia (as portrayed on the cover and the raspberry beret video) was very purposefully out of step with what was going on in pop and his previous image
― rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 16 May 2016 13:49 (eight years ago) link
xposts to scott: take care is drake's good album
― niels, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 10:15 (eight years ago) link
just spent 90 minutes re-reading this thread (for the 3rd time, no less) rather than doing work I should be doing.
every time I discover something new to love here.
tonight it was: JovCorp
― alpine static, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 06:45 (eight years ago) link
― rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, May 13, 2016 8:05 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
my beef is not w/ the theory itself to be clear, you gave the board a beautiful dangerous gift with this idea
― some dude, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 14:43 (eight years ago) link
i should quantum leap to stop myself
― rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 June 2016 20:35 (eight years ago) link