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― a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 19:47 (eight years ago) link
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i never said chicago didn't move the needle, but of course that's how it sounds to you if i say that maybe rick ross taking off his shirt in a video doesn't have anything to do w/ chief keef
― some dude, Wednesday, November 4, 2015 1:44 PM (49 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
...the video that is an explicit callback to the 'i dont like' video ... ok
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 20:34 (eight years ago) link
we can't have this conversation again
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 4 November 2015 20:41 (eight years ago) link
anyway on topic i dont think there's anything wrong with people liking young thug & future and listening to them a lot
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 20:42 (eight years ago) link
That could've been option number 3.
― rap is dad (it's a boy!), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 20:53 (eight years ago) link
I would vote for that.
― rap is dad (it's a boy!), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 21:07 (eight years ago) link
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, November 4, 2015 3:34 PM (42 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
how!?
― some dude, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 21:17 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUoHkql-Wsk
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 21:28 (eight years ago) link
https://bigtonysfantasyleague.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/rick-ross-hold-me-back04.jpghttp://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/1365477267_2_svowi.gif
they *literally* do the dance from 'dont like' in the video some dude
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 22:10 (eight years ago) link
ross bit lil reese's 'beef' flow for his song on jay z's album and talked about doing 'the money dance' the next summer how can you *possibly* find this farfetched?
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 22:11 (eight years ago) link
lol ross is even wearing the same belt in those screen caps
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 22:13 (eight years ago) link
This is not a scientific answer to the question, but anecdotally I've heard Thug blaring out of cars in two different cities today, vs zero for Future.
― something totally new, it’s the AOR of the twenty first century (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 5 November 2015 01:57 (eight years ago) link
interesting. i hear a lot of Future in the wild but Thug's mainstream presence has been a little muted this year, all he's had on the radio is the 3rd verse on a Rae Sremmurd single, vs. last year when there were 3-4 pretty huge songs where Young Thug was the only performer or did the hook and first verse.
― some dude, Thursday, 5 November 2015 02:35 (eight years ago) link
i'm not suggest Rick Ross has never heard or been influenced by Chicago rap, i'm just suggesting that searching for vague signs of influence in a video shot outside in New Orleans projects, full of the tropes of a million NOLA rap videos, is funny.
― some dude, Thursday, 5 November 2015 02:36 (eight years ago) link
and im suggesting there was no 'searching' involved, it was immediately obvious that this was what he was doing & the new orleans thing—almost a decade after the last time someone shot a noteworthy video in NO projects—was a very obvious attempt to avoid being seen as biting
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 5 November 2015 02:45 (eight years ago) link
i still hear future out of cars all the time of course, young thug i've started to hear more of lately
so rick ross shot his video in new orleans just to throw people off the scent of his true influence which is obviously chicago?
― based grandpa (noz), Thursday, 5 November 2015 04:50 (eight years ago) link
I'm not inside his head? But it doesn't seem remotely farfetched, vs shirtless crew videos where everyone does the shawty lo dance weren't exactly common pre idl. I mean he was on keef's record it was the biggest story this year I don't get why this seems like such a long shot to either of you other than trolling
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 5 November 2015 09:04 (eight years ago) link
It's also just what big artists do to create popular records, flip underground ideas on a main stage, isn't this the same as drake biting herb Louie and Gucci flows? This happens all the time!
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 5 November 2015 09:06 (eight years ago) link
I listened to Barter 6 again this morning and while it's got it's moments, yep it's definitely not what I want from YT.
― canoon fooder (dog latin), Thursday, 5 November 2015 10:32 (eight years ago) link
Thug's mainstream presence has been a little muted this year, all he's had on the radio is the 3rd verse on a Rae Sremmurd single, vs. last year when there were 3-4 pretty huge songs
Hadn't stopped to think about this but this is surprising. Barter 6 was deliberately singles-adverse, but you'd have thought at least a few of the mixtape tracks or other features would have hit
― Evan R, Thursday, 5 November 2015 14:42 (eight years ago) link
what about good times? i hear that on urban radio all the time
― marcos, Thursday, 5 November 2015 14:59 (eight years ago) link
i heard it on one of the local rap stations once or twice (and it appeared at one point that 300 was pushing it as an advance single for Hitunes), but it never got on the airplay charts.
― some dude, Thursday, 5 November 2015 15:05 (eight years ago) link
Yeah that song hasn't gotten much airplay here either, which doesn't surprise me as it doesn't sound like a hit IMO
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 5 November 2015 18:26 (eight years ago) link
ok yea it's actually been on my local pirate radio that does a lot of rap/dancehall/rnb and somewhat less commercial stuff (though like hotline bling is still played every hour), it's not boston's hot 97 for instance though, i haven't heard it on boston's more commercial urban stations
― marcos, Thursday, 5 November 2015 18:46 (eight years ago) link
it sounds better in a rap radio context than i expected it to tbh, it wouldn't have shocked me if it did happen to take off
― some dude, Thursday, 5 November 2015 19:02 (eight years ago) link
well 102.7 jamz in north carolina was playing it & they break a lot of records these days
so its possible
i do agree that in certain contexts it works
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 5 November 2015 21:58 (eight years ago) link
i like popcaan's parts a lot
― marcos, Thursday, 5 November 2015 22:05 (eight years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Sunday, 8 November 2015 00:01 (eight years ago) link
Jamie xx is a little corny imo and that feels very apparent when I hear good times despite popcaan's and yt's parts , overall though I dig the song
― marcos, Sunday, 8 November 2015 01:11 (eight years ago) link
love thugs verse on good times but at some point towards the end of the song various parts of it start looping around unnaturally and it all suddenly strikes me as terribly corny and british
― tpp, Sunday, 8 November 2015 18:08 (eight years ago) link
still haven't heard slime 2 but i spent the week listening to slime 1 and i update my ordering
barter 6 > slime season
barter 6 is underwhelming at first (first and last song aside) but i think the flows and hooks on that album are really genius if you can get accustomed to the more subdued vibe of the music overall
― flopson, Sunday, 8 November 2015 23:46 (eight years ago) link
i really really like the last song on slime season 1
― flopson, Sunday, 8 November 2015 23:47 (eight years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Monday, 9 November 2015 00:01 (eight years ago) link
daaaaaaaaaaamn thugger by a nose
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 9 November 2015 00:01 (eight years ago) link
Thought fewtch would run this tbf
― I know when that Ott line zings (Spottie), Monday, 9 November 2015 00:24 (eight years ago) link
me too
― lag∞n, Monday, 9 November 2015 02:11 (eight years ago) link
Thugger has more indie fuxx appeal obv
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 9 November 2015 18:54 (eight years ago) link
These guys really are the 2015 Andre and big boi lol
i think i forgot to vote & would have voted future, oops
― lex pretend, Monday, 9 November 2015 19:00 (eight years ago) link
i agree w d-40's first assertion there but would like him to expand on both
Future had max indie fuxx appeal circa Pluto. I should know
― Number None, Monday, 9 November 2015 19:03 (eight years ago) link
WELP metro boomin went on a twitter rant about how rappers are dropping constant mixtapes to try and be like future and young thug took it personally, so this thread is now a bit more relevant
― Viva la Wu Tang or Meth and All His Friends (some dude), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 12:29 (eight years ago) link
wait neither of them are anything like the first rappers to release a constant stream of material
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 10 November 2015 12:32 (eight years ago) link
yeah it's kind of a specious argument to begin with. metro boomin was all "I KNOW about wayne and gucci you guys, but this is different" but it still didn't really come off well. even before YT said anything, my reaction was 'either he's talking about ATL no-names i haven't heard of, or he's talking about young thug, which is weird because they work together.'
― Viva la Wu Tang or Meth and All His Friends (some dude), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 12:35 (eight years ago) link
metro boomin want no more
― flopson, Tuesday, 10 November 2015 15:01 (eight years ago) link
metro boomin wants smores
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 10 November 2015 16:04 (eight years ago) link
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, November 9, 2015 1:54 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink\
this is ... not a very good post
― marcos, Tuesday, 10 November 2015 16:36 (eight years ago) link
i mean ok atlanta rappers who are critically esteemed, sure i guess?
― marcos, Tuesday, 10 November 2015 16:41 (eight years ago) link