should be an all-johanna bootleg comp called versions of johanna.
― playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Monday, 2 November 2015 19:07 (eight years ago) link
"cutting edge" version does come at the bottom of this partic heap imo:
mona LISA must have had the highway blues, YOU CAN TELL BY HER SMILE < BUT mona LIsa must'vehadthehighway BLUES you can TELL by the WAY she SMILES < buuuuut mona LIsa MUST'vehad the HIGHwayblues, YOUCANTELLTHATBYTHEWAYSHESMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILES
― playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Monday, 2 November 2015 19:11 (eight years ago) link
xp ha i actually did that a while ago -- though i called it Freeze Out ...think this latest version of VofJ is the loud/fast version! i mean, it couldn't be any faster, i don't think. the one on no direction home is kinda stately...
― tylerw, Monday, 2 November 2015 19:12 (eight years ago) link
yeah yr prob right. just punchier.
― playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Monday, 2 November 2015 19:14 (eight years ago) link
I'm pretty into this so far....for me, Dylan bootleg series entries generally fall into 3 categories:
1) official release of some legendary shit (Live 66, Basement Tapes Complete)
2) ones that attempt to redefine your perception of an era (Another Self-Portrait, Rolling Thunder, Tell-Tale Signs)
3) Catnip for hardcore Dylan dorks
This is squarely in category 3 (it's not like this era is exactly in need of critical reappraisal), but it's pretty fun for me
I think my 2 dream Bootlegs at this point are:
1) Christian era outtakes/live/etc a la Another Self-Portrait/Tell-Tale Signs
2) A 3-CD version of Blood on the Tracks that breaks the album down into 2 different version - the NYC version and the Minneapolis version, then a 3rd CD of outtakes
― Comme Si, Kamasi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 2 November 2015 19:14 (eight years ago) link
4) A compilation of great never ending tour live material with great sound
― niels, Monday, 2 November 2015 19:16 (eight years ago) link
Lol my count's terrible
xxp luckily for you I think both of those will probably happen in the next decade
― sleeve, Monday, 2 November 2015 19:17 (eight years ago) link
4) A compilation of great never ending tour live material with great soundthis would be great, but i'd probably prefer like a dick's/dave's picks kinda approach w/ this stuff, with full shows, rather than a comp? i don't know, i'd take anything. i love the neverending tour.
― tylerw, Monday, 2 November 2015 19:19 (eight years ago) link
do you know if they've made a habit of recording it (i mean Dylan's actual crew in a professional manner not just tapers)?
― Comme Si, Kamasi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 2 November 2015 19:21 (eight years ago) link
Full shows would be great too, and probably more in the spirit of the neverending community
Really hope someone's been taping good - but iirc judging from audio quality on live takes from tell tale signs maybe not
― niels, Monday, 2 November 2015 19:31 (eight years ago) link
some shows sound like they might be professionally recorded---maybe not soundboard, but maybe by a professional? Like Pete Cosey mentioned to an interviewer that he was in the habit of recording while onstage with Miles (kept a box of tapes under his bed, listened when he felt like it).
― dow, Monday, 2 November 2015 19:34 (eight years ago) link
After this sampler, I wanna hear a fast-ass "Sad-Eyed Lady Of Thee Lowlands."
― dow, Monday, 2 November 2015 19:36 (eight years ago) link
Surprised there hasn't been talk of a live '65-'66 box.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 2 November 2015 19:41 (eight years ago) link
OK wow this double time boogie Visions of Johanna
― Comme Si, Kamasi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 2 November 2015 19:41 (eight years ago) link
you know what this reminds me of a bit? Jason & the Scorchers' cover of "Absolutely Sweet Marie"
― Comme Si, Kamasi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 2 November 2015 19:43 (eight years ago) link
Surprised there hasn't been talk of a live '65-'66 box.wouldn't be tooooo surprised if this came out next year? complete newport set, hollywood bowl, the rumored carnegie hall tape, and various euro 66...
― tylerw, Monday, 2 November 2015 19:44 (eight years ago) link
I don't think I ever realized Like a Rolling Stone was in 3/4 until hearing this rehearsal take. Is the released version in 4/4? Now I can't remember....
― Darin, Monday, 2 November 2015 19:56 (eight years ago) link
it switches up to 4/4 at some point
― tylerw, Monday, 2 November 2015 19:59 (eight years ago) link
Released version 4/4
― Memes of the Pwn Age (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 November 2015 20:03 (eight years ago) link
samples of all the six disc tunes here: http://www.bobdylan.com/us/music/bootleg-series-vol-12-cutting-edge-1965-1966-deluxe-edition
― tylerw, Monday, 2 November 2015 20:51 (eight years ago) link
is it just me or does the cover art look very amateurish? maybe they're mimicing unauthorized boots
http://static.stereogum.com/uploads/2015/10/150924_boot12_cover-575x560-575x5601-575x560.jpg
― niels, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 09:22 (eight years ago) link
Ah
― Memes of the Pwn Age (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 09:34 (eight years ago) link
See what you're getting at
― Memes of the Pwn Age (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 09:41 (eight years ago) link
http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-arts-and-culture/music/194509/a-j-weberman?utm_source=tabletmagazinelist&utm_campaign=fe29e8a762-Sunday_November_1_201510_30_2015&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_c308bf8edb-fe29e8a762-207197409
Weird article about wacky guy A. J. Weberman, who would go through Bob Dylan's trash
A conversation with the noted garbologist about Bob Dylan, John Lennon, Meir Kahane, being a drug dealer, and what’s wrong with NY today
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 16:54 (eight years ago) link
you can never get at the good garbage anymore
not lie in the old days
― j., Tuesday, 3 November 2015 17:16 (eight years ago) link
great picture of a very, very strung out dylan
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 20:06 (eight years ago) link
take 1 of just like a woman here: http://www.vulture.com/2015/11/hear-alternate-version-of-bob-dylans-just-like-a-woman.html#
― tylerw, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 20:14 (eight years ago) link
I believe there was an incident of fisticuffs between the two (xpost)
― Memes of the Pwn Age (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 20:22 (eight years ago) link
i have thrown dumbs many a bime in my time, right on this thread in fact
― wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 20:31 (eight years ago) link
There was a bootleg consisting of Dylan and U-Don't-AJ-Weberman screaming at each other on the phone (or that's the way it was billed: somebody was screaming at somebody, apparently, although I never heard it). Also supposedly, AJ put all of Dylan's lyrics into a computer, which deduced that they were all about heroin.
― dow, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 20:33 (eight years ago) link
duh?
AJ put all of Dylan's lyrics into a computer, which deduced that they were all about heroin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwh1INne97Q
― wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 20:34 (eight years ago) link
the weberman thing is kind of interesting as an example of an artist actually engaging (briefly) with a truly nutso fan -- almost (not quite haha) like the Beatles having a sitdown w/ Charles Manson.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 20:37 (eight years ago) link
isn't it weird that even in a 30-second commercial, bob dylan cannot do a convincing line reading to save his life?
i don't know what ever gave them the idea that he should or could be in films.
― wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 20:39 (eight years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CPg5bekUsAEYkds.mp4
― tylerw, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 20:40 (eight years ago) link
damn it! https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CPg5bekUsAEYkds.mp4
xpost
that's just one of the ways that neil young takes after his idol. he, too, has negative screen presence.
― wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 20:41 (eight years ago) link
He's good in documentaries and doc/sketchedRenaldo and Clara, although more the Seinfeld-on- Seinfeld-type straight man in the latter.
― dow, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 21:04 (eight years ago) link
As Jerry plays "Jerry," Bob plays "Bob," that is (haven't seen Masked and Anonymous or the one he did with that singer--Fiona?---think it was Hearts on Fire).
― dow, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 21:08 (eight years ago) link
Okay in Pat Garrett and Billy The Kid.
Masked and Anonymous is hilarious
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 21:09 (eight years ago) link
Okay in Pat Garrett and Billy The Kid.― dow, Tuesday, November 3, 2015 3:08 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― dow, Tuesday, November 3, 2015 3:08 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
well, i wouldn't say he's "okay." his weirdo presence kind of works in context, but he's no actor.
i've watched 60 minutes of renaldo and clara, and i strongly suspect that those who say it ought to be on DVD really haven't seen it. it's terrible.
― wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 21:20 (eight years ago) link
bob dylan doesn't really seem comfortable enough on camera to play "bob dylan"
he just looks like a deer in the headlights
"Isis" performance clip is good though, innit?
― Memes of the Pwn Age (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 21:21 (eight years ago) link
maybe my favorite bit: dylan discussing his family, "my mother tried to love me, but I think she was trying to kill me."
― JoeStork, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 21:26 (eight years ago) link
In masked & anonymous. Also highly recommend watching the making-of on the DVD, everyone's so confused.
― JoeStork, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 21:27 (eight years ago) link
Bob Dylan plays a character named Alias, and should have used one. His screen presence makes him look as if he's the victim of a practical jokes involving itching powder.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 21:32 (eight years ago) link
Nah he was okay, considering Peckinpah didn't pay him much attention/no direction and didn't really know who he was, according to Kristofferson. Flitting around, kind of the mischievous-looking Ariel to KK's lurching Caliban. Mainly good in the docs, but I did see all of R and C, and do think it should be on DVD. Description here:http://thefreelancementalists.blogspot.com/2012/02/renaldo-and-clara-can-this-marriage-be.html
― dow, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 22:18 (eight years ago) link
The DVD version of PGABTK that came out a few years ago is supposedly better than the theatrical version I saw, according to the few reviews I saw.
― dow, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 22:20 (eight years ago) link