Bob Dylan: The Bootleg Series

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on this unreleased take i think he says "what are ya some kinda moose - Ain’t there nothin’ you can say?" lol

tylerw, Monday, 2 November 2015 18:59 (ten years ago)

have been avoiding even thinking about this but that ^^^ may have trapped me

playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Monday, 2 November 2015 19:02 (ten years ago)

Dunno if this was its first appearance, but the same take on The Bootleg Series showed up on this (presumably 70s) boot:
https://bfrenzy.s3.amazonaws.com/items/221605627688.jpg

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 2 November 2015 19:02 (ten years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG8Hi-fpyLI

Nothin tu to turn off imo

niels, Monday, 2 November 2015 19:02 (ten years ago)

the over-the-top THUD THUD THUD THUD loud/fast version of johanna from the no direction home soundtrack was my #1 on the dylan poll for some reason. this one is warm+thoughtful in comparison. better prob but less melodramatic + bobvoice-stuffed (like vocal gifs). still the most amazing song.

playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Monday, 2 November 2015 19:05 (ten years ago)

should be an all-johanna bootleg comp called versions of johanna.

playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Monday, 2 November 2015 19:07 (ten years ago)

"cutting edge" version does come at the bottom of this partic heap imo:

mona LISA must have had the highway blues, YOU CAN TELL BY HER SMILE < BUT mona LIsa must'vehadthehighway BLUES you can TELL by the WAY she SMILES < buuuuut mona LIsa MUST'vehad the HIGHwayblues, YOUCANTELLTHATBYTHEWAYSHESMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILES

playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Monday, 2 November 2015 19:11 (ten years ago)

xp ha i actually did that a while ago -- though i called it Freeze Out ...
think this latest version of VofJ is the loud/fast version! i mean, it couldn't be any faster, i don't think. the one on no direction home is kinda stately...

tylerw, Monday, 2 November 2015 19:12 (ten years ago)

yeah yr prob right. just punchier.

playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Monday, 2 November 2015 19:14 (ten years ago)

I'm pretty into this so far....for me, Dylan bootleg series entries generally fall into 3 categories:

1) official release of some legendary shit (Live 66, Basement Tapes Complete)

2) ones that attempt to redefine your perception of an era (Another Self-Portrait, Rolling Thunder, Tell-Tale Signs)

3) Catnip for hardcore Dylan dorks

This is squarely in category 3 (it's not like this era is exactly in need of critical reappraisal), but it's pretty fun for me

I think my 2 dream Bootlegs at this point are:

1) Christian era outtakes/live/etc a la Another Self-Portrait/Tell-Tale Signs

2) A 3-CD version of Blood on the Tracks that breaks the album down into 2 different version - the NYC version and the Minneapolis version, then a 3rd CD of outtakes

Comme Si, Kamasi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 2 November 2015 19:14 (ten years ago)

4) A compilation of great never ending tour live material with great sound

niels, Monday, 2 November 2015 19:16 (ten years ago)

Lol my count's terrible

niels, Monday, 2 November 2015 19:16 (ten years ago)

xxp luckily for you I think both of those will probably happen in the next decade

sleeve, Monday, 2 November 2015 19:17 (ten years ago)

4) A compilation of great never ending tour live material with great sound
this would be great, but i'd probably prefer like a dick's/dave's picks kinda approach w/ this stuff, with full shows, rather than a comp? i don't know, i'd take anything. i love the neverending tour.

tylerw, Monday, 2 November 2015 19:19 (ten years ago)

do you know if they've made a habit of recording it (i mean Dylan's actual crew in a professional manner not just tapers)?

Comme Si, Kamasi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 2 November 2015 19:21 (ten years ago)

Full shows would be great too, and probably more in the spirit of the neverending community

Really hope someone's been taping good - but iirc judging from audio quality on live takes from tell tale signs maybe not

niels, Monday, 2 November 2015 19:31 (ten years ago)

some shows sound like they might be professionally recorded---maybe not soundboard, but maybe by a professional? Like Pete Cosey mentioned to an interviewer that he was in the habit of recording while onstage with Miles (kept a box of tapes under his bed, listened when he felt like it).

dow, Monday, 2 November 2015 19:34 (ten years ago)

After this sampler, I wanna hear a fast-ass "Sad-Eyed Lady Of Thee Lowlands."

dow, Monday, 2 November 2015 19:36 (ten years ago)

Surprised there hasn't been talk of a live '65-'66 box.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 2 November 2015 19:41 (ten years ago)

OK wow this double time boogie Visions of Johanna

Comme Si, Kamasi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 2 November 2015 19:41 (ten years ago)

you know what this reminds me of a bit? Jason & the Scorchers' cover of "Absolutely Sweet Marie"

Comme Si, Kamasi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 2 November 2015 19:43 (ten years ago)

Surprised there hasn't been talk of a live '65-'66 box.
wouldn't be tooooo surprised if this came out next year? complete newport set, hollywood bowl, the rumored carnegie hall tape, and various euro 66...

tylerw, Monday, 2 November 2015 19:44 (ten years ago)

I don't think I ever realized Like a Rolling Stone was in 3/4 until hearing this rehearsal take. Is the released version in 4/4? Now I can't remember....

Darin, Monday, 2 November 2015 19:56 (ten years ago)

it switches up to 4/4 at some point

tylerw, Monday, 2 November 2015 19:59 (ten years ago)

Released version 4/4

Memes of the Pwn Age (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 November 2015 20:03 (ten years ago)

samples of all the six disc tunes here: http://www.bobdylan.com/us/music/bootleg-series-vol-12-cutting-edge-1965-1966-deluxe-edition

tylerw, Monday, 2 November 2015 20:51 (ten years ago)

is it just me or does the cover art look very amateurish? maybe they're mimicing unauthorized boots

http://static.stereogum.com/uploads/2015/10/150924_boot12_cover-575x560-575x5601-575x560.jpg

niels, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 09:22 (ten years ago)

Ah

Memes of the Pwn Age (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 09:34 (ten years ago)

See what you're getting at

Memes of the Pwn Age (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 09:41 (ten years ago)

http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-arts-and-culture/music/194509/a-j-weberman?utm_source=tabletmagazinelist&utm_campaign=fe29e8a762-Sunday_November_1_201510_30_2015&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_c308bf8edb-fe29e8a762-207197409

Weird article about wacky guy A. J. Weberman, who would go through Bob Dylan's trash

A conversation with the noted garbologist about Bob Dylan, John Lennon, Meir Kahane, being a drug dealer, and what’s wrong with NY today

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 16:54 (ten years ago)

you can never get at the good garbage anymore

not lie in the old days

j., Tuesday, 3 November 2015 17:16 (ten years ago)

great picture of a very, very strung out dylan

flappy bird, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 20:06 (ten years ago)

take 1 of just like a woman here: http://www.vulture.com/2015/11/hear-alternate-version-of-bob-dylans-just-like-a-woman.html#

tylerw, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 20:14 (ten years ago)

I believe there was an incident of fisticuffs between the two (xpost)

Memes of the Pwn Age (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 20:22 (ten years ago)

i have thrown dumbs many a bime in my time, right on this thread in fact

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 20:31 (ten years ago)

There was a bootleg consisting of Dylan and U-Don't-AJ-Weberman screaming at each other on the phone (or that's the way it was billed: somebody was screaming at somebody, apparently, although I never heard it). Also supposedly, AJ put all of Dylan's lyrics into a computer, which deduced that they were all about heroin.

dow, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 20:33 (ten years ago)

duh?

dow, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 20:33 (ten years ago)

AJ put all of Dylan's lyrics into a computer, which deduced that they were all about heroin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwh1INne97Q

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 20:34 (ten years ago)

the weberman thing is kind of interesting as an example of an artist actually engaging (briefly) with a truly nutso fan -- almost (not quite haha) like the Beatles having a sitdown w/ Charles Manson.

tylerw, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 20:37 (ten years ago)

isn't it weird that even in a 30-second commercial, bob dylan cannot do a convincing line reading to save his life?

i don't know what ever gave them the idea that he should or could be in films.

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 20:39 (ten years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CPg5bekUsAEYkds.mp4

tylerw, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 20:40 (ten years ago)

damn it!
https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CPg5bekUsAEYkds.mp4

tylerw, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 20:40 (ten years ago)

xpost

that's just one of the ways that neil young takes after his idol. he, too, has negative screen presence.

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 20:41 (ten years ago)

He's good in documentaries and doc/sketchedRenaldo and Clara, although more the Seinfeld-on- Seinfeld-type straight man in the latter.

dow, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 21:04 (ten years ago)

As Jerry plays "Jerry," Bob plays "Bob," that is (haven't seen Masked and Anonymous or the one he did with that singer--Fiona?---think it was Hearts on Fire).

dow, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 21:08 (ten years ago)

Okay in Pat Garrett and Billy The Kid.

dow, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 21:08 (ten years ago)

Masked and Anonymous is hilarious

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 21:09 (ten years ago)

Okay in Pat Garrett and Billy The Kid.

― dow, Tuesday, November 3, 2015 3:08 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well, i wouldn't say he's "okay." his weirdo presence kind of works in context, but he's no actor.

i've watched 60 minutes of renaldo and clara, and i strongly suspect that those who say it ought to be on DVD really haven't seen it. it's terrible.

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 21:20 (ten years ago)

xpost

bob dylan doesn't really seem comfortable enough on camera to play "bob dylan"

he just looks like a deer in the headlights

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 21:20 (ten years ago)

"Isis" performance clip is good though, innit?

Memes of the Pwn Age (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 21:21 (ten years ago)


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