on this unreleased take i think he says "what are ya some kinda moose - Ain’t there nothin’ you can say?" lol
― tylerw, Monday, 2 November 2015 18:59 (ten years ago)
have been avoiding even thinking about this but that ^^^ may have trapped me
― playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Monday, 2 November 2015 19:02 (ten years ago)
Dunno if this was its first appearance, but the same take on The Bootleg Series showed up on this (presumably 70s) boot:https://bfrenzy.s3.amazonaws.com/items/221605627688.jpg
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 2 November 2015 19:02 (ten years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG8Hi-fpyLI
Nothin tu to turn off imo
― niels, Monday, 2 November 2015 19:02 (ten years ago)
the over-the-top THUD THUD THUD THUD loud/fast version of johanna from the no direction home soundtrack was my #1 on the dylan poll for some reason. this one is warm+thoughtful in comparison. better prob but less melodramatic + bobvoice-stuffed (like vocal gifs). still the most amazing song.
― playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Monday, 2 November 2015 19:05 (ten years ago)
should be an all-johanna bootleg comp called versions of johanna.
― playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Monday, 2 November 2015 19:07 (ten years ago)
"cutting edge" version does come at the bottom of this partic heap imo:
mona LISA must have had the highway blues, YOU CAN TELL BY HER SMILE < BUT mona LIsa must'vehadthehighway BLUES you can TELL by the WAY she SMILES < buuuuut mona LIsa MUST'vehad the HIGHwayblues, YOUCANTELLTHATBYTHEWAYSHESMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILES
― playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Monday, 2 November 2015 19:11 (ten years ago)
xp ha i actually did that a while ago -- though i called it Freeze Out ...think this latest version of VofJ is the loud/fast version! i mean, it couldn't be any faster, i don't think. the one on no direction home is kinda stately...
― tylerw, Monday, 2 November 2015 19:12 (ten years ago)
yeah yr prob right. just punchier.
― playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Monday, 2 November 2015 19:14 (ten years ago)
I'm pretty into this so far....for me, Dylan bootleg series entries generally fall into 3 categories:
1) official release of some legendary shit (Live 66, Basement Tapes Complete)
2) ones that attempt to redefine your perception of an era (Another Self-Portrait, Rolling Thunder, Tell-Tale Signs)
3) Catnip for hardcore Dylan dorks
This is squarely in category 3 (it's not like this era is exactly in need of critical reappraisal), but it's pretty fun for me
I think my 2 dream Bootlegs at this point are:
1) Christian era outtakes/live/etc a la Another Self-Portrait/Tell-Tale Signs
2) A 3-CD version of Blood on the Tracks that breaks the album down into 2 different version - the NYC version and the Minneapolis version, then a 3rd CD of outtakes
― Comme Si, Kamasi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 2 November 2015 19:14 (ten years ago)
4) A compilation of great never ending tour live material with great sound
― niels, Monday, 2 November 2015 19:16 (ten years ago)
Lol my count's terrible
xxp luckily for you I think both of those will probably happen in the next decade
― sleeve, Monday, 2 November 2015 19:17 (ten years ago)
4) A compilation of great never ending tour live material with great soundthis would be great, but i'd probably prefer like a dick's/dave's picks kinda approach w/ this stuff, with full shows, rather than a comp? i don't know, i'd take anything. i love the neverending tour.
― tylerw, Monday, 2 November 2015 19:19 (ten years ago)
do you know if they've made a habit of recording it (i mean Dylan's actual crew in a professional manner not just tapers)?
― Comme Si, Kamasi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 2 November 2015 19:21 (ten years ago)
Full shows would be great too, and probably more in the spirit of the neverending community
Really hope someone's been taping good - but iirc judging from audio quality on live takes from tell tale signs maybe not
― niels, Monday, 2 November 2015 19:31 (ten years ago)
some shows sound like they might be professionally recorded---maybe not soundboard, but maybe by a professional? Like Pete Cosey mentioned to an interviewer that he was in the habit of recording while onstage with Miles (kept a box of tapes under his bed, listened when he felt like it).
― dow, Monday, 2 November 2015 19:34 (ten years ago)
After this sampler, I wanna hear a fast-ass "Sad-Eyed Lady Of Thee Lowlands."
― dow, Monday, 2 November 2015 19:36 (ten years ago)
Surprised there hasn't been talk of a live '65-'66 box.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 2 November 2015 19:41 (ten years ago)
OK wow this double time boogie Visions of Johanna
― Comme Si, Kamasi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 2 November 2015 19:41 (ten years ago)
you know what this reminds me of a bit? Jason & the Scorchers' cover of "Absolutely Sweet Marie"
― Comme Si, Kamasi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 2 November 2015 19:43 (ten years ago)
Surprised there hasn't been talk of a live '65-'66 box.wouldn't be tooooo surprised if this came out next year? complete newport set, hollywood bowl, the rumored carnegie hall tape, and various euro 66...
― tylerw, Monday, 2 November 2015 19:44 (ten years ago)
I don't think I ever realized Like a Rolling Stone was in 3/4 until hearing this rehearsal take. Is the released version in 4/4? Now I can't remember....
― Darin, Monday, 2 November 2015 19:56 (ten years ago)
it switches up to 4/4 at some point
― tylerw, Monday, 2 November 2015 19:59 (ten years ago)
Released version 4/4
― Memes of the Pwn Age (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 November 2015 20:03 (ten years ago)
samples of all the six disc tunes here: http://www.bobdylan.com/us/music/bootleg-series-vol-12-cutting-edge-1965-1966-deluxe-edition
― tylerw, Monday, 2 November 2015 20:51 (ten years ago)
is it just me or does the cover art look very amateurish? maybe they're mimicing unauthorized boots
http://static.stereogum.com/uploads/2015/10/150924_boot12_cover-575x560-575x5601-575x560.jpg
― niels, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 09:22 (ten years ago)
Ah
― Memes of the Pwn Age (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 09:34 (ten years ago)
See what you're getting at
― Memes of the Pwn Age (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 09:41 (ten years ago)
http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-arts-and-culture/music/194509/a-j-weberman?utm_source=tabletmagazinelist&utm_campaign=fe29e8a762-Sunday_November_1_201510_30_2015&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_c308bf8edb-fe29e8a762-207197409
Weird article about wacky guy A. J. Weberman, who would go through Bob Dylan's trash
A conversation with the noted garbologist about Bob Dylan, John Lennon, Meir Kahane, being a drug dealer, and what’s wrong with NY today
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 16:54 (ten years ago)
you can never get at the good garbage anymore
not lie in the old days
― j., Tuesday, 3 November 2015 17:16 (ten years ago)
great picture of a very, very strung out dylan
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 20:06 (ten years ago)
take 1 of just like a woman here: http://www.vulture.com/2015/11/hear-alternate-version-of-bob-dylans-just-like-a-woman.html#
― tylerw, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 20:14 (ten years ago)
I believe there was an incident of fisticuffs between the two (xpost)
― Memes of the Pwn Age (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 20:22 (ten years ago)
i have thrown dumbs many a bime in my time, right on this thread in fact
― wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 20:31 (ten years ago)
There was a bootleg consisting of Dylan and U-Don't-AJ-Weberman screaming at each other on the phone (or that's the way it was billed: somebody was screaming at somebody, apparently, although I never heard it). Also supposedly, AJ put all of Dylan's lyrics into a computer, which deduced that they were all about heroin.
― dow, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 20:33 (ten years ago)
duh?
AJ put all of Dylan's lyrics into a computer, which deduced that they were all about heroin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwh1INne97Q
― wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 20:34 (ten years ago)
the weberman thing is kind of interesting as an example of an artist actually engaging (briefly) with a truly nutso fan -- almost (not quite haha) like the Beatles having a sitdown w/ Charles Manson.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 20:37 (ten years ago)
isn't it weird that even in a 30-second commercial, bob dylan cannot do a convincing line reading to save his life?
i don't know what ever gave them the idea that he should or could be in films.
― wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 20:39 (ten years ago)
https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CPg5bekUsAEYkds.mp4
― tylerw, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 20:40 (ten years ago)
damn it! https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CPg5bekUsAEYkds.mp4
xpost
that's just one of the ways that neil young takes after his idol. he, too, has negative screen presence.
― wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 20:41 (ten years ago)
He's good in documentaries and doc/sketchedRenaldo and Clara, although more the Seinfeld-on- Seinfeld-type straight man in the latter.
― dow, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 21:04 (ten years ago)
As Jerry plays "Jerry," Bob plays "Bob," that is (haven't seen Masked and Anonymous or the one he did with that singer--Fiona?---think it was Hearts on Fire).
― dow, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 21:08 (ten years ago)
Okay in Pat Garrett and Billy The Kid.
Masked and Anonymous is hilarious
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 21:09 (ten years ago)
Okay in Pat Garrett and Billy The Kid.― dow, Tuesday, November 3, 2015 3:08 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― dow, Tuesday, November 3, 2015 3:08 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
well, i wouldn't say he's "okay." his weirdo presence kind of works in context, but he's no actor.
i've watched 60 minutes of renaldo and clara, and i strongly suspect that those who say it ought to be on DVD really haven't seen it. it's terrible.
― wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 21:20 (ten years ago)
bob dylan doesn't really seem comfortable enough on camera to play "bob dylan"
he just looks like a deer in the headlights
"Isis" performance clip is good though, innit?
― Memes of the Pwn Age (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 21:21 (ten years ago)