The All-New STYLUS.

poor stylus

I really liked stylus I read it all the time. My favourite piece ever though was one of the last pieces ever written. It was about Lovely Music Ltd.

xpost read the archeology of history by foucault, seriously it is beautiful

"beautiful" not always "truthful", bro.

Warhol undermined ideas of the artist as a mythical creative force and embodied foucault's idea of the author as an intersecting point for ideas and not the genesis of them. Read his essay "what is an author?"

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lol no. i wonder if that even *is* foucault's idea -- i'm familiar with the essay -- it seems fairly, well, basic. and also cover for the fact that warhol was a big ol' thief really, though the idea obviously had a lot going for it. of course it applies to foucault too i guess so it isn't "his" idea lol but shit i guess he got paid for it.

"ideas of the artist as a mythical creative force" is typical po-mo straw-manism isn't it? show me where this idea appears. older i get the more convincing i find it anyway since the best stuff really does seem to be more than bricolage -- there is something going on beyond piecing together. that or the piecing together is finely done, it doesn't really matter. i guess with second-raters like warhol it works...

We've come a long way from Stylus!

I miss Stylus. What's that new post-Stylus project again?

It's a blog that's a bit like that thing in the Guardian last year everyone laughed at.

You know, when they had Julian Cope or whoever handwringing and going 'but the Arcade Fire aren't that good!'

"ideas of the artist as a mythical creative force" is typical po-mo straw-manism isn't it? show me where this idea appears. older i get the more convincing i find it anyway since the best stuff really does seem to be more than bricolage -- there is something going on beyond piecing together. that or the piecing together is finely done, it doesn't really matter. i guess with second-raters like warhol it works...

Strawman my arse, look at Abstract expressionism and almost every scrap of rhetoric that went with it. Look at Barnett Newman in particular and Robert Motherwell.

Beauty = Truth (apt since we're talking about aesthetics)

So much art just looks like what art is supposed to look like and that's what bothers me.

hey guys, I have a question.
I'm interested in reading stuff that argues along the lines of structuralism/post-struc and semiotic problems with those as well as "what came before" or whatever you would call it, regarding the inadequacy of language to describe the sign-user in a meaningful, consistent fashion and whether this is a consequence of language's limited usefulness (instructive, descriptive tool, strictly for passing knowledge about the world) or a consequence of the self being strictly defined by circumstances in a given situation (circumstances that language CAN describe) so is the concept of self useful at all, and if we say it isn't, how do we act, and so forth

because I'm normally not interested but Walker Percy made me think maybe I should read some more about it

visual arts were better when they were comic books approved by the church

(ok not really)

btw,

Maybe I'm jumping the gun in revealing this (and as such, I'll reveal as little as possible), but an ILX regular is working on putting together a website that could perhaps fill this new void.

-- The Reverend, Saturday, October 27, 2007 3:05 PM (2 months ago) Bookmark Link

I'd hardly say that NedsNudes.com is going to fill the same niche as Stylus.

-- Alex in Baltimore, Saturday, October 27, 2007 3:08 PM (2 months ago) Bookmark Link

NedsNudes.com

Walker Percy? Were you reading Signposts In A Strange Land, Tombot?

not gotten to that one yet. I was just finishing up lost in the cosmos and I'm thinking of thanatos or his semiotics one next

i think u shd read wittgenstein tombot. he cuts to the chase.

Beauty = Truth (apt since we're talking about aesthetics)

lol no

Strawman my arse, look at Abstract expressionism and almost every scrap of rhetoric that went with it. Look at Barnett Newman in particular and Robert Motherwell.

yeah i guess with some american boosters of abstract expressionism you get that kind of mystical/mythical artist b.s. -- just as you do with reviews of 'there will be blood', i guess. but that is all just boosterism -- i don't think, say, lawrence alloway's writing on abstract expressionism was like that -- and i don't see the virtue in treating it as a monolithic expression of... everything that predates linguisic structuralism.

Hmmm. Not sure about the Xmas pomo discussion revive.

Starting (and writing shit for) Rocktimists got me feeling a bit nostalgic.

I think we really managed something special with Stylus. With what's going on at DiS maybe we just got out in time, too. I don't know.

I don't really feel like I'm capable of writing for anywhere else. I know I've done a few things for DiS but that's just going through the motions, really. It's not scary enough to mean anything much to me. Though doubtless it means a fuck of a lot to the people now frightened about the state of play.

But anyway, Stylus, many months on, RIP.

is it a given that the domain/server for the Stylus archives are going to be kept up for the forseeable future? ever since the end I've been so paranoid that I need to archie my stuff or make sure it's saved offline and just haven't gotten around to it yet.

I print up hard copies of everything I wrote for web-only publications. Good habit.

will the site archive stay online indefinitely (sorry this may have been confirmed upthread)?

It was confirmed that it'd stay up for a year or so; I'll speak to Todd.

I think we really managed something special with Stylus.

Yeah, you did. I miss reading it (the reviews, the features, the longer critical pieces; all of it). R.I.P.

thirded. this site was #1. RIP.

i can't believe you hacks are STILL selfpromoting this thing

^^^ Funny. But I still miss Stylus. They reviewed country, goddammit!

Haven't found a music site I've enjoyed as much since. I know they were pretty much gone quite some time before it ended, but I also loved the daily podcasts.

Somebody should put together a Playing God blog. That version of Up is a revelation.

i really liked doing the singles jukebox and still go back to read some of my old blurbs. there isn't really anything like it any more, a pity

sorry, what's all this plz?

anyone want to link to some classics? i never read that much at the time (but the stuff that i did was good).

let go

I'm incapable of self-promotion.

I, on the other hand...

“I'll Be Around” – The Spinners
B-side of "How Could I Let You Get Away"

hadn't read the b-side rundown. shame on M. Gill for not even mentioning the GREAT A-side in passing, (although the side order is kind of wtf, I've never even heard "How Could I.." on the radio ever)

haha, took me a few paragraphs to realize you didn't write that stereolab review you linked to, ned.

Alright, fuck it.

did anybody save those old stycasts??? i dont have any idea what happened to mine

All you really need is the last Passantino/O'Reilly joint podcast. That's still on the site.

I've said it before, and probably on this thread, but that piece on Lovely Music Lt. was probably my favourite piece of music writing. Largely because it is such a perfect example of the tone of the piece falling so elegantly into step with the music being written about. The writing is so gentle and moves so deftly between personal reminisces, snippets of interviews and musical descriptions in a way that feels like one of Robert Ashley's operas, small and perfectly formed yet expansive, personal, strange yet familiar and intimate.

here it is by the way

Such a perfect tribute to an amazing label.

haha, took me a few paragraphs to realize you didn't write that stereolab review you linked to, ned.

Respect.

no doubt! it was only when you referred to him in the third person that i caught on.

nothing to be proud in there, soto.

That's still on the site.

where?

Thanks, Moka.

is it a given that the domain/server for the Stylus archives are going to be kept up for the forseeable future? ever since the end I've been so paranoid that I need to archie my stuff or make sure it's saved offline and just haven't gotten around to it yet.

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ha: I finally started archiving my old reviews over the weekend, and then on Sunday night before I was even halfway done suddenly StylusMagazine.com went down. is that it? if so, I guess that's what I get for procrastinating.

faced

I kind of doubt it, since that domain is still used for other purposes, even though the front end of the site is no longer updated.

"other purposes"? be more specific, or at least less ominous, please.

jaymc has a satellite tracking system running off the back end. he knows where you are.

Other purposes = the staff message board is still active.