Husker Du : Classic or Dud, Search and Destroy.

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To be fair, The Minutemen were easier to record. There was no crazy psychedelic guitar distortion and feedback that can be difficult to balance properly with the drums, bass and voice. A cleaner sound with more space, yeah, they sound great!

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 15 October 2015 18:21 (eight years ago) link

Didn't Ethan James record Double Nickel;s and a few others?

MaresNest, Thursday, 15 October 2015 18:27 (eight years ago) link

Ethan James did Double Nickels
Spot did The Punch line and What makes a man, probably a few others

a (waterface), Thursday, 15 October 2015 18:28 (eight years ago) link

The difference between how Huskers records sound & Minutemen records do just goes to show that Huskers made those records to sound the way that they do.

Awesome.

chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 15 October 2015 18:29 (eight years ago) link

Also seems like no one in HD cared how the drums sounded

a (waterface), Thursday, 15 October 2015 18:32 (eight years ago) link

Plus, if you listened to some the records Mould produced for other bands around this time (first Man-Sized Action record for inst) I think he really liked that thin, harsh, trebely sound.

Made To Be Broken, exhibit b

banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 15 October 2015 18:35 (eight years ago) link

Five Story Garage by Man Sized Action is classic

I'm in the minority but I think the Huskers records are awesome because of how they sound, I feel like they wouldn't have that special quality with more conventional "good" production

I love the weird sheet metal buzz sound

Comme Si, Kamasi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 15 October 2015 19:14 (eight years ago) link

"Five Story Garage by Man Sized Action is classic"

Cuz Paulson and Katzmann did it (I think, I don't have it in front of me), Mould did "Claustrophobia", which lives up to title production-wise

chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 15 October 2015 19:23 (eight years ago) link

i'm listening to Zen Arcade on my ipod now through 35 dollar porta pros and in complete honesty it sounds totally exciting and alive to me. Granted you HAVE TO turn the gain up or it sounds shitty

also just FYI:

I WILL
NEVER
FORGET
U

banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 15 October 2015 19:30 (eight years ago) link

new day rising is a little shitty sounding though. But I'd rather hear its soundworld than warehouse's

banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 15 October 2015 19:31 (eight years ago) link

if there's one thing i learned from browsing audio weirdo forums its turn teh fuckin gain up before you decide whether a recording is shitty

banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 15 October 2015 19:32 (eight years ago) link

But I'd rather hear its soundworld than warehouse's

This. Hart's snare on Warehouse sounds like digital wax paper.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 15 October 2015 19:36 (eight years ago) link

Warehouse still makes me mad after all these years on so many levels!

>:[

banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 15 October 2015 19:37 (eight years ago) link

best 'last song on last album by band who can't stand each other anymore' ever, though

banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 15 October 2015 19:37 (eight years ago) link

yeah I don't think Warehouse can be fixed even with a remix/remaster, the problems are in the way it was recorded

sleeve, Thursday, 15 October 2015 19:38 (eight years ago) link

i'm a sap so i'm a sucker for "these important years" ;_;

Comme Si, Kamasi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 15 October 2015 19:40 (eight years ago) link

"It's a double album that's two records too long"

chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 15 October 2015 19:41 (eight years ago) link

serious q: do you think these guys could actually work up the appropriate head of steam to play husker du songs again?

tylerw, Thursday, 15 October 2015 19:42 (eight years ago) link

best 'last song on last album by band who can't stand each other anymore' ever, though

Yeah, for all of Mould's "You'll never have as many songs on an album as me!" Hart had the last best word.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 15 October 2015 19:43 (eight years ago) link

serious q: do you think these guys could actually work up the appropriate head of steam to play husker du songs again?

Yes, if they rehearse for several hours a day, six days a week, for the next year. Otherwise, no way.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 15 October 2015 19:44 (eight years ago) link

I remember liking Warehouse in high school. It was the first thing I heard by them, though. And I never really became a fan - I started going backwards immediately and didn't like Candy Apple Grey very much and hated Flip Your Wig, so I pretty much stopped there. Heard one or two songs from Zen Arcade and New Day Rising eventually, but by then was firmly un-sold. The Mould-related thing I come closest to really loving is Black Sheets of Rain.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 15 October 2015 19:45 (eight years ago) link

Sugar, dude.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 October 2015 19:49 (eight years ago) link

serious q: do you think these guys could actually work up the appropriate head of steam to play husker du songs again?

― tylerw, Thursday, 15 October 2015 19:42 (5 minutes ago) Permalink

I saw Mould do an (almost) all Huskers set in the Entry (!) last yr with Narducy and Wurster it was awesome. Norton still plays around town, Hart plays, but not drums. So I guess

a: maybe?

chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 15 October 2015 19:50 (eight years ago) link

yeah i guess it's mainly hart that i was wondering about... i mean, what he was playing is pretty involved (and i'd imagine physically demanding). not playing all that much drums over the years, i feel like it'd be a challenge to get back to it.

tylerw, Thursday, 15 October 2015 19:52 (eight years ago) link

His voice still sounds great, I saw him play drums with Watt (and Norton) a few yrs ago and I was the first I had seen Grant play drums maybe ever (I think he played drums in a later Nova Mob line-up) and it was fine, but it was like cluster-fuck jam on "Little Johnny Jewel"

chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 15 October 2015 19:59 (eight years ago) link

ha that sounds good -- i really don't know, maybe he could pull it off!

tylerw, Thursday, 15 October 2015 20:01 (eight years ago) link

Mould and Hart on duelling guitars, Dave Grohl on drums

めんどくさかった (Matt #2), Thursday, 15 October 2015 20:05 (eight years ago) link

XXpost-if they can some how clear all the other reuniting hurdles, why not?

chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 15 October 2015 20:05 (eight years ago) link

if husker du can reunite, anything is possible

tylerw, Thursday, 15 October 2015 20:10 (eight years ago) link

Archives Vol 2 could come out!

chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 15 October 2015 20:14 (eight years ago) link

if husker du throbbing gristle can reunite, anything is possible

sleeve, Thursday, 15 October 2015 20:14 (eight years ago) link

they should title their reunion album hell freezes over and release a 7" cover of GET OVER IT

banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 15 October 2015 20:18 (eight years ago) link

haha
still think this is going to be like galaxie 500, who have been good about reissues/DVDs/Merch/books/etc without ever actually reuniting

tylerw, Thursday, 15 October 2015 20:19 (eight years ago) link

You forget how long those albums were out of print til the Ryko box, for no good reason.

Archives Vol 2 could come out!

Now you're talking crazy.

Anyway, Husker Du is, along with the Smiths, one of the few (only?) bands whose members are all alive that will never reunite. Mould and Hart played that Soul Asylum benefit years ago (separately), and apparently the bad blood ran deep.

Anyone seen the Grant Hart doc?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 October 2015 20:34 (eight years ago) link

Everybody forgets minor threat, that's how insane it would be if they reunited

da croupier, Thursday, 15 October 2015 20:37 (eight years ago) link

and the Jam. Can't see them ever getting back together.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 15 October 2015 20:38 (eight years ago) link

i know they weren't bro-ing down at that soul asylum benefit, but mould/hart did actually play a few songs together, so the blood can't have been *that* bad.

tylerw, Thursday, 15 October 2015 20:38 (eight years ago) link

I think Talking Heads are even less likely to reunite than Norton/Hart. Those 2 may have some bad blood, but they respect each other-they both feel than Norton never pulled his weight in Husker Du

beamish13, Thursday, 15 October 2015 20:42 (eight years ago) link

Mould/Hart do have a mutual respect for one another....and a mutual dislike of Norton, who never pulled his weight in Husker

beamish13, Thursday, 15 October 2015 20:43 (eight years ago) link

mould/hart did actually play a few songs together,

Hart played two songs with Mould.

Before Grant Hart joined Bob Mould for two songs at the Quest benefit for Soul Asylum's Karl Mueller last Thursday, the two former singers in Hüsker Dü hadn't shared a stage for 16 years. So what did they play? "Never Talking to You Again" and "Hardly Getting Over It."

If those song choices didn't make things plain enough, there was their body language: Mould looked uncomfortable or unhappy throughout (see below). Hart looked boyish and oblivious. "If me and Bob can get together, that means we can all get together and put Bush out of office, right?" he quipped.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 October 2015 20:51 (eight years ago) link

Ha mould's take on that reunion in his memoir suggests why it'd be another decade before they could agree on a tshirt to sell

da croupier, Thursday, 15 October 2015 20:52 (eight years ago) link

imagine trying to recreate this insanity

(sans drugs)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLI1OOku6Nw

hackshaw, Thursday, 15 October 2015 20:54 (eight years ago) link

If those song choices didn't make things plain enough, there was their body language: Mould looked uncomfortable or unhappy throughout
haha, well, no one was holding a gun to their heads making them get onstage together, right? or was pirner offstage with a sniper's rifle? also, does mould *ever* look happy go lucky onstage?

tylerw, Thursday, 15 October 2015 20:55 (eight years ago) link

http://blog.thecurrent.org/2013/07/grant-hart-on-the-replacements-reunion-and-why-husker-du-wont-get-back-together/

David Campbell: The Local Show fans will kill me if I don’t ask you this. With the recent reunion of Tommy Stinson and Paul Westerberg and the announcement of the first Replacements gigs in 20 years, I was curious if you’ve thought at all about getting the old band back together?

Grant Hart: Well, I really don’t know. I’ve never had the same motives as Tommy and Paul. And I don’t know what they’re gonna prove.

Campbell: They might just have a little fun.

Hart: It must be more interesting than walking Axl’s dog. I mean, hey, if they want to do it, that’s fine. I think Bob and I have had plenty of opportunities to exploit our camaraderie. You know, the last 10 years we’ve been sorting a lot of things out, as far as, ‘You didn’t really say this, did you?’ And it’s like, ‘No, I didn’t really say that! Did you really say that?’ ‘No, that was so and so.’ There comes a time where you have to put your anger away, but that doesn’t come with a guarantee that you’re going to have the same midlife crisis as your audiences are. I might be having my midlife crisis, but I might be having it with a bunch of under-30 musicians that—I pride myself, they’re having a hard time keeping up with me. But the idea of a reunion? I don’t think anybody in Hüsker needs it. It’s not going to enhance our reputation. And I think it says a lot to be the band that doesn’t take the candy from the dish. You’re seeing people that never had a union having a reunion. All these one-and-a-half album bands that—you know, everybody looks themselves in the mirror and wishes like Faust that they could relive their best days, but hell, make new great times.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 October 2015 20:56 (eight years ago) link

If those song choices didn't make things plain enough, there was their body language: Mould looked uncomfortable or unhappy throughout
haha, well, no one was holding a gun to their heads making them get onstage together, right? or was pirner offstage with a sniper's rifle? also, does mould *ever* look happy go lucky onstage?

― tylerw, Thursday, October 15, 2015 3:55 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Dying man's request

chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 15 October 2015 21:05 (eight years ago) link

But yeah Mould never looked he was enjoying himself, until recently, onstage.

chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 15 October 2015 21:07 (eight years ago) link

serious q: do you think these guys could actually work up the appropriate head of steam to play husker du songs again?

The electric frustration fueling the songs I'd want to hear is probably lost.

Also Grant Hart making lots of sense too. I don't want to relive those frustrations very much myself either! Here's to new music.

La Lechera, Thursday, 15 October 2015 22:16 (eight years ago) link

yeah it sounds like he has a healthy attitude about it... and hopefully they can make a little $$$ off of merch/reissues

tylerw, Thursday, 15 October 2015 22:18 (eight years ago) link


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